# Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324 "2008-06-09T14:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2282 "2008-08-08T19:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] So how exactly did you know you weren’t going to die? The cabal could have blocked your power. Seems like a bit of perfect information syndrome going on here. [/QUOTE] Yeah. Except my running theory right now says **Omi No Kami** is scum, so I’m up in the air. I feel so tense about this game, because I think it’s ours to win but we can easily choke it away. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2283 "2008-08-08T19:52:07Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] So how exactly did you know you weren’t going to die? The cabal could have blocked your power. Seems like a bit of perfect information syndrome going on here. [/QUOTE] I wasn’t thinking about that, just about being confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2284 "2008-08-08T19:53:12Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] Yeah. Except my running theory right now says **Omi No Kami** is scum, so I’m up in the air. I feel so tense about this game, because I think it’s ours to win but we can easily choke it away. [/QUOTE] I’m pretty relaxed myself as we have a ton of confirmed or nearly confirmed town members and have forced the scum to go after each other to prove their townliness. Why do you think Omi No Kami is scum? I can understand Pleo giving a Scotsman the secret power, since the Scotsman really doesn’t have anything else to do. I can also understand a Scotsman delaying his use of the power, given little immediate risk of death. What has you suspicious? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2285 "2008-08-08T20:21:10Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] That worked out just about as well as it could have, and seems to confirm my theory of Cookies being a vamp and Naf being Cabal. Anyone have an alternate explanation? [/QUOTE] Um, yeah. Since I am not cabal, I have a couple of alternate explinations. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2286 "2008-08-08T20:34:52Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] Yeah. Except my running theory right now says **Omi No Kami** is scum, so I’m up in the air. I feel so tense about this game, because I think it’s ours to win but we can easily choke it away. [/QUOTE] I’m a bit curious about that myself. If **Zsofia** came up as a Scotsman I could understand the suspicion, but since she wasn’t confirmed during the Dawn post I’m assuming something got screwed up during the night. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2287 "2008-08-08T20:36:43Z")
**Omi** Do you claim to have employed the Town’s secret power last Night? If so, will you please tell us what it is so we may gauge how it affected the Night’s events? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2288 "2008-08-08T20:41:05Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] **Omi** Do you claim to have employed the Town’s secret power last Night? If so, will you please tell us what it is so we may gauge how it affected the Night’s events? [/QUOTE] I would also like to know the answer to this question. I mean, bated breath and everything. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2289 "2008-08-08T20:41:19Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] I’m a bit curious about that myself. If **Zsofia** came up as a Scotsman I could understand the suspicion, but since she wasn’t confirmed during the Dawn post I’m assuming something got screwed up during the night. [/QUOTE] I thought the Cabal blocked Cookies and either Cookies was the vamp or there is no vamp. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2290 "2008-08-08T21:03:24Z")
[QUOTE=Zsofia] I thought the Cabal blocked Cookies and either Cookies was the vamp or there is no vamp. [/QUOTE] Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2291 "2008-08-08T21:04:33Z")
What I know: I was blocked. What I don’t know: Who blocked me, be it the Cabal or someone else. I will need to hear from Koldanar before making a decision about whether or not a mass block is a possibility. Assuming NAF is a Magician, without a kill passing through him, I think he would be blind to a mass-block. The same holds true for the claimed Scotsmans. If there was a mass block, I don’t think they would perceive it, they would just know that they were not targeted for a kill. Any scummy killing roles are not going to be doing the town any favors by stepping up to say that their kills were indeed blocked. Anyone jumping to any conclusions without first hearing from Koldanar is also not doing the town any favors, imho. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2292 "2008-08-08T21:08:49Z")
[QUOTE=MHaye] **Omi** Do you claim to have employed the Town’s secret power last Night? If so, will you please tell us what it is so we may gauge how it affected the Night’s events? [/QUOTE] Fair enough. I was stupid when I said that I can’t protect myself and use my power at the same time, since that’s the big thing I wanted to conceal from scum. In any event, my power was described in the initial PM as follows: > [@Pleo's PM](#): > > You have the Town’s Secret Power. Each Night, you may choose to protect another player. If you do this, you will forgo your own protection. You have the choice between protecting another or yourself each Night. However, if you lose your self-protective power by surviving an attack (including a lynch), you will no longer be able to protect another. Last night I protected MHaye, chosen at random from our list of confirmed Townies. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2293 "2008-08-08T21:12:03Z")
Oops, I forgot to add this: it’s not proof of any kind, but I can at least establish that I was intending to _claim_ to have protective powers from the getgo: turn your attention, if you will, to post #167 in this thread, which was my first in-character post, and read the first letter of each line. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2294 "2008-08-08T21:14:30Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] Oops, I forgot to add this: it’s not proof of any kind, but I can at least establish that I was intending to _claim_ to have protective powers from the getgo: turn your attention, if you will, to post #167 in this thread, which was my first in-character post, and read the first letter of each line. [/QUOTE] So you are basically a doctor? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2295 "2008-08-08T21:16:37Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] So you are basically a doctor? [/QUOTE] Basically nothing, that’s a doctor claim. One shot, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2296 "2008-08-08T21:17:39Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] So you are basically a doctor? [/QUOTE] Functionally I figure so, yea. I only get to successfully self-protect once, which is why I wanted **Zsofia** to be tested first: if she comes back as Scotsman, I’d have to agree that testing me would be the next logical step, but if we’d tested me first, I would’ve lost my protection _and_ any ability to protect others. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2297 "2008-08-08T21:21:34Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] Functionally I figure so, yea. I only get to successfully self-protect once, which is why I wanted **Zsofia** to be tested first: if she comes back as Scotsman, I’d have to agree that testing me would be the next logical step, but if we’d tested me first, I would’ve lost my protection _and_ any ability to protect others. [/QUOTE] Can you share your protections from previous days? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2298 "2008-08-08T21:26:22Z")
That’s the _whole town’s_ secret power? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2299 "2008-08-08T21:27:51Z")
NETA - and why not protect Koldanar? (Jeez, I came so close to accidentally editing - got distracted by actual work.) ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2300 "2008-08-08T21:31:58Z")
My first reaction is to believe the claim. I already kind of believed it anyway, but there has been enough unexplained lack of death that a doctor at work is a distinct possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2301 "2008-08-08T21:52:38Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] Please don’t ruin this image for me. In my head, Cookies will be driving home with a cow, frozen, possibly with icicles hanging from its ears, cut in half at the torso but otherwise seated happily in the back seat, with seat belt, watching over her shoulder as she drives. [/QUOTE] I’d like to think somehow Gary Larson might come across this post…I can’t imagine it’d do anything other than make him smile. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=116)