# Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324 "2008-06-09T14:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1582 "2008-07-16T13:15:32Z")
[QUOTE=CatInASuit] As for you **ShadowFacts** : In your second post, you said that you always consider everything I say as \*“Why would a Scum post this?”. \* But your previous post is _“Hopefully, CatInASuit can come through with the identity of Roosh’s killer tonight”._ If you consider me Scum, and everything I say as being scummy, why would you be expecting an investigation result from me? Or are you just hoping that I might be the Detective? [/QUOTE] I already answered this in post 1572. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1583 "2008-07-16T13:20:25Z")
[QUOTE=DiggitCamara] Well, if **CiAS** tells us toDay he got a “Vampire” reading, I’ll definitely be voting for him. I mean, what are the odds that he chooses the Vampire kill two Days in a row? Especially if one current presumed Vampire supposedly forgot to submit his kill toNight? And said presumed Vampire tells us he suspects another presumed Vampire was lynched yesterDay? [/QUOTE] He won’t be “choosing” a Vampire kill. \*\*Roosh \*\* was the only one who died, so \*\*Roosh’s \*\* is the only death to investigate. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1584 "2008-07-16T15:48:23Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] I already answered this in post 1572. [/QUOTE] Perhaps you could answer the question I asked you in post 1561 > [@CatInASuit](#): > > Perhaps you would like to comment on my thoughts above about why Squid has claimed the way he has. My thoughts are in post 1556. I guess it must have been an oversight 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1585 "2008-07-16T16:28:13Z")
[QUOTE=CatInASuit] Perhaps you could answer the question I asked you in post 1561 My thoughts are in post 1556. I guess it must have been an oversight 😛 [/QUOTE] Touche 🙂 I am happy to answer: I think that \*\*Boozahol Squid \*\*is extremely likely to be Scum (as opposed to a Warlock sacrificing himself to expose **Nanook** , as some have suggested). As such, I don’t believe a word he says. So if he says he’s a Vampire, I bet he’s not, and is attempting to sow confusion and chaos. (A method learned, no doubt, from a certain well-dressed gentleman 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1586 "2008-07-16T16:48:00Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] As such, I don’t believe a word he says. So if he says he’s a Vampire, I bet he’s not, and is attempting to sow confusion and chaos. (A method learned, no doubt, from a certain well-dressed gentleman 😃 ) [/QUOTE] I’m hurt, Shadow. I might be scum, but I’d never sink so low as to be a student of **CiaS**. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1587 "2008-07-16T16:54:41Z")
[QUOTE=Boozahol Squid, P.I.] I’m hurt, Shadow. I might be scum, but I’d never sink so low as to be a student of **CiaS**. 😃 [/QUOTE] Sorry. I should have known that would touch a nerve 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1588 "2008-07-16T18:31:29Z")
[QUOTE=CatInASuit] So in other words you believe \*\*Squid’s \*\* claim. And based on that claim you are going to vote for me tomorrow if I don’t return a Wolf. Even though we don’t get presumed Vampire \*\*Squid’s \*\* faction until Dusk so you cannot say whether he was lying or not. :dubious: What are the odds that I return Vampire two Days in a row. Depends on whether the Wolves decided to Night Kill or stack the deck against me. [/QUOTE] Nope. What I am saying is that there are several pieces of evidence that indicate that you should get a reading. I’m not giving any definite results as to the veracity of those pieces of evidence (which I tried to indicate by adding the word “presumed” to my description of said pieces of evidence). Things being as they are, I feel that a reading of “Vampire”… again… would diminish your credibility enough for me to vote for you. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1589 "2008-07-16T19:09:56Z")
**Final Day Three Vote Count** Twenty-Three Votes **Boozahol Squid, P.I.** ++Nanook of the North Shore (1467) ++HockeyMonkey (1469) ++ShadowFacts (1470) ++peekercpa (1471) ++DiggitCamara (1473) ++Boozahol Squid, P.I. (1474) ++Omi no Kami (1476) ++DrainBead (1477) ++Oredigger77 (1480) ++One and Only Wanderers (1481) ++Zsofia (1488) ++Hal Briston (1494) ++Hawkeyeop (1495) ++Koldanar (1503) ++ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (1506) ++dotchan (1507) ++Pollux Oil (1512) ++CatInASuit (1519)++MHaye (1529) ++storyteller0910 (1532) ++NAF1138 (1535) ++cckerberos (1549) ++fluiddruid (1576) Zero Votes **Hal Briston** ++peekercpa (1453) --peekercpa (1471) **Omi no Kami** ++Hal Briston (1423) --Hal Briston (1494) **ShadowFacts** ++fluiddruid (1560) --fluiddruid (1576) Players Who Haven’t Voted and Are Mod-Killed: Redwing ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1590 "2008-07-16T19:15:27Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Players Who Haven’t Voted and Are Mod-Killed: Redwing [/QUOTE] Serves the bastard right. Almost had the unanimous lynch… ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1591 "2008-07-16T19:17:53Z")
The Day ended with another disciplined mob. There was some mild confusion as the condemned craftily switched names, but the proper paperwork was completed and the execution carried out. **Boozahol Squid, P.I.** is lynched. As justice was completed, the town bell tolled. What could be the meaning of this? Apparently, the stress and despair of living in this accursed village was too much for some, for hanging from bell cord is **Redwing** , hung by his own hand. But as for “good” news, more paper shuffling has discovered information about the previously deceased: **pedescribe** was a member of a Wolf pack. **CoG888** was a loyal citizen of the Town. **Darth Sensitive** was definitively a Cabalist. Night Three has begun. It will end at the usual time on Friday, July 18. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1592 "2008-07-16T19:30:56Z")
**Day 1 Final Vote Count:** Darth Sensitive(7): **Darth Sensitive** , **pedescribe** , peekercpa, **brewha** , **Redwing** , MHaye, storyteller0910 Oredigger77(4): Drain Bead, ShadowFacts, CatInASuit, **NaturalBlondChap** Nanook of the North Shore(2): One and Only Wanderers, Omi no Kami Pollux Oil(2): Oredigger77, **Diomedes** NaturalBlondChap(2): Hockey Monkey, fluiddruid brewha(2): Zsofia, Hal Briston storyteller0910(1): dotchan dotchan(1): **RoOsh** Hawkeyeop(1): cckerberos cckerberos(1): \*\*Santo Rugger \*\* Omi no Kami(1): Pollux Oil pedescribe(1): NAF1138 Santo Rugger(1): **CoG888** No Outstanding Vote: Hawkeyeop, Koldanar, DiggitCamara, NanookoftheNorthShore, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies **Day 2 Final Vote Count:** pedescribe(25): **Diomedes** , cckerberos, Omi no Kami,One and Only Wanderers, **RoOsh** , Drain Bead, CatInASuit, Hawkeyeop, ShadowFacts, storyteller0910, DiggitCamara, Zsofia, NAF1138, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, MHaye, HalBriston, Hockey Monkey, fluiddruid, Pollux Oil, Koldanar, dotchan, Oredigger77, Nanook of the North Shore, peekercpa, **Redwing**. Koldanar(1): **pedescribe** Mod-Killed: **CoG888** **Day 3 Final Vote Count:** Boozahol Squid, P.I. (23) Nanook of the North Shore, HockeyMonkey, ShadowFacts, peekercpa, DiggitCamara, **Boozahol Squid, P.I.,** Omi no Kami, DrainBead, Oredigger77, One and Only Wanderers, Zsofia, Hal Briston, Hawkeyeop, Koldanar, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, dotchan, Pollux Oil, CatInASuit, MHaye, storyteller0910, NAF1138, cckerberos, fluiddruid Mod-Killed: **Redwing** **Town Wolf Cabal Undead Dead** Dawn Day 4 Role: brewha, Santo Rugger, NBC Faction: Roosh Dusk Day 4 Role: pedescribe, CoG88 Faction: Boozahol Squid, P.I., Redwing Dawn Day 5 Role: Roosh Dusk Day 5 Role: Boozahol Squid, P.I., Redwing ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1593 "2008-07-16T19:37:19Z")
So, we know now Boozy’s assumption about pede was off completely. Can this tell us anything about him, and in turn, Nanook? ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1594 "2008-07-16T19:39:08Z")
NETA : Cat, your results? ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1595 "2008-07-16T19:40:10Z")
Curiouser and curiouser, the pieces start to fall into place. Looks like we have a full house playing the game. All sides present and accounted for. Pleonast owes me a beer and someone has a lot of explaining to do. So **DiggitCamara,** care to explain your nightly activity concerning **Roosh**? Killing him is such poor form. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1596 "2008-07-16T19:50:57Z")
It is like sensory overload. Digesting the new info… ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1597 "2008-07-16T20:05:24Z")
[QUOTE=CatInASuit] So **DiggitCamara,** care to explain your nightly activity concerning **Roosh**? Killing him is such poor form. :dubious: [/QUOTE] Just to be clear - you are stating that your investigation revealed that **Diggit** killed **Roosh?** ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1598 "2008-07-16T20:12:02Z")
From **Pleo’s** list: LIVING: 1. ShadowFacts 2. Koldanar 3. cckerberos 4. Hal Briston 5. MHaye 6. storyteller0910 - **Claimed Magician** 7. Zsofia 8. Oredigger77 9. Drain Bead 10. CatInASuit - **Claimed Detective** 11. peekercpa 12. DiggitCamara - ACCUSED OF MURDEROUS BEHAVIOR WRT ROOSH 13. Nanook of the North Shore - **claimed Witch** 14. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 15. dotchan 16. Hockey Monkey 17. NAF1138 18. fluiddruid 19. One and Only Wanderers 20. Hawkeyeop 21. Pollux Oil 22. Omi no Kami DEAD, ROLE KNOWN 21. brewha - Killed Night One - Town (Very Probably Coroner) 25. Darth Sensitive - Lynched Day One - Cabal - Cabalist DEAD, ROLE UNKNOWN 03. pedescribe - Lynched Day Two - Wolf 05. CoG888 - Suicided Day Two - Town 24. NaturalBlondChap - Killed Night One - Cabal 29. Santo Rugger - Killed Night One - Town DEAD, ALIGNMENT UNKNOWN 13. RoOsh - Killed Night Two 15. Boozahol Squid, P.I. (formerly Diomedes) - Lynched Day Three 26. Redwing - Suicided Day Three Am I missing anything? ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1599 "2008-07-16T20:43:28Z")
Interesting. Things are certainly looking good for us. I can’t wait to hear what Diggit has to say about the discovery CIAS made. Especially when you consider how gung ho he was about voting for CIAS regarding a potential vamp kill result. For the record, my major work project has now ended. I will have a lot more time to play starting now. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1600 "2008-07-16T20:58:06Z")
Man, these Days and Nights getting shorter is really screwing me up I thought we had untill tomorrow. On the plus side we have gone 2/2 on the lynches we know about. I am curious about CAIS getting a result when it was needed. If the wolves had avoided a kill last night they could have pushed for a lynch based on two vamp discoveries. But the only way to be certain is to lynch an see. I am starting to worry about all of the unaminity we are having in the voting once the lynchees stop comming so easily we are going to have a hard time doing vote analysis and after a busy first Day and Night our discussion has slowed because there has been little to talk about, but that will hurt doing a post analysis. Oh well, I’m floating the river this weekend so I’ll take a Fat Tire Float. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1601 "2008-07-16T21:49:35Z")
Speaking of post analysis, the [vote chart](http://www.sirblah.com/misc/conspiracy2.htm) is up to date. I agree, **Oredigger**. While it’s great that we get good leads (assuming that the info we’re being given is accurate), the “obvious lynch” factor can deaden things. It’s a side effect of having a set schedule. I know there are definite advantages and disadvantages to each timetable setup, but I prefer the “day ends when someone gets _x_% of votes” method. Hell, we’d likely be on Day Five if we were using that plan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=79) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=81)