# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 6, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155 "2009-01-06T23:54:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/1 "2009-01-06T23:54:18Z")
**INT THE DINING ROOM** \*The group is gathered again around the dining room, waiting expectantly. At first, it seems there will be no pre-dawn visitor. Then the candles flicker and go out. SOUND OF WIND. Then: TWO KNOCKS. A pause. ONE KNOCK. A pause. ONE KNOCK. The lights rise again.\* A NEEDLESSLY SARCASTIC CYNIC Now, how can be sure you asked the questions you said you’d ask, Diggit. If that’s your real name. Diggit? Diggit? \*But DIGGIT is not there. Chairs scrape against the wood floor as the group, en masse, hurries down the hall to the small first-floor bedroom in which DIGGIT hid away through the Night. POV - The Crowd, as they scan DIGGIT’s room. It is an unholy mess. Books, strange artifacts, mysterious half-consumed bottles of unidentifiable liquids… and DIGGIT himself, slumped over a writing desk, as if he fell asleep reading a book that is not there. Except for the pool of blood under his head, and the many shards of glass embedded in the back of his skull.\* NEEDLESSLY SARCASTIC CYNIC You notice he never actually answered my question. (Off their glares) What? * * * **DIGGITCAMARA** , _The Inquisitive Fool_, Whose Many Potential Powers Will Not Be Detailed Here But Who Was Definitely Pro-Town, has been foully done in. * * * And thus beginneth Day Four, which will end at 7:00PM EST on Friday, January 9. I’ll post a vote count presently. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/2 "2009-01-06T23:59:30Z")
Bye Diggit ☹ ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/3 "2009-01-07T00:09:44Z")
well crap, the knocks tell us it was bufftabby ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/4 "2009-01-07T00:21:05Z")
> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT THREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-three/479484/248): > > vote hockey monkey > > for generally not doing much other than a couple of insubstantial posts and a me too vote. > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT THREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-three/479484/257): > > That’s all you got? I admit I haven’t been all that active, but most of it was during the holidays. When I voted for Jsexton I said myself it was a me too vote. Then I unvoted and voted Macey. Then I hounded peeker about his confession, but because I was busy at work, I missed the opportunity to vote for him. Sorry! Then today I said that Cookies claim stunk. Not exactly insubstantial. You got me on that Day One me too first vote of the game though. :rolleyes: > > Anyway, I don’t think voting for Cookies is the right call toMorrow. Let NAF (who I think is telling the truth) do his thing. Let Diggit (who I think is telling the truth) do his thing. We have all Day to decide who to vote for. (Not me BTW). Bah, missed it by \>\< that much. The above is what I posted right after storyteller closed the day/night 3 thread. I was hoping to get a new scum from Diggit’s knocks before they whacked him. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/5 "2009-01-07T00:30:03Z")
Well, damn. I thought for sure we’d have a scum to hang toDay–it would be too much of a coincidence for **buffy** to get killed and investigated the same Night. Guess not. ☹ I was also wondering whether the scum would play chicken with the Doc(s) and try to take out a power role or head in the other direction and whittle down the claimed vanillas. We know the answer to that one now too. I see **Diggit** ’s completely dead, too. We really need to quit relying on **NAF** and now **Cookies** to give us info that may or may not even be useful. That’s not how we’ll win this game, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/6 "2009-01-07T01:11:44Z")
> [@Millit\_the\_Frail](#): > > Well, damn. I thought for sure we’d have a scum to hang toDay–it would be too much of a coincidence for **buffy** to get killed and investigated the same Night. Guess not. ☹ > > I was also wondering whether the scum would play chicken with the Doc(s) and try to take out a power role or head in the other direction and whittle down the claimed vanillas. We know the answer to that one now too. I see **Diggit** ’s completely dead, too. We really need to quit relying on **NAF** and now **Cookies** to give us info that may or may not even be useful. That’s not how we’ll win this game, IMHO. Wait, did someone suggest _playing mafia_? Huh. Didn’t know that still happened. K, I just caught up with the last 36 hours of posting. Pedescribe, Total Lost, Hawkeyeop…you guys have got to be kidding me. You seriously want to lynch Cookies over a typo in her role PM? Really? Kudos to amrussell and Natlaw for actually analyzing Cookies posts. There’s some meat there, but I’m generally reading Cookies as consistent with her pro-town play. Given that storyteller actually wrote “total lost” in [vote counts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10644624&postcount=57), I’m amazed that this is still even on the table. I’d really like to think that scum were behind the Cookies push, but given that it was largely created by dead town and a mason, not so much. The one person I’m wondering about is Total Lost herself. The way I see it, Cookies tidbit of info isn’t conclusive, in that we don’t know that the scum are comprised solely of deadites. No reason there couldn’t be a traitorous human or werewolf or what have you amongst the scum. We also seem to still have another PFK floating around, and after seeing the Predator, well, it could be Freddy Krueger for all we know. So here’s what I’m thinking. After seeing Cookies PM, Total Lost thinks “Hey, if Cookies shows up dead, then I’m confirmed non-deadite, which basically = town!”, which is a pretty good position for a PFK or mafioso to be in. I’d like to do a little review of Total Lost and see what might turn up. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/7 "2009-01-07T01:24:37Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > The way I see it, Cookies tidbit of info isn’t conclusive, in that we don’t know that the scum are comprised solely of deadites. No reason there couldn’t be a traitorous human or werewolf or what have you amongst the scum. We also seem to still have another PFK floating around, and after seeing the Predator, well, it could be Freddy Krueger for all we know. Buffytabby was the Skanky Vampire Demon, a Scum Roleblocker not a deadite. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/8 "2009-01-07T01:33:33Z")
Why all the smudging of amrussell, guys? I’ve seen several “yeah, I think he’s scum”, but I haven’t seen anybody build a case. One of you who think he’s scum wanna take a whack at it? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/9 "2009-01-07T02:36:26Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Buffytabby was the Skanky Vampire Demon, a Scum Roleblocker > > not a deadite. BUFFTABBY was a Deadite. Sorry if that was unclear. So was MACEY. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/10 "2009-01-07T02:55:33Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Bye Diggit ☹ Bye! Go town! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/11 "2009-01-07T04:01:53Z")
Aw crap, we lost another investigator? At least we know DiggitCamara was town. I’m off to do a re-read with that in mind. See if there are any scummy reactions to his reveal or his posts in general. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/12 "2009-01-07T04:10:47Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > Why all the smudging of amrussell, guys? I’ve seen several “yeah, I think he’s scum”, but I haven’t seen anybody build a case. One of you who think he’s scum wanna take a whack at it? I don’t recall that. Who’s been attacking him? ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/13 "2009-01-07T11:48:55Z")
Farewell, **DiggitCamara** , now you can talk with the death without knocks :(. Only one Night kill probably means out vigilante is careful and doesn’t want to reduce our current numbers advantage. It could be no vigilante and a scum double kill on Night One (but **macey** the Strongman was dead), so that seems unlikely. > [@Millit\_the\_Frail](#): > > I was also wondering whether the scum would play chicken with the Doc(s) and try to take out a power role or head in the other direction and whittle down the claimed vanillas. We know the answer to that one now too. It looks too me they did both: **Diggit** s power was easiest to verify with the knocks and his power don’t makes much sense for scum or PFK. So that would have made him semi-confirmed as town. So Scum took out a semi-confirmed town power role, who most likely wouldn’t be protected (we only got the knocks this morning, while scum already knew he wasn’t scum). **Diggit** might have had others powers as well: **Story** remained pretty vague and I asked Diggit to post his role PM, but he didn’t do that. So his loss might hurt more than it seems (his ask-questions-of-the-dead power isn’t that useful without an dead investigator with info). > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT THREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-three/479484/63): > > > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT THREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-three/479484/58): > > > > Rereading **Hawk** / **Cookies** now we know Hawk is town, I couldn’t find much that is useful now. A lot depends what Cookies’ alignment is, so for future reference, since votes for **peekercpa** hide a lot: > > > > If Cookies is town, I would expect scum to support Hawk. > > Why? I would assume scum might just try to push for more interaction between Cookie/Hawk but without really supporting either. If we did have a Town on Town-situation, scum could have been encouraging the dicussing without blatant support of either one of them. I missed this Yesterday, but you’re right: it would be true only if Hawk scum / Cookies town. I already noticed I was missing the ignoring-both card pile, so I’ll have to recheck that analysis anyway when we know more about **Cookies** alignment. **peekercpa** did give a perfect excuse to smudge either without voting. [QUOTE=JSexton] I don’t recall that. Who’s been attacking him [_amrussell_]? [/QUOTE] **Hawkeyeop** had him scummy for defending **macey** and **NAF** named him Yesterday as well. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/14 "2009-01-07T12:28:25Z")
Alas, poor **Diggit**. Not, I suppose, a big surprise. Pity about \*\*bufftabby \*\*though. > [@JSexton](#): > > > [@Rapier42](#): > > > > Why all the smudging of amrussell, guys? I’ve seen several “yeah, I think he’s scum”, but I haven’t seen anybody build a case. One of you who think he’s scum wanna take a whack at it? > > I don’t recall that. Who’s been attacking him? Im glad someone else noticed it. Hawk and NAF have both suggested that I’ve been a bit scummy, and pede has voted for me, but no-one’s shown their working. I like the idea of playing Mafia for a bit and seeing where that gets us. Here’s what we know: Town: Pleonast, Thing Fish, Hawkeyeop, Chucara, DiggitCamara, pedescribe Scum: macey, bufftabby PFK: peekercpa Here’s an update of Day One votes, shamelessly cribbed from Natlaw’s from Day Two: **pedescribe** - (Pleonast), (Almost Human), (bufftabby), (Hawkeyeop), (DiggitCamara) **TotalLost** - (Pleonast) **Pleonast** - (Natlaw), (Jsexton), Thing Fish **Rapier42** - (Pleonast), amrussell **Jsexton** - (Cookies), (Hockey Monkey), (Pleonast) **Thing Fish** - Total Lost, (special ed), (pedescribe), peekercpa, Pleonast, Chucara **DiggitCamara** - (Natlaw) **peekercpa** - (amrussell), Natlaw **macey** - brewha, Hawkeyeop, Hockey Monkey, special ed, dotchan, Jsexton, pedescribe, Rapier42, Millit the Frail **Chucara** - NAF1138, DiggitCamara **Cookies** - bufftabby **Blaster Master** - Cookies **Millet the Frail** - Almost Human No vote: MHaye (promised one, but board outage), Blaster Master (no posts), Nanook of the North Shore (traveling), Zeriel (says busy at work, one post with fluff vote on dotchan), Hal Briston (one post), macey Night One, Day Two: **Pleonast** - (Thing Fish) **Rapier42** - (amrussell) **Thing Fish** - (Total Lost), (peekercpa), (Pleonast), (Chucara), (pedescribe), **peekercpa** - (Natlaw), Nanook, brewha, Blaster Master, special ed, Rapier42, MHaye **Chucara** - NAF1138, DiggitCamara **Cookies** - hawkeyeop, (dotchan), (brewha), (Rapier42) **Blaster Master** - (Cookies), peekercpa, (brewha), Chucara \*\*Hawkeyeop \*\*- Cookies, pedescribe, (JSexton), Almost Human **DiggitCamara** - (pedescribe), Millit the Frail **dotchan** - amrussell, Total Lost, Hockey Monkey, Natlaw Not voting: Hal Briston, Zeriel, Had voted, but ended with no vote: dotchan, JSexton No vote on Day but vote rolled over: NAF, DiggitCamara Night Two, Day Three (NB I’m ignoring the unvotes/revotes that went with the abortive Night lynch test. Also, if people explicitly revoted for their rollover candidate, I’ve underlined the vote): **Chucara** - (NAF1138), DiggitCamara, (pedescribe), Natlaw, Almost Human, amrussell, MHaye, Millit the Frail, special ed, Rapier42 **Cookies** - (hawkeyeop), brewha **Blaster Master** - (Chucara), Chucara \*\*Hawkeyeop \*\*- Cookies, (pedescribe), (Almost Human) **DiggitCamara** - (Millit the Frail), (amrussell), (pedescribe), **dotchan** - (amrussell), (Total Lost), (Hockey Monkey), (Natlaw) \*\*pedescribe \*\*- (Chucara) \*\*amrussell \*\* - pedescribe Almost Human - Total Lost Not voting - Blaster Master, Nanook, Hockey Monkey, JSexton, dotchan, Cookies, Diggit Camara Voted but finished with no vote - NAF I’ll stop there. Some analysis to follow, but please, feel free to add your own, or to use this as the starting point for looking at individual posters. (PS - **Millit the Frail** : I found your spreadsheet very helpful in doing this, but you missed \*\*Blaster Master’s \*\*vote for \*\*peeker \*\*from your Day Two ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/15 "2009-01-07T13:22:57Z")
Our unconfirmed voters tend to cluster on the bandwagons: no more than two confirmed townies voted for macey or Chucara , and none voted for peeker. \*\*Names that repeat in all three \*\* Names that appear twice _Names that appear only once_ macey - brewha, Hawkeyeop, _Hockey Monkey_, **special ed** , _dotchan_, _Jsexton_, pedescribe, **Rapier42** , Millit the Frail peekercpa - _Nanook_, brewha, _Blaster Master_, **special ed,** **Rapier42** , MHaye Chucara - DiggitCamara, _Natlaw_, _Almost Human_, _amrussell_, MHaye, Millit the Frail, **special ed** , **Rapier42** Now there are two hypotheses that can be brought to bear here: first is the uncomplicated one - scum are attracted to bandwagons. On that basis, \*\*special ed \*\*and \*\*Rapier42 \*\*might make an eyebrow twitch. (Note that \*\*Blam \*\*and **MHaye** , by virtue of missed votes, are also 100% bandwagon voters.) The second hypothesis, by way of riposte to a “scum would never be so simplistic” attack on the first hypothesis, is that scum who found themselves on a bandwagon on Day One or Two would avoid appearing on any subsequent pile-ons. By that measure, \*\*JSexton’s \*\*and dotchan’s failure to vote on Day Two raises the eyebrow further. One further point regarding bandwagons: at the point that peeker admitted to Nightkilling, scum had a vested interest in lynching him, whether he was Vig or SK. The fact that two hitherto quiet voters (Nanook and Blam) appeared out of the woodwork shortly after his post hoists an already overworked eyebrow somewhere north of the hairline. I’m going to start off simple and take a look at special ed and Rapier42. Because I’ve got an unverified townie feel from Rapier, I’m going to start the Day off with: **unvote Blam** vote **special ed** ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/16 "2009-01-07T14:24:31Z")
While I agree with most of your analysis (you beat me to the vote-counting, dammit), I’m mostly feeling weird about your statement of “townie feel” from Rapier–I’m curious as to why you’d even throw that in there instead of just picking special ed instead. Seems somewhat unwarranted (of course, you also admit that). I’ll be poking around some of the action on Day Two, around peeker’s declaration–that will likely yield something as well. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/17 "2009-01-07T14:40:46Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > While I agree with most of your analysis (you beat me to the vote-counting, dammit), I’m mostly feeling weird about your statement of “townie feel” from Rapier–I’m curious as to why you’d even throw that in there instead of just picking special ed instead. Seems somewhat unwarranted (of course, you also admit that). > > I’ll be poking around some of the action on Day Two, around peeker’s declaration–that will likely yield something as well. Well, I had to pick between the two of them somehow - not giving any reason would have been weird too (and, in fact, misleading). But it’s purely a gut call and I will be checking it. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/18 "2009-01-07T16:12:39Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > (you beat me to the vote-counting, dammit) Heh, I was planning to do it as well. You all will have to with my updated signature for now (some tinyurls in there because I hit the signature limit - max 1000 chars, 4 lines). ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/19 "2009-01-07T16:20:19Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > K, I just caught up with the last 36 hours of posting. Pedescribe, Total Lost, Hawkeyeop…you guys have got to be kidding me. You seriously want to lynch Cookies over a typo in her role PM? Really? You aren’t the first person to lump me into this, so let me clear, the typo was never any part of my case against Cookies. Though I would say I’d expect Story to take more care into writing PMs than Vote counts, it is a minor point. Rather it was her behavior in relation to Macey in Day one, to me Night one, and her reaction to Naf’s claim. I believe you said you would look into people’s reactions to Naf’s claim, but I don’t think you ever followed up on that. > [@](#): > > I’d really like to think that scum were behind the Cookies push, but given that it was largely created by dead town and a mason, not so much. Isn’t it somewhat interesting that no scum is behind this lynch though. I mean if a couple of confirmed townies were so convinced that Cookies is scum, it wouldn’t be too difficult for the scum to get her lynched. Again the reactions to cases are as important as the cases themselves. The fact that no-one other then a mason and I (and kinda Brewha) are really trying to get Cookies lynched is another reason that I think I’m right here. Particularly, since there isn’t an obvious other target, so any scum could be at risk. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/20 "2009-01-07T16:35:19Z")
OK, Special Ed: Day One - 8 posts [Votes Thing Fish](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10602137#post10602137)for the “two candidates” - mainly to apply pressure. Then [unvotes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10602469#post10602469)when TF defends himself, saying he was mainly trying to create conversation. [votes macey](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10605128#post10605128), based on uncharacteristic fishing. [Challenges](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10609468#post10609468)Chucara’s Alpha/Beta reveal plan, suggests Chuc is fishing. Night - [Defends](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10615278#post10615278)using votes to apply pressure (when challenged by TF over this) but admits that it is a tactic scum can use. [Discusses](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10618672#post10618672)the problems with the “everyone pretend they’re investigators” idea. Comes up with several flaws, but says it may not be entirely worthless. Day Two - 11 posts Says his fear is that \*\*Hawk \*\*and \*\*Cookies \*\*are both town - wants to hear more before voting. Challenges Natlaw to be clearer about his take on peeker. Then, picks up peeker’s confession post and [votes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10630628#post10630628)accordingly. Night - [Discusses](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10633316#post10633316)NAF’s role. Points out both the necessity of [lynching NAF for full confirmation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10633321#post10633321)and the risk of [scum bumping off confirmeds](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10635397#post10635397). There’s nothing here that scum couldn’t have posted, but I lean slightly pro-town because I think that scum would be unlikely to advertise their likely counter-move against NAF. Day Three - 19 posts Gets involved in discussion about DiggitCamara’s role and comes with a [question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10645329#post10645329)[set](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10652377#post10652377)designed to discover Thing Fish’s investigatee. This is a fairly pro-town thing to do, as it’s directly aimed at finding scum. If he were scum, he’d have to have known that bufftabby was the target - I don’t currently see how that’s possible, but it might be. [Votes Chucara](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10648797#post10648797)in an acknowledged “Me Too” vote, based on MHaye’s analysis. Night - gets in a [discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10653832#post10653832)with NAF about [confirmation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10653937#post10653937)and trust. Suggests that NAF should investigate scummiest looking people to either a) confirm town or b) find scum. When NAF disagrees, ed also says that NAF finding scum would “[give you a bit more cred](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10654581#post10654581)”. This is wrong - it won’t give NAF any cred - but not necessarily scummy. Summary: Overall, I’m leaning town. There’s maybe a slight tendency to get more involved in tactical discussions rather than hunting scum, but he does appear to be looking for the town advantage. More to the point, there are actions that are difficult to see as scum-motivated - specifically, producing the DC question and highlighting the risk of scum bumping off NAF’s good guys. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155.md?page=2)