# Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324 "2008-06-09T14:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1922 "2008-07-30T19:11:27Z")
[QUOTE=Oredigger77] I’m not sure there is a reason to assume the freemason, wolf or cabal count is 3, 8 or 5. Those 16 players could be scrambled a couple of different way to still get to 31. This is still assuming that every role is only there once and where it would be equally likely that some of the lower profile roles like Scotsman could easily be a multiple with out throwing out game balance. [/QUOTE] Of course. It is _possible_ that almost any configuration of players is the case. **mhaye’s** proposed alternative - one fewer Wolf, one extra Freemason - is a possibility. But it is of interest to me to note that what would ostensibly be the most simple setup - all the roles in the game - still fits cleanly with what we already know. See, thing is, I’m not so sure that multiple Scotsman wouldn’t throw off the game balance a bit. Every role being in the game once makes for a much easier balance, and since we’re all always anxious to overthink every situation giving us the obvious setup would be the surest way to keep us guessing. Just saying. * * * Meanwhile, **Oredigger** , I surely hope you’ve got your thinking cap on tight here. We need you toNight. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1923 "2008-07-30T19:12:29Z")
Aw crap, I lost track of time. Sorry about the Night-time semi-strategerizing. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1924 "2008-07-30T19:19:32Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] Aw crap, I lost track of time. Sorry about the Night-time semi-strategerizing. [/QUOTE] Why are you sorry? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1925 "2008-07-30T19:20:58Z")
Because we’ve all been progressively beaten to conditioned submission by the Mods? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1926 "2008-07-30T19:29:19Z")
We’re allowed to strategize at Night just not allowed to vote. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1927 "2008-07-30T19:36:41Z")
Gah. I forgot the rules wrt Night-time strategizing. Watching the off-board game, even from a distance, tends to blur the mind. I withdraw my apology. Humph. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1928 "2008-07-30T19:36:53Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] \ Man, I love all these “you’re playing right into our hands” posts. I’m absolutely sure getting yourself whacked was part of the master plan all along, but we’ll muddle through somehow. [/QUOTE] It is Pleo’s fault. He outed everyone as having a power role at the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1929 "2008-07-30T20:06:11Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] I’m absolutely sure getting yourself whacked was part of the master plan all along, [/QUOTE] 'Course not…but when life hands you lemons, cut open a townie and squeeze the juice into his wounds. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1930 "2008-07-30T20:15:16Z")
Ok…a few things I’d like to bring up. First, Assuming all investigations by myself and MHaye are valid, we have 3 cabalists (Darth, NBC, Nanook), 3 wolves (Fluid, pede, and hal) and two undead (dotchan, Boozy) out of it. Assuming story has the numbers close or exact, we have up to 2 cabalists, right around 5 wolves, and one more undead to go. Would it be worth targeting (or trying to) that last undead, in order to stop a night kill? Our remaining 0-2 cabalists might just have that power Nanook mentioned, which should only be a one shot deal. And with wolves, a wolf dead is great, but eliminating one now won’t help us deal with the bodies tomorrow. The questions are first, can we really target undead? Should we, or concentrate on outing anyone else? And second, should we prioritize a specific faction still? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1931 "2008-07-30T21:53:40Z")
I think our best bet is to look at our options after the next round of investigations. In theory we’ll have two choices in which case we’ll need to decide who the bigger threat is. It is also possible we’ll only have one choice in which case it’ll end up another Day like toDay with an auto-lynch… ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1932 "2008-07-30T23:34:08Z")
Am I missing a Night post? Was the Day extended due to the outage? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1933 "2008-07-30T23:35:55Z")
The Day ended on schedule, but the Dusk post is being delayed due to Pleo’s flight itinerary. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1934 "2008-07-31T06:58:30Z")
[QUOTE=Koldanar] Well, I’m pretty certain that I won’t make it through tonight. Zombie Squid, your finest, without the brains, please! And keep them coming. [/QUOTE] No brains? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1935 "2008-07-31T11:03:08Z")
Sorry for the too-long delay, flights went SNAFU. Quickly the results for Day Five Dusk are: **Hal Briston** is lynched. **Zsofia** suicided (unless someone can find the post where she voted). **DiggitCamara** is Wolf. **Boozahol Squid, P.I.** is a Vampire. **Redwing** is a Vigilante. If you’re expecting a post from me containing a nugget of information, you’ll have to wait until mid-day today when I have more free time. Dawn will come at the usual time, Friday at noon, PT ---
**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1936 "2008-07-31T12:18:38Z")
Let’s hope **Zsofia** doesn’t make a 3rd mod-killed Townie. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1937 "2008-07-31T12:45:26Z")
Well crap…Redwing was our vig? What the hell…unless this was a way of dying before a forced suicide…what the hell! ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1938 "2008-07-31T13:37:38Z")
[QUOTE=Zsofia] Just want to warn you guys - I’m leaving town Saturday morning. I’ll be gone for a week. I hope to have some Internet access but am not sure how much I’ll be able to get. I’ll do my best to keep up. [/QUOTE] Due to extenuating circumstances, I’ll **unmodkill Zsofia**. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1939 "2008-07-31T13:45:12Z")
I’m going to claim right now in case I get targeted for death tonight, because I just got some interesting info. I am a Freemason Today I checked out Drain Bead and he is NOT a mason. The other people I can say are not masons are (in descending order most recent listed at the top). Koldanar Hockey Monkey Roosh Santo Rugger Interesting huh? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1940 "2008-07-31T13:49:23Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] I’m going to claim right now in case I get targeted for death tonight, because I just got some interesting info. I am a Freemason Today I checked out Drain Bead and he is NOT a mason. The other people I can say are not masons are (in descending order most recent listed at the top). Koldanar Hockey Monkey Roosh Santo Rugger Interesting huh? [/QUOTE] Fascinating, is what it is. So **Drain Bead** could be the Omega Wolf, or you could be lying scum. I’d consider the latter considerably more likely than the former. If you’re scum, this is a crazy gamble on your part; if you’re not a Freemason, someone else surely _is_, and surely checked out **Drain Bead** themselves, and will counter this claim. That’d be a big risk to take. I will vote for **Drain Bead** first thing toMorrow, unless I’m dead or other evidence surfaces. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324/1941 "2008-07-31T13:51:21Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Due to extenuating circumstances, I’ll **unmodkill Zsofia**. [/QUOTE] … I’ve never seen a meteor bounce off someone’s head like that before? Have you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-conspiracy-2-the-cabal-strikes-back-game-over/452324.md?page=98)