# Mafia de Cuba game 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 10, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081 "2015-12-10T15:43:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/21 "2015-12-12T16:27:29Z")

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The box has been returned to sachertorte and he may begin his interrogation.  
If sachertorte addresses a question to you, please respond. You do not have to tell the truth, and you can even dodge the question if you would like, but please respond with something so that everyone knows that you have seen the question.

You may talk even if sachertorte has not directly questioned you. I would like you to wait until sachertorte starts his interrogation, though.

A formal accusation will come in the form of:

MentalGuy, empty your pockets!

Once you are accused, it is okay with me if you go ahead and reveal what you took. Just be truthful. I will confirm it as soon as I can, and if it ended the game, will reveal the winner(s).

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/22 "2015-12-12T17:33:13Z")

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Wolverine: what did the box contain when mahaloth passed the box to you?

Professor Peppetwinkle: what did the box contain when IRconfused passed the box to you?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/23 "2015-12-12T17:45:36Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Re: Mafia De Cuba  
> Quote:
> 
> Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle  
> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by MentalGuy  
> Prof. Pepperwinkle,
> 
> You receive the box. It contains 10 diamonds and 1 Loyal Henchman token. You can help yourself to either
> 
> as many of the diamonds as you would like, or
> 
> the Loyal Henchman token  
> Please PM your choice.  
> MentalGuy  
> Decisions, decisions. I’l take the Loyal Henchman token. Thankyouverymuch.  
> You are a Loyal Henchman. You win if sachertorte wins.

Here ya go, boss!

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/24 "2015-12-12T17:54:53Z")

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Ugh. Can we establish a no quoting of PM rule? Obviously the PM can be doctored. But I don’t want to play spot the mistake in the PM.

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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/25 "2015-12-12T18:06:32Z")

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Yes, I would like to have players not post PM’s in the game thread.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/26 "2015-12-12T18:53:36Z")

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Sorry. I shall refrain in the future.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/27 "2015-12-12T19:11:26Z")

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No problem, Prof. I’m surprised it didn’t come up in the first game.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/28 "2015-12-13T00:41:14Z")

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That’s easy. The box had 1 diamond and a henchman role. There may or may not have been some gum stuck to the bottom when I passed it on. I lost my gum around the same time as I had the box. I’m sorry if it is messy. I’ll clean it up if you would like boss.

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**Author:** ![IRConfused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/76d3ee/32.png) [@IRConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IRConfused)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/29 "2015-12-13T02:39:38Z")

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With the information I have, and what **Prof. Pepperwrinkle** claimed, it looks like **Hookerchemical** took a role, and discarded a role, I took a role, and the **Prof** took the last one. I’m assuming that Don **sachertorte** took 5 diamonds from the box before he passed it on. That would mean that at the very least, **Mahaloth** took 1 to 10 diamonds.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/30 "2015-12-13T02:55:23Z")

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Is there some reason you believe what Prof. P claimed?

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**Author:** ![IRConfused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/76d3ee/32.png) [@IRConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IRConfused)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/31 "2015-12-13T04:46:02Z")

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I didn’t say that I did. I do believe most of what he said since it matches what I gave him. If he took diamonds and passed the henchman role along, then it looks like it made its way all the way to **wolverine**. that would still mean that **Mahaloth** took diamonds and that is all I have claimed.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/32 "2015-12-14T00:31:23Z")

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I had to read through that a few times, but it makes sense.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/33 "2015-12-14T00:39:22Z")

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Well, its been 24 hours since Wolverine responded and 29 hours since Prof P responded.  
No sign of Mahaloth so…

**Mahaloth, empty your pockets**

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/34 "2015-12-14T02:04:58Z")

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Excellent catch Don! Now we just need to accuse **Prof. Pepperwinkle** and finish our win. By my calculation, \*\*HookerChemical \*\*and **IRConfused** are also on team Godfather (with the FBI Agent role tossed for a second game) so we’re almost done with a 4 person victory (TexCat is the unfortunate urchin or last thief if you received no diamonds since the box only had 1 when it was passed to me).

NOTE: 3 roles chosen with 2 players means no diamonds were taken (I’m presuming the 5 diamonds missing were taken by you Don **sachertorte** ) so it would be almost impossible to pretend to be an FBI Agent. Therefore the FBI Agent role was tossed.

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**Author:** ![IRConfused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/76d3ee/32.png) [@IRConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IRConfused)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/35 "2015-12-14T02:40:13Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> Excellent catch Don! Now we just need to accuse **Prof. Pepperwinkle** and finish our win. By my calculation, \*\*HookerChemical \*\*and **IRConfused** are also on team Godfather (with the FBI Agent role tossed for a second game) so we’re almost done with a 4 person victory (TexCat is the unfortunate urchin or last thief if you received no diamonds since the box only had 1 when it was passed to me).
> 
> NOTE: 3 roles chosen with 2 players means no diamonds were taken (I’m presuming the 5 diamonds missing were taken by you Don **sachertorte** ) so it would be almost impossible to pretend to be an FBI Agent. Therefore the FBI Agent role was tossed.

I also did not say I did not believe **Prof. Pepperwinkle** is the last Henchman. That would mean that You would have to be either a thief or an urchin depending on how many diamonds that \*\*Mahaloth \*\*took. Lets wait and see before we start celebrating a win.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/36 "2015-12-14T02:48:46Z")

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Once Prof. Pepperwinkle is accused, we win. Mahaloth couldn’t have taken all of them since I had both a diamond and a role left for me. There couldn’t have been an urchin before me. That means there are 2 thieves: Mahaloth and Prof. Pepperwinkle with some division of diamonds between them. There will be 4 winners on team Godfather: sachertorte, HookerChemical (driver or henchman), IRConfused (driver or henchman), and me.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/37 "2015-12-14T02:51:11Z")

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Also, Prof. Pepperwinkle could quickly figure out that the 2 people in front of him were loyal to the Godfather so he would make sure to not lie about the items in the box he received because he would be caught.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/38 "2015-12-14T03:11:17Z")

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I’d still like to hear from Hooker.

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/39 "2015-12-14T04:30:55Z")

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Was there something specific you’d like to hear? Nothing about the front end contradicts what I know, but at the very least we should wait until we confirm the contents of Mahaloth’s pockets. I realize this plays a lot faster than Mafia, but the speed of everybody’s comfort level with this is offputting.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-de-cuba-game-2/740081/40 "2015-12-14T04:39:07Z")

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Yeah. Wolverine’s pushing the claims on me way too strongly. He doesn’t realize sachertorte watched me play through the last three games and by now knows I really don’t like being on the Scum team. Hence my full revelation at my earliest chance. IRC confirmed as much of my claim as he realistically could, and anything else is horsefeathers.

The other thing I’ve noticed in these two rounds is that the role claims go first, and go fast.

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