# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT EIGHT **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 27, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255 "2009-01-27T18:22:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/101 "2009-01-30T19:35:22Z")
In other news, do I believe **special ed** bussed yet another scum? He placed a fifth vote on Millit, when there were practically no runner ups at that point. Well, he had two votes, but that mean voting for himself ;). **Mhaye** made a case for special ed when he was to hang and **Millit** did as well. However, Millits case was much earlier and a follow up from the one started by MHaye. Since JSexton had already some heat that Day, it’s not unlikely for scum preparing a second lynch (besides amrussell). So for now: **unvote special ed** Looking at **brewha** next: his vote. unvote and revote of Millit does look really suspicious. As Rapier mentioned, the rest of is voting record is suspect as well. He voted Hal Day Five, Nanook (together with Millit) Day Six, amrussell Day Seven (but restored his vote too late). ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/102 "2009-01-30T19:42:38Z")
I told you she was clearly scum. Brewha? ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/103 "2009-01-30T19:49:47Z")
> [@amrussell](#): > > I told you she was clearly scum. > > Brewha? Can’t decide if I should bow to your powers of perception, or just have you roll the dice the next time I play craps. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/104 "2009-01-30T20:26:43Z")
Well bloody hell - go us! That’s a nice start to the weekend 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/105 "2009-01-30T22:17:33Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > Can’t decide if I should bow to your powers of perception, or just have you roll the dice the next time I play craps. 😃 Hey, if you can’t be good - be lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/106 "2009-01-30T22:59:50Z")
pedescribe, Mason Hockey Monkey, Mason Almost Human, Backup Doc amrussell brewha Nanook of the North Shore Natlaw Rapier42 special ed Total Lost (not scum) Zeriel MOSTLY DEAD **hawkeyeop** , Alpha Redshirt (Vanilla) **Mhaye** , Demon Moose, (Scum Investigator) **macey** , The Prince of Blades (Scum Strongman) **JSexton** , aka Evil Ash, a Scum Special **Millit the Frail** , The Bit Part Demon (Scum Protector) NO LONGER ALIVE **Pleonast** , the Sorority Treasurer (Mason) **NAF1138** , Vincent, the Dog Who Knows Things (Investigative) **Diggitcamara** , The Inquisitive Fool (Special) **Thing Fish** , The Religious Figure Having a Crisis of Faith (Investigative) **CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** , Ash (Special) **Chucara** , Beta Redshirt (Vanilla) **Hal Briston** , Alpha Redshirt (Vanilla) **Dotchan** , Alpha Redshirt (Vanilla) **bufftabby** , The Skanky Vampire Demon (Scum Roleblocker) **peekercpa** , Predator (Third-Party Serial Killer) **Blaster Master** , Freddy Krueger (Third-Party Serial Killer) * * * End of Day One: **macey** (9) - brewha, hawkeyeop, hockey monkey, special ed, dotchan, JSexton, pedescribe, Rapier42, Millit the Frail **Thing Fish** (4) - total lost, peekercpa, Pleonast, Chucara **Chucara** (2) - NAF1138, Diggitcamara **Pleonast** (1) - Thing Fish **peekercpa** (1) - Natlaw **CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (1) - bufftabby **Blaster Master** (1) - Cookies **Rapier42** (1) - amrussell No Vote (7) - MHaye, Blaster Master, Nanook of the North, Zeriel, Hal Briston, Almost Human, macey End of Day Two: **Peekercpa** (6) - Nanook, Brewha, Blaster Master, Special Ed, Rapier42, Mhaye **Dotchan** (4) - Amrussell, Total Lost, Hockey Monkey, Natlaw **Hawkeyeop** (2) - Pedescribe, Almost Human **Chucara** (2) - NAF1138, Diggitcamara **Blaster Master** (2) - Peekercpa, Chucara **Diggit** (1) - Millit **Cookies** (1) - Hawkeyeop No Vote - Dunno End of Day Three: **Chucara** (8) - Diggitcamara, Natlaw, Almost Human, Amrussell, Mhaye, Millit, Special Ed, Rapier **Blaster Master** (1) - Chucara **Amrussell** (1) - Pedescribe **Cookies** (1) - Brewha **Almost Human** (1) - Total Lost No Vote - Dunno End of Day Four: **Blaster Master** (7) - Natlaw, Dotchan, Brewha, Millit the Frail, JSexton, Hockey Monkey, Mhaye **Hockey Monkey** (1) - Almost Human **Hal Briston** - Cookies, Amrussell, Pedescribe, Blam, Special Ed **Cookies** - Hal **Mhaye** - NAF Day Five vote count: **Hal Briston** (5) - Brewha, Nanook, Jsexton, Natlaw, Special Ed **Mhaye** (4) - Hal Briston, Zeriel, Dotchan, Cookies **Brewha** (2) - Amrussell, Total Lost **Almost Human** (2) - Hockey Monkey, Pedescribe **Nanook** (1) - Millit the Frail **JSexton** (1) - Almost Human Day Six vote count: **Mhaye** (5) - Zeriel, Nanook, Pedescribe, Special Ed, Total Lost **Nanook** (3) - Millit the Frail, Dotchan, Brewha **JSexton** (3) - Almost Human, Amrussell, Natlaw **Special Ed** (1) - Mhaye Day Seven vote count: **JSexton** (5) - Almost Human, Amrussell, Natlaw, Special Ed, Total Lost **Amrussell** (4) - Rapier, Millit the Frail, Jsexton, Brewha **Special Ed** (2) - Zeriel, Pedescribe **Almost Human** (1) - Hockey Monkey **Nanook** (1) - Dotchan **Natlaw** (1) - Nanook Day Eight vote count: **Millet the Frail** (6) - Pedescribe, Almost Human, Nanook, Amrussell, Special Ed, Brewha **Special Ed** (2) - Millit the Frail, Natlaw **Brewha** (2) - Rapier42, Zeriel **Almost Human** (1) - Hockey Monkey ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/107 "2009-01-30T23:40:35Z")
Reasons Almost Human Is Not Scum: Rode a JSexton vote Day 5 thru Day 7, then helped lynch Millit. Reasons Amrussell Is Not Scum: Voted JSexton Day 6 and Day 7, then helped lynch Millit. Reasons Brewha Is Not Scum: Opening vote for Macey, final vote on Millet. Reasons Nanook Is Not Scum: Helped lynch Mhaye and Millet. Reasons Natlaw Is Not Scum: Helped lynch JSexton. Reasons Rapier42 Is Not Scum: Helped lynch Macey. Reasons Special Ed Is Not Scum: Has now helped lynch Mhaye, JSexton, and Millit, two of which were close enough that a vote could have swung it. Reasons Total Lost Is Not Scum: Helped lynch JSexton and MHaye. Reasons Zeriel Is Not Scum: Is an MHaye voter Day Five, when Hal just edged MHaye for the lynch, and leaves his vote through Day Six. * * * I’m not sure what that told us, except that it reveals a Natlaw record thats as bad as mine, in terms of votes for scum. I think Brewha is the better lynch, though, in terms of how his votes have actively helped scum. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/108 "2009-01-30T23:45:47Z")
Well, yeah I am sure of one thing it’s told us… it means that if one or both of Brewha or Natlaw aren’t scum, then ya’ll are going to be stuck looking for a scum player that bussed at least two of his buddies. Unless I’m somehow still alive at that point, in which case ya’ll will probably try to lynch me. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/109 "2009-01-31T00:08:49Z")
W00t! Go Town! _shakes zombie pom-poms_😃 ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/110 "2009-01-31T00:58:57Z")
SCUM 4 LIFE! 😕 Ummmm… SCUM 4 AFTERLIFE!! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/111 "2009-01-31T01:08:46Z")
_stabs Millit in the face_ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/112 "2009-01-31T03:46:02Z")
You two are both weirdos. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/113 "2009-01-31T04:24:07Z")
Oh, you just noticed? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/114 "2009-01-31T10:36:20Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > I’m not sure what that told us, except that it reveals a Natlaw record thats as bad as mine, in terms of votes for scum. > > I think Brewha is the better lynch, though, in terms of how his votes have actively helped scum. We do know for sure **JSexton** (vote 6) and **Millit** (vote 9) voted **macey** (and **MHaye** indicated he would have done the same if not for the board outage). So I modified your analysis by removing possible scum-on-scum votes and re-ordered based on suspicion: Reasons **brewha** Is Not Scum: Opening vote for macey. - _Removed Millit vote, who was 4-2 close to Dusk when brewha revoted_ Reasons **Rapier42** Is Not Scum: None. - _JSexton had already voted macey when you did._ Reasons **special ed** Is Not Scum: Has helped lynch macey and JSexton - _Removed the Day Six MHaye vote, it would have been close if MHaye or JSexton had voted to protect - but they didn’t. The Millit vote was the fifth._ Reasons **Nanook** Is Not Scum: Helped lynch Mhaye and Millet. - _How credible is the MHaye vote? Nanook voted Hal Day Five, placed 4th or 5th vote on MHaye Night Five. Day Six that turned into a second vote due to unvotes. Millit voted Nanook Day Six._ Reasons **Natlaw** Is Not Scum: Voted JSexton Day 6 and Day 7. - _Changed wording to be same as you did for amrussell_ Reasons **Zeriel** Is Not Scum: Is an MHaye voter Day Five, when Hal just edged MHaye for the lynch, and leaves his vote through Day Six. Reasons **Total Lost** Is Not Scum: Helped lynch JSexton. - _The JSexton vote was too late, but would have mattered is brewha’s amrussell vote hadn’t been late. Removed the last vote for MHaye Day Six._ Reasons **amrussell** Is Not Scum: Voted JSexton Day 6 and Day 7, then helped lynch Millit. Reasons **Almost Human** Is Not Scum: Rode a JSexton vote Day 5 thru Day 7, then helped lynch Millit. So why you above me: I think my JSexton vote is more credible then your macey vote. Why do I place brewha above you? Because his votes do seem to help scum more, though if I look at your record the no votes (partly due to vacation Day Five/Six) does leave a gap: End votes: **brewha** : macey, peeker, Cookies, BlaM, Hal, Nanook, amrussell, Millit **Rapier42** : macey, peeker, Chucara, no vote, no vote, no vote, amrussell, brewha MHaye and Millit voted Chucara, JSexton didn’t vote Day Three. I’ll wait to see if someone dies Tonight (if not possible only mostly dead left), but if there is a scum left, I think I’ll be voting for **brewha** or **Rapier42** (yes, yes there are seven other unknowns). If there is one scum left (and with six mostly dead): D9: 10/2.2, D10: 8/2.2, D11: 6/2.2, D12: 4/2.2 (LyLo) If there is no scum left and a Beta kills a mostly dead, it would take us till six Days to kill them of if we start lynching Betas now. That seems unlikely, unless Story ends the game when we figured it out. So better to assume there is a fully alive one left. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/115 "2009-01-31T17:11:16Z")
The problem I have with your analysis, Natlaw, is that it’s subjective… you’re removing votes that you feel have the potential to be by-scum-for-scum, but where is your threshold? Move that threshold and you’ll get a far different picture. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/116 "2009-01-31T17:13:23Z")
Btw, > [@](#): > > Changed wording to be same as you did for amrussell Good call. Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/117 "2009-01-31T17:21:45Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > The problem I have with your analysis, Natlaw, is that it’s subjective… you’re removing votes that you feel have the potential to be by-scum-for-scum, but where is your threshold? Move that threshold and you’ll get a far different picture. It’s a tricky conundrum, that’s for sure. I think, that, tomorrow, there will be a 1/5ized deadite vaporized. Just a hunch. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/118 "2009-01-31T18:26:11Z")
Yeah, it is subjective - my threshold was when voting for the runner up would not have changed the outcome (your macey vote and the late Millit votes) and votes made for MHaye Day Six. Maybe the phrasing ‘Reasons X Is Not Scum’ is confusing. I took it as ‘votes town would make, but scum most likely would not’. Since **Zeriel** missed votes the first four Days and isn’t posting a lot, I double checked whether his MHaye voted should place him that low on my list or not. His [vote](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10691110&postcount=91) is about MHaye missing his promised analysis and the slip about Hal, pointing [out](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10692074&postcount=99) it was not forgotten public knowledge and mentioning it [again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10695379&postcount=204) Night Five. Day Six he only makes short posts that he doesn’t trust MHaye. So he didn’t try to stop **MHaye** ’s lynch D5, which scum **JSexton** did. I think JSexton was not alone though, so most likely a scum in the other unknown **Hal** voters (brewha, Nanook, Natlaw and special ed, but I known for sure I’m town). > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT SIX](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-six/481695/7): > > > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT SIX](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-six/481695/4): > > > > I think \*\*cookies \*\*abilities are as she described. Ash-like without the Ash powers. > > That is about as meaningless a statement as has attempted to be a meaningful statement in this game. > > Vote on MHaye stands. Not trusting the claim at this point. This one stands out because of **special ed** quote, not Zeriel and since he never responded to it, I’ll ask again what he meant by it: - **Cookies** never described her abilities (unless you think her mostly dead killer story was the little white lie). The role PM she [posted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10652297&postcount=139) certainly didn’t contain (movie) Ash-like powers. -Should I read the second sentence as: ‘Movie Ash-like without the movie Ash powers’ (as I did [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10705674&postcount=9) calling them imaginary due to the color) or is it a slip ‘Evil Ash-like without the Evil Ash powers’? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/119 "2009-01-31T19:42:34Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > It’s a tricky conundrum, that’s for sure. > > I think, that, tomorrow, there will be a 1/5ized deadite vaporized. Just a hunch. would you care to share the reasoning behind your hunch? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255/120 "2009-01-31T19:47:38Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > This one stands out because of **special ed** quote, not Zeriel and since he never responded to it, I’ll ask again what he meant by it: > - **Cookies** never described her abilities (unless you think her mostly dead killer story was the little white lie). The role PM she [posted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10652297&postcount=139) certainly didn’t contain (movie) Ash-like powers. > -Should I read the second sentence as: ‘Movie Ash-like without the movie Ash powers’ (as I did [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10705674&postcount=9) calling them imaginary due to the color) or is it a slip ‘Evil Ash-like without the Evil Ash powers’? are you asking what I meant by ash-like without the ash powers? What I meant was, she appeared to be Ash, and acted like Ash, but didn’t have the impact we would expect from Ash. I would expect Ash to be able to actually have a boomstick, not a tree branch. so, yeah, I’m referring to the movie. Is evil Ash the guy who leads the Army in the 3rd movie? or is it one of those little Ash like things because weren’t there more than 1 of those? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-eight/483255.md?page=7)