# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FIVE

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 12, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855 "2009-01-12T01:11:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/161 "2009-01-14T22:55:17Z")

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My meeting will get out at 4pm, hopefully earlier. Let’s see what chaos has ensued by then.

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/162 "2009-01-14T22:56:02Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> As I started to look into it I realised that there was insufficient evidence to support the case (basically the case against Hal is “He’s a lurker” and I don’'t think that’s a good reason to vote anyone until you’ve eliminated all or most of the alternatives) so I squelched it and pasted the original analysis in again.

I reread your original explanation again and you do tell the same there (BlaM vote -\> copy -\> edit to Hal vote -\> paste original under edited). My argument was indeed that you went Hal first, then changed to BlaM, but your explanation makes more sense.

> [@](#):
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> I should have been to bed an hour ago - and here I am waiting to see if I made a mistake worse then my no-vote YesterDay…

^^ same here it’s 23:30 and still one and a half hour to go :o.

[QUOTE=MHaye]  
Welcome to the game; you are the Questionable Hillbilly with a shotgun.

I will say that neither I nor my charges have yet been attacked.  
[/QUOTE]

If true, the power is testable with the Vigilante, but wastes a shell and says nothing about your alignment. So not a good idea.  
If not you, who protected **pedescribe** Night One (yes, I’m assuming **Blaster Master** tried to kill, no just watch)? It would mean we got another protective role, but with four killers that seems possible.

If MHaye is telling the truth, it give a townie who can’t be Night killed easily, like pedescribe said, that seems pretty powerful.

For now:  
**unvote MHaye**  
and I’m not sure who to switch to… little more than an hour to go (which means I’m previewing this post for half an hour now ^-^).

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/163 "2009-01-14T22:56:26Z")

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> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#):
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> You have a double negative there.
> 
> If you meant to say that neither you or your charge(s) have been attacked, then I don’t see the harm in telling us who those targets were.

I assume you’ve seen the correcting post by now. Sorry for the typo.

The one reason to not tell people who I protected (if anyone) is that I’m playing a game of bluff with the deadites from now on, and maybe knowledge of who I guarded on a given Night will help them guess who I’m thinking about guarding in the future.

Once the knowledge is out it can’t be recalled. That’s why I’m hesitant.

[oog]  
I’ve just had a database error loading this post to reply to.  
[/oog]

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/164 "2009-01-14T22:58:29Z")

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We’re trying to lynch you. You have the ability to adjust your behavior to limit the game of bluff with the scum. This seems like a very easy choice to me.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/165 "2009-01-14T23:02:57Z")

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We still have 1 hours? I’ve got 5 PM Central, which is 6 PM Eastern, and the Day ends at 7 Eastern?

I’m at a loss now. I probably shouldn’t have switched.

Nobody’s feeling my \*\*Hal \*\*suspicions. I’m not really buying into \*\*Mhaye \*\*anymore

btw,

**unvote MHaye**

I see the points against **brewha** , I’m just thinking there’s got to be someone scummier.

The confirmed block didn’t seem to reach consensus, did it?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/166 "2009-01-14T23:05:17Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> We still have 1 hours? I’ve got 5 PM Central, which is 6 PM Eastern, and the Day ends at 7 Eastern?
> 
> I’m at a loss now. I probably shouldn’t have switched.
> 
> Nobody’s feeling my \*\*Hal \*\*suspicions. I’m not really buying into \*\*Mhaye \*\*anymore
> 
> btw,
> 
> **unvote MHaye**
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> I see the points against **brewha** , I’m just thinking there’s got to be someone scummier.
> 
> The confirmed block didn’t seem to reach consensus, did it?

That’s odd, on preview, I was going to change “I’m just thinking there’s got to be someone scummier.” to “I still see pro-town motivations for his actions.”

but it seemed to preview AND post at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/167 "2009-01-14T23:10:36Z")

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> [@Natlaw](#):
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> If not you, who protected **pedescribe** Night One (yes, I’m assuming **Blaster Master** tried to kill, no just watch)? It would mean we got another protective role, but with four killers that seems possible.

With all the crippled investigators I have been thinking about this for a while… maybe all Towns power roles are not guite “right”. We might have 2 or even 3 roles that can protect - but not without costs.  
NAF could only investigate - if he had a statement  
DiggitC could only talk to the death…

Just a thought - not sure if I got it right (I always use JSextons balance - but it really don’t work for a game like this)

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/168 "2009-01-14T23:16:00Z")

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my informal vote count has

\*\*Mhaye \*\*at 4  
\*\*Hal \*\*at 3  
\*\*brew \*\*at 2  
\*\*Nanook \*\*at 1  
\*\*Jsexton \*\*at 1  
\*\*almost \*\*at 1

anyone have some great insight for me at this juncture? As anyone who’s read knows, my inclination is to vote for **Hal**

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/169 "2009-01-14T23:22:11Z")

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…I’m not buying the Hal case. Sure, it’d be better to get a vanilla than a Hillbilly, but I’m pretty sure Hal is a vanilla and not a Deadite.

Of the people with votes, I’m suspicious of AH (duh), and a little suspicious of brewha and Nanook. As such, I’ll reluctantly switch my vote to

Unvote Almost Human  
Vote Brewha

With a promise to look very carefully at Natlaw if brewha is town.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/170 "2009-01-14T23:27:30Z")

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**Unvote Hal**

Whew I got back home in time.

I’ve seen \*\*Mhaye’s \*\*claim so my vote won’t go there. I made note of my reservations about Almost Human and brewha’s motivation for voting for me on the weak reasoning of “me too”, and I’m feeling that either or both of them are scum. Right now, I’ll vote with **pede**.

**Vote Almost Human**

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/171 "2009-01-14T23:27:32Z")

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MHaye is off the table for me for today, until we can test him out and comb through his claim properly.  
I still read brewha as town, as outlined before.  
amrussell is my first choice for lynch, but no one is feeling that.

So, I have to vote Hal. I’m not wholly convinced, but of those with a shot to be lynched, I think he’s the best choice.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/172 "2009-01-14T23:28:39Z")

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Dammit!

Pede, do you want to switch back?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/173 "2009-01-14T23:29:13Z")

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this is almost comically funny

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/174 "2009-01-14T23:31:10Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> this is almost comically funny

I’m hearing Yakkity Sax in my head right now.

I don’t know if I’m Benny or the bear.

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/175 "2009-01-14T23:35:17Z")

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[QUOTE=pedescribe]  
With a promise to look very carefully at Natlaw if brewha is town.  
[/QUOTE]

I hope you’ll look at everyone who voted or was suspicious of him.

Anyway, to get a vote in before Dusk, but I don’t have a good case. There hardly any time left for someone else to claim, so I rather not vote for unclaimed. That leaves the claimed vanilla: **dotchan** , **Zeriel** and **Hal Briston**.  
If **MHaye** is telling the truth, he is a powerful town role and so I’ll

**vote Hal Briston**  
mostly to protect MHaye.

Good night all.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/176 "2009-01-14T23:37:41Z")

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Why would you not want to vote for an unclaimed?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/177 "2009-01-14T23:37:47Z")

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Here’s my idea

The 2 most in danger are \*\*Hal \*\*and **MHaye**.

I say we lynch one today and one tomorrow. The vote records if one turns up scum should be impressive. If they both turn up Town, then we’ve just shit ourselves.

oh look, on preview, more votes

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/178 "2009-01-14T23:39:02Z")

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They aren’t the only two choices.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/179 "2009-01-14T23:41:09Z")

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That the votes came fast and hard for Mhaye and Hal and that they are not following suit for brewha or Almost Human is telling.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/180 "2009-01-14T23:41:48Z")

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Twenty minutes…

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