# Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! \[Game Over\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324 "2008-06-09T14:52:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/101 "2008-06-12T19:16:24Z")

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[QUOTE=pedescribe]  
Barkeep! Something non-alcholoic for me. As a rule, I don’t impair myself when horrible beasties and shadowy evil are creeping about.  
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Really? I would think that’s the optimal time.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/102 "2008-06-12T19:16:29Z")

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Woohoo, I am confirmed!

Pass me a drink please barkeep, something with Whiskey in it. Rotgut out of a mason jar is prefered.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/103 "2008-06-12T19:17:54Z")

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[QUOTE=dotchan]  
Confirminated.

Pleonast, are we allowed to strategize on Night Zero?  
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> [@The Mod](#):
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> It is now Night Zero. No powers may be used, but roles with secret communications may talk on their respective boards. This thread is open to any talk you may wish, including strategy. No votes, yet.

I see you’re not interested in the drinky-antics. It’s Day One soon… we’ve seen this set-up before. Town wins through information… but a full reveal would skunk us, because the scum, together, outpower us. So we play cautiously the first Day, play the odds that we’ll land scum, and hope for some crossfire Night One. Right?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/104 "2008-06-12T19:22:46Z")

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_Where is the official schedule posted? Did we decide how we are going to work around the 4th?_

I’ve put the schedule in the player/voter page:

All Dawns and Dusks at noon Pacific Time.

Night Zero: Thu Jun 12 - Tue Jun 17  
Day One: Tue Jun 17 - Wed Jun 25  
Night One: Wed Jun 25 - Mon Jun 30  
Day Two: Mon Jun 30 - Wed Jul 9  
Night Two: Wed Jul 9 - Fri Jul 11  
Day Three: Fri Jul 11 - Wed Jul 16  
Night Three: Wed Jul 16 - Fri Jul 18  
Day Four: Fri Jul 18 - Wed Jul 23  
Night Four: Wed Jul 23 - Fri Jul 25  
etc…  
_Are we allowed to strategize on Night Zero?_

Yes, and every Night. Night Zero is special because no powers may be used. Voting is only during the Day.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/105 "2008-06-12T19:30:11Z")

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PM confirmed. And I just want to say…

I’m Number One! I’m Number One!

Which is better than Number 2… 😛

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/106 "2008-06-12T19:32:49Z")

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Well in that case…we shouldn’t be gunning for the cabal too early. Last game, I know, they all died early, but we can’t count on htat this time. But even if they survive, the single roleblock is puny enough that it doesn’t really count for much, and as long as we can keep multiple witches alive, we can wait on them. We definitly should try to kill the vampires first (and since pleonast was talking about extra blood I suspect that there are multiple vampires) because the extra kill is particularly problematic and we can’t count on the werewolves to kill them for us. The necromancer can wait for a few days (if we find him early) but I think by day four he should definitley be a primary target. Obviously our default target should be the wolves. Not sure how many to expect…but they’ve definitley got the most people (why? because the cabal is almost certianly three in number and each individual undead is more powerful than each individual wolf) so they will probably be around the longest. Remember, the detective is only good against the wolves, so … yeah. More may be forthcoming.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/107 "2008-06-12T19:34:15Z")

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Note–that was partially cribbed from **storyteller** in the off board game.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/108 "2008-06-12T19:35:03Z")

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I just realized that we have almost two weeks to decide who to lynch first. Lynch the lurker might be the best option in that case. I mean seriously if you can’t find time in two weeks you have to be actively trying.

Damn, I forgot to order a drink I’m going to go with one of the passion coladas that I was reading about of in the drink recommendation thread.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/109 "2008-06-12T19:39:45Z")

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Got my role PM, confirming now. This is going to be quite the long wait.

I’ll take a glass of milk. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Pollux\_Oil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@Pollux\_Oil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pollux_Oil)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/110 "2008-06-12T19:47:16Z")

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Confirming and all that jazz! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/111 "2008-06-12T21:56:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Drain Bead]  
Got my role PM, confirming now. This is going to be quite the long wait.

I’ll take a glass of milk. Thanks.  
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**RoOsh**! Order up! 😛

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/112 "2008-06-12T21:57:19Z")

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Finally! Good thing I cut-and-pasted my post before the boards cut out.

> [@pedescribe](#):
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> It looks like all of the roles could fit into the game while leaving room for a sizeable freemason group, wolf group, witch group, cabal group. But I’m not sure that that’s going to happen. Why? Well, it seems in keeping with Pleonast’s character. Other than that, I don’t really have a reason. So…we should be wary of that. OTOH, there are some roles that will almost certianly be there:  
> The Vicar–because without him, the undead would be absolutly nuts.  
> The Coroner–because withholding death information is so significant, there needs to be some sort of balancing mechanic  
> The Freemasons–because every town needs vanillas, and these are the closest to that.  
> Other than that, I’m not sure.  
> Note that I could be completly wrong about all that, though.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/113 "2008-06-12T22:12:36Z")

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Confirmed. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/114 "2008-06-12T22:16:59Z")

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[QUOTE=pedescribe]  
Well in that case…we shouldn’t be gunning for the cabal too early. Last game, I know, they all died early, but we can’t count on htat this time. But even if they survive, the single roleblock is puny enough that it doesn’t really count for much, and as long as we can keep multiple witches alive, we can wait on them. We definitly should try to kill the vampires first (and since pleonast was talking about extra blood I suspect that there are multiple vampires) because the extra kill is particularly problematic and we can’t count on the werewolves to kill them for us. The necromancer can wait for a few days (if we find him early) but I think by day four he should definitley be a primary target. Obviously our default target should be the wolves. Not sure how many to expect…but they’ve definitley got the most people (why? because the cabal is almost certianly three in number and each individual undead is more powerful than each individual wolf) so they will probably be around the longest. Remember, the detective is only good against the wolves, so … yeah. More may be forthcoming.  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes, good plan, we’ll do it in this order. Now if we can only find out who’s what, we’ll be in good shape!

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/115 "2008-06-12T22:27:22Z")

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[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]  
Confirmed. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

Hey, just noticed that you are in this game Cookies. What up? How you been?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/116 "2008-06-12T22:30:14Z")

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> [@Santo Rugger](#):
>
> Yes, good plan, we’ll do it in this order. Now if we can only find out who’s what, we’ll be in good shape!

Heh, yeah, that’s the difficult part.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/117 "2008-06-12T22:31:40Z")

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Good, busy, crazy…

I’m trying a new approach to time-management this time around (like actually trying to do time-management). It has to be possible, since some of you somehow juggle jobs/school/life/spouses/children/chainsaws and multiple games simultaneously.

How have y’all been?

I have not kept up with a single Mafia-related thing since the post-game Batman celebrations.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/118 "2008-06-12T22:35:47Z")

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[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]  
Good, busy, crazy…

I’m trying a new approach to time-management this time around (like actually trying to do time-management). It has to be possible, since some of you somehow juggle jobs/school/life/spouses/children/chainsaws and multiple games simultaneously.

How have y’all been?

I have not kept up with a single Mafia-related thing since the post-game Batman celebrations.  
[/QUOTE]

Hey Cookies, great to see you back. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/119 "2008-06-12T22:45:56Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Hey, just noticed that you are in this game Cookies. What up? How you been?  
[/QUOTE]  
I kinda feel like we’re in a bar and we all got here at the same time and we keep looking up and realizing people we recognize. This game is flippin’ huge, I have a feeling we (I) am going to be doing a lot of that this game.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/120 "2008-06-12T22:48:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Santo Rugger]  
Yes, good plan, we’ll do it in this order. Now if we can only find out who’s what, we’ll be in good shape!  
[/QUOTE]

Well if they would all just fess it would work swimmingly.

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