# Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324 "2008-06-09T14:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Redwing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Redwing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redwing)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/921 "2008-06-25T20:09:42Z")
[QUOTE=Nanook of the North Shore] That reminds me Redwing, did anyone miss the must vote requirement? I can’t really tell from that vote breakdown. [/QUOTE] Everyone appears to have voted during the Day to me. The five people had no vote active at the end: **Hawkeyeop, Koldanar, DiggitCamara, NanookoftheNorthShore, and, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/922 "2008-06-25T21:26:37Z")
[QUOTE=Nanook of the North Shore] Which is also a google doc, like the rules, that I can’t access from work. _sigh_ So no one will be modkilled. I can’t decide if that’s good or bad. I guess it depends on the faction of the people in danger of being killed. [/QUOTE] You sound disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/923 "2008-06-25T21:49:54Z")
Interesting finish to day one. I want to sum up the final votes after I claimed coroner. #856 - Pedescribe votes Darth Sensitive. #870 - Peekercpa votes Darth Sensitive. Ties he and I with 3 a piece #880 - I vote for Darth Sensitive. This puts D.S. up one vote. #881 - Redwing Unvotes me. This puts D.S. up two votes. #884 - funny thing happens. CatInASuit votes for Oredigger. Puts Oredigger to 3 votes - D.S. at 4 #894 - Redwing votes Darth Sensitive. Putting him up by two. O.D. 3 - D.S.5 #897 - @ 11:57, Natural Blonde Chap also votes for Oredigger. Brings the votes to O.D. 4 - D.S. 5 Had Redwing not voted, we would be in a tie. #899, #901 - MHaye and Storyteller both vote Darth Sensitive and put him in the clear lead. So, here’s the kicker. Darth Sensitive was **a Cabalist**. There’s a good chance that two other people know this for a fact[sup]\*[/sup]. These two people did not want to see him swing, but probably wouldn’t vote for me as it would be a blantant scum tell after I had claimed. But, the only chance the rest of the Cabal had was to get another horse in the lead before Darth Sensitive swung. It looks to me like CIAS and NBC were trying to do just that. Maybe I’m full of crap. Maybe I’m stretching. But, if there’s a person out there that can find things out about people at night. I think one of these two would be worth looking into. More speculating, but CIAS’s witch claim could have been brilliant had his fellow cabalists backed him up claiming to be other witches. I was going to sit on this at least until moRning, but I think it would be more helpful to get it out now. Lucky for me the Cabal can’t night kill (right?!?). [sup]\*[/sup]I mean that there’s a good chance that the number is 2. there could be more or fewer than that. It just seems like 3 is the accepted number of starting cabalists. Oh, and I almost forgot with all my analysis. Whoo-Fucking-Hoo!!! We got one!! Drinks on me! ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/924 "2008-06-25T21:54:50Z")
Oh and it really sucks for you skeptics that still think I may be false claiming. There’s likely only three people still alive that know for a fact that I am who I say I am. Me - and the other two cabalists. And I’m the only one who gets to celebrate! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/925 "2008-06-25T22:00:12Z")
This being my first Conspiracy game, I have to say that it is decidedly odd to know someone has been lynched, but not know whether to celebrate or sulk, and not have any dawning realizations or hunches poping up based on a deathly divulging. For some reason I’m seeing this as a Broadway Musical dance number, with everyone constantly changing partners, and constantly oscillating between hi-5ing each other and then glaring at each other dubiously. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/926 "2008-06-25T22:02:26Z")
Wow. Lynch the lurker actually worked. I think this is the first time I’ve seen it not lynch Town! Awesome! (I was away getting my first ultrasound for the end of the Day–I’ll be posting the pictures in MPSIMS soon, for those of you who are interested…) ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/927 "2008-06-25T22:06:19Z")
brewha: You skipped my unvote after your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/928 "2008-06-25T22:13:35Z")
[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies] brewha: You skipped my unvote after your claim. [/QUOTE] He probably glossed over it because of how reluctant you sounded. 😉 As for drinks, how do about 15 frozen margaritas right before dinner sound? 😃 Speaking of, thanks for the birthday wishes,\*\* Hockey\*\*!!! ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/929 "2008-06-25T22:16:04Z")
Oh, and **brewha** , I agree with your assessment of **NBC**. And can somebody remind me why **sach** sitting on his info so long ended up being pro-town in that game? I can’t seem to recall, but I seem to remember it being devastating to scum. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/930 "2008-06-25T22:16:16Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] As for drinks, how do about 15 frozen margaritas right before dinner sound? 😃 [/QUOTE] Sounds like you didn’t learn anything in Vegas! If you are going to drink the margaritas at least remember to stir them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/931 "2008-06-25T22:34:08Z")
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey] You sound disappointed. [/QUOTE] Disappointed in the fact that I can’t access google docs from work, which let me point out makes no freakin sense to me at all. Disappointed about no mod kill? That depends entirely on who got modkilled. I’m all for wolves, undead and Cabalists getting modkilled. Townies? Not so much. > [@brewha](#): > > More speculating, but CIAS’s witch claim could have been brilliant had his fellow cabalists backed him up claiming to be other witches. CIAS claimed detective, not Witch. I’m the Witch, not him. > [@](#): > > Lucky for me the Cabal can’t night kill (right?!?). Not according to the published rules they can’t. They may or may not have a special NK that isn’t listed. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/932 "2008-06-25T22:38:11Z")
Bah - I got hit with a nasty case of ‘the real lives’. Ah well. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/933 "2008-06-25T22:46:39Z")
**Cookies** , I only highlighted the posts that supported my theory that D.S.'s fellow cabalist’s would try and save him from the the noose. You did unvote me, but I don’t think I was in much danger by that point. **Santo** , I read through through conspir. 1 - specifically to see what Sach did with his role. He didn’t really sit on the info he was given. It was more that he only divulged info that would be helpful for the town. I divulged all that I know right away because I feel that it will help the town more than it will help scum. And, I may not make it through the night. If my bit of info eliminates the Cabal, the town has a real chance of winning this one. Dammit **Nanook**! My theory was so neat and clean if CIAS had claimed witch. Of course, you are correct. My mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/934 "2008-06-25T22:48:53Z")
By the way, I just wanted to pop in and address the complaints about my voicing “vague suspicions” without naming a target. The reason I didn’t name anyone when I first posted that was because I hadn’t finished reading through the backlog, and now that I have I’m convinced there’s nothing there: my main suspicion was going to be leveled at **Santo Rugger** , because I thought he was being unusually defensive in post 189, but now that I’ve read the rest of the thread and failed to see a consistent pattern I’m not convinced I was on to anything. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/935 "2008-06-25T22:54:54Z")
[QUOTE=Darth Sensitive] Bah - I got hit with a nasty case of ‘the real lives’. Ah well. [/QUOTE] Sorry to hear that…that shit’ll kill ya… ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/936 "2008-06-25T23:10:11Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] As for drinks, how do about 15 frozen margaritas right before dinner sound? 😃 [/QUOTE] Sounds about right. Don’t know what the rest of you will be drinking, however. Sparkling water for the designated drivers. Me, I am celebrating. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/937 "2008-06-25T23:28:17Z")
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami] By the way, I just wanted to pop in and address the complaints about my voicing “vague suspicions” without naming a target. The reason I didn’t name anyone when I first posted that was because I hadn’t finished reading through the backlog, and now that I have I’m convinced there’s nothing there: my main suspicion was going to be leveled at **Santo Rugger** , because I thought he was being unusually defensive in post 189, but now that I’ve read the rest of the thread and failed to see a consistent pattern I’m not convinced I was on to anything. [/QUOTE] You weren’t, but for those wondering the context of 189, it was when **Cookies** called out **Dio** for his speculation that there may not be Witches. I didn’t (and don’t) agree with said speculation, but I didn’t think he was out of line by saying it. _casually stirs margarita while giving **Hockey** a forced dirty look_ ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/938 "2008-06-25T23:28:31Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] Oh and it really sucks for you skeptics that still think I may be false claiming. There’s likely only three people still alive that know for a fact that I am who I say I am. Me - and the other two cabalists. And I’m the only one who gets to celebrate! 🙂 [/QUOTE] Don’t color me a “skeptic” but… We target three important town roles. Then we move to basically, in my opinion, a lynch the lurker strategy that had been so vilified (if this is too strong then insert a softer adjective that still denotes disagreement) earlier. Just so happens that person has a vote on himself and in the end is a freaking scum. Major trippy. I think that I am having one of those moments where the High School health teachers warned you about the danger of acid kicking back in years after first ingestion. [Homer Simpson beer voice]Mmmm Microdot[/Homer Simpson beer voice] ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/939 "2008-06-26T01:18:16Z")
[pessimist mode] I don’t mean to rain on the parade, and I tend to believe **brewha** is what he says he is, but I won’t be celebrating jack until **Pleo** reveals **Darth’s** Side toMorrow. And while I can’t fault anyone for enjoying a likely scum lynch, I would caution everyone about drawing any final conclusions until we really know what **Darth** is. Or was, as the case may be. 😃 [/pessimist mode] ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/940 "2008-06-26T01:20:21Z")
One more thing: if **Darth** really is Cabal, his counterparts must be really annoyed right now. 🆒 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=48)