# Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! \[Game Over\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324 "2008-06-09T14:52:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2422 "2008-08-13T15:34:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop]  
I don’t like having people with nothing to play for alive. Naf, if being truthful, could take out Drainbead in an attempt to throw the game to the cabal. He really would have no reason not to. Plus, there is always the possibility that he is lying and is cabal.

I would feel better if a couple other people jumped on the bandwagon though. Don’t want another scenario like the end of yesterday.  
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Don’t blame you in the least. I mostly just didn’t want to go down toDay without getting that off my chest. I would hate for you all to think I was Cabal for the next Day and then lose because of that fundamental misunderstanding.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2423 "2008-08-13T15:34:16Z")

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Oh, I apologize. It’s not supposed to be absolutely necessary to unvote, but it does make things easier on the mod. To make things clear (while probably actually screwing them up, sorry)

**unvote Omi**  
**vote NAF**

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2424 "2008-08-13T15:35:29Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Don’t blame you in the least. I mostly just didn’t want to go down toDay without getting that off my chest. I would hate for you all to think I was Cabal for the next Day and then lose because of that fundamental misunderstanding.  
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Why do you care if we lose? Stockholm Syndrome?

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2425 "2008-08-13T15:35:59Z")

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On the blocking of Wolves.

The Wolves have to pick a victim and a hitman each Night. In order to block the Wolf kill, the Cabal have to block the player the Werewolves sent out to do the dirty deed.

On voting. The rules say :

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> Each player may have only one active vote. By voting for another player, you are implicitly revoking your vote on the previous player.

**Zsofia** is now (if I read this aright) voting for NAF (even without the unvote).

I find I am in agreement with Hawkeyeop regarding the risks f a loose cannon.

Unvote **Zsofia**  
Vote **NAF1138**.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2426 "2008-08-13T15:36:28Z")

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Also, I am going to miss 99% of the next Day. I didn’t really expect to live this long anyway, the only reason I even tried is because I have what basically amounts to a survivor role. When I found out that Dots zombies died with her I realized I had 0 chance of winning. The only reason I tried so hard to survive yesterDay was because I was under the mistaken impression that the zombies stayed alive after Dot died, making me think I still had the chance to win this.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2427 "2008-08-13T15:46:13Z")

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[QUOTE=MHaye]  
On the blocking of Wolves.

The Wolves have to pick a victim and a hitman each Night. In order to block the Wolf kill, the Cabal have to block the player the Werewolves sent out to do the dirty deed.  
[/QUOTE]

Ah, okay. I’d forgotten that the Wolves could change the actual killer.

And while I’m here:  
Vote **NAF1138**.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2428 "2008-08-13T15:46:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
Why do you care if we lose? Stockholm Syndrome?  
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What can I say, I love Big Brother.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2429 "2008-08-13T15:48:19Z")

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**unvote zsofia**  
**vote NAF**

Good to know my gut feeling was correct after all. Now there’s no downside at all to going after **NAF**.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2430 "2008-08-13T15:50:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Drain Bead]  
**unvote zsofia**  
**vote NAF**

Good to know my gut feeling was correct after all. Now there’s no downside at all to going after **NAF**.  
[/QUOTE]

Hey, you are just lucky that story gave a good reason to lynch me. I was planing on killing you toNight.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2431 "2008-08-13T15:51:32Z")

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New strategy. Everyone accuse Drainbead of being a cabalist until she has a Naf like reaction and claims Wolf. Let’s see Zsofia must be a vampire, and Cookies is a pony.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2432 "2008-08-13T15:53:14Z")

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I wanna be a pony! How’s come Cookies gets to be a pony and I don’t get to be a pony?!

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2433 "2008-08-13T15:54:51Z")

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Thanks for the list, **NAF**.

Apart from the obvious discrepancy that **Dotchan** was killed on Night 3, it raises a spectre of a fourth killer on Night 1, because if the second Vampire didn’t kill **Santo Rugger**. who did?

I agree that on the basis of this list, you’ve been a bit unlucky though.

[oog]

Good luck with that interview **Zsofia**.

[/oog]

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2434 "2008-08-13T16:10:41Z")

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[QUOTE=MHaye]  
Thanks for the list, **NAF**.

Apart from the obvious discrepancy that **Dotchan** was killed on Night 3, it raises a spectre of a fourth killer on Night 1, because if the second Vampire didn’t kill **Santo Rugger**. who did?

I agree that on the basis of this list, you’ve been a bit unlucky though.

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It was a long time ago and I really wasn’t paying too much attention to the game right then. I don’t have those PMs anymore since I needed to free up some PM space. Shadow was killed Night 4 then?

As for who made the other Kill Night 1, I had been really hoping that there was a third vamp out there, but that seems to be highly unlikely at this point in time.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2435 "2008-08-13T16:25:51Z")

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Ok then. Here’s a nice blue vote that I wrapped myself, as a wedding present, NAF. 😉

**Unvote Zsofia**  
Vote NAF\*\*

I’m fine with targeting Zsofia tonight. Nothing gets the interview blood pumping like fear for your life.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2436 "2008-08-13T16:32:44Z")

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[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]  
Ok then. Here’s a nice blue vote that I wrapped myself, as a wedding present, NAF. 😉

**Unvote Zsofia**  
Vote NAF\*\*

I’m fine with targeting Zsofia tonight. Nothing gets the interview blood pumping like fear for your life.  
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She doesn’t have anything to fear, you can’t kill.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2437 "2008-08-13T16:33:33Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
It was a long time ago and I really wasn’t paying too much attention to the game right then. I don’t have those PMs anymore since I needed to free up some PM space. Shadow was killed Night 4 then?

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Heh. I completely understand that. My pms have been at a constant state of 49 for a while. Part of the reason I never revealed the list of everyone I checked is I deleted some of that information. I have/remember most of it, but I was concerned if I made a mistake, or claimed ignorance, I wouldn’t be able to explain my way out of it.

Being a vampire is a nice way to spend one’s final bachelor days. Now you get to focus on the important stuff. Like Cake!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2438 "2008-08-13T16:38:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop]  
Heh. I completely understand that. My pms have been at a constant state of 49 for a while. Part of the reason I never revealed the list of everyone I checked is I deleted some of that information. I have/remember most of it, but I was concerned if I made a mistake, or claimed ignorance, I wouldn’t be able to explain my way out of it.

Being a vampire is a nice way to spend one’s final bachelor days. Now you get to focus on the important stuff. Like Cake!  
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And it’s gonna be a damn good cake too! 😃

I am especially glad of that because it is the only bit of food I can be certain that I will get to eat. The cake cutting ceremony is a big tradition, so I know I will get at least one bite of cake.

Also, one of my fiance’s clients gave her a $500 bottle of champagne as a wedding gift yesterday…so I am looking forward to that too.

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**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2439 "2008-08-13T17:07:02Z")

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Hmm. I’m still kinda suspicious of Zsofia, but NAF appears to be a much surer thing, so:

**Unvote Zsofia  
Vote NAF**

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2440 "2008-08-13T17:29:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Omi no Kami]  
Hmm. I’m still kinda suspicious of Zsofia, but NAF appears to be a much surer thing, so:

**Unvote Zsofia  
Vote NAF**  
[/QUOTE]

I am, I am a totally sure thing. Vampire dontca know.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/2441 "2008-08-13T17:31:16Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
I am, I am a totally sure thing. Vampire dontca know.  
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Why does this post worry me so much? What’s the worst thing NAF could be?

Werewolf selling out the town, that’s what.

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