# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 6, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155 "2009-01-06T23:54:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/281 "2009-01-10T05:06:34Z")
Hot sweet damn. Good stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/282 "2009-01-10T10:15:59Z")
> [@amrussell](#): > > I’m going to stick my neck out a mile wide here and either win much kudos for my percipience or end my days as a laughing-stock: > > I think Blam is a PFK called Freddie Kruger who has the power to affect people’s dreams… > [@storyteller0910](#): > > BLASTER MASTER, Freddy Krueger, a Third-Party Serial Killer, has been lynched.\*\* Aw yeah. Awww, YEAH. I’m so glad this happened on Saturday, because doing a victory dance round my work PC would have looked slightly odd. However, it’s not completely brilliant, because I also said this: > [@](#): > > …and has to be killed by the townspeople to fulfill his win-condition. So I’m not going to vote for him, mainly because that’s what he seems to want. In which I was \*\*\*entirely \*\*\*wrong. So maybe just half a kudo. I’ll do some proper posting this afternoon, but I just had to, you know, strut. A little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/283 "2009-01-10T13:54:26Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > In thinking about the Scum move tonight. If **NAF** is truthful, hopefully, we’ve WiFoM’d them for a change. They could (1)try to take **NAF** out, (2) hunt for the doctor, or (3) try to take out **cookies**. There is also **pedescribe** out of the list, our most confirmed player alive who can confirm others (unless only two masons). If nightmare Ash is real, **Cookies** might not be there prime target due to her connection to it (or to **Total Lost** ). If Ash and nightmare Ash are siblings, they could die together? Anyway it’s the doctors choice who to protect. > [@pedescribe](#): > > So the question is, can we believe Freddie when he says that dotchan is Vanilla Alpha? Storyteller didn’t seem to indicate that Freddie had an inventoresque role. So was he using a watch role first night and an investigate role second night? Or did his kills just fail three nights in a row, for three different reasons? He could have an investigative power to help determine the kill point value of someone, but I think his nightmare kill failed because [“she’s tougher and more, let’s call it “Alpha,” than the rest”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10668076&postcount=142). Yes, everything by Blaster Master could have been a lie, but I think he tried to stick to the truth where he could. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/284 "2009-01-10T14:37:14Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Nice! That “bad” comment sealed his fate in my mind, but I didn’t have a chance to get back in and change my vote once I’d thought about it for a minute. > > I know that either NAF or myself will have to die or some other confirmation will have to come up in order for any of you to truly trust that I’m town and Total Lost is not a Deadite, but BLaM coming up as a PFK takes a good bit of the potetial PFK heat off of Total Lost, I think. > > She could be some flavor of non-deadite scum, but there is no direct evidence for such a thing existing. She has been awfully quiet for the last couple of real days though, and had no vote this last time around. I havn’t read the last part of the Day yet - but you’re right I have been too quiet the last couple of real days. It has a lot to do with RL and lack of time. As for no vote - I don’t think that has ever happened for me before and I’m truely sorry. And Millits smiley-summary was really fun - I can’t wait to read what has been going on! ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/285 "2009-01-10T14:38:35Z")
_ **Day Four votes:** _ **Blaster Master** (7): _Natlaw_, (_amrussell_), dotchan, (pedescribe), (Zeriel), Millit the Frail, brewha, JSexton, (NAF1138), Hockey Monkey, (Zeriel), Mhaye **Hockey Monkey** (1): _Almost Human_ **Mhaye** (1): (_NAF1138_) , NAF1138 **NAF1138** (0): (_pedescribe_), (Cookies) **special ed** (0): (amrussell) **Natlaw** (2): (Rapier42), (NAF1138) **Rapier42** (0): (amrussell) **Cookies** (1): (Blaster Master), Hal Briston **Hal Briston** (5): pedescribe, amrussell, Cookies, Blaster Master, special ed Voted, but no vote at Dusk: **Zeriel** (invalid vote), **Rapier42** Did not vote, but had rollover: **Almost Human** No votes: **Total Lost** , **Nanook** Colors: Unknown, Town, Deadite, Third-Party In brackets: Unvoted or invalid vote. Italic: Rollover vote. No reason for stopping BlaMs lynch for scum, so some townie points for the **Hal Briston** voters. Scum will want a PFK dead just like town and he started to look more PFK after his claim. So there might be a scum after those who voted after the claim (Millit and up). Of those **Hockey Monkey** had IMO the weakest reason (P4.137 nightmare color). I’ll be also be looking at the none voters (minus **Zeriel** because he simply made an invalid vote). ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/286 "2009-01-10T14:42:37Z")
NETA: I ended with zero votes, not two. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/287 "2009-01-10T15:11:39Z")
I was reading the BLAM thing as it happened. I was about to chime in once or twice then someone would say pretty much what I was going to so I was basically a very interested observer. I’m glad I didn’t change my vote because I’d have advocated letting Blam live an extra Day. I didn’t think he was likely scum (correct). I did think it possible he was pfk but didn’t for a moment think he could be another SK (very incorrect!). As I have no real suspicion of Hal I decided to keep my vote where it was on Hockey Monkey. Fortunately that seems to have been the right choice even though my reasons for doing so weren’t all that clever. And apologies for my poor participation level the last few days. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/288 "2009-01-10T15:21:17Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > I was reading the BLAM thing as it happened. I was about to chime in once or twice then someone would say pretty much what I was going to so I was basically a very interested observer. > > I’m glad I didn’t change my vote because I’d have advocated letting Blam live an extra Day. I didn’t think he was likely scum (correct). I did think it possible he was pfk but didn’t for a moment think he could be another SK (very incorrect!). > > As I have no real suspicion of Hal I decided to keep my vote where it was on Hockey Monkey. > > Fortunately that seems to have been the right choice even though my reasons for doing so weren’t all that clever. > > And apologies for my poor participation level the last few days. I’m failing to comprehend this post. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/289 "2009-01-10T15:55:07Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > Scum will want a PFK dead just like town and he started to look more PFK after his claim. So there might be a scum after those who voted after the claim (Millit and up). Of those **Hockey Monkey** had IMO the weakest reason (P4.137 nightmare color). Of course, scum already knew **Blaster Master** was not scum, so his lurking also gave a good excuse to vote for him. So the distinction I make here isn’t true, because it also gave town another reason to vote. So just the observation that the BlaM voters probably have a scum among them. About half the players voted for him at some point, so it doesn’t narrow it down much. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/290 "2009-01-10T19:12:00Z")
Alright, this is gonna sound weird, but with the deadbeats out of the way and the Skanky Vampire dead, I figure there probably won’t be negative consequences. Is there anyone looking to “sex someone up”? Because another mason (not me) is > [@](#): > > …unusually attractive in a physical sense…and not especially picky in his or her choice of mates. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/291 "2009-01-10T19:45:31Z")
Yes, that is weird and raises a lot of questions. Do you not know who the other masons are and only have descriptions of them? Does that mean **Pleonast** and the other masons probably also don’t know you’re a mason for sure and might not have counter claimed because of that? Why not post the complete text? How many other hints you got? If no others, why not post your whole role PM (it _does_ seem to look pretty cool)? Did we lose valuable hints when PLEONAST, the Sorority Treasurer, a Pro-Town Mason, met a most heinous [end](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=499245)? Are there Anti-Town Masons? Was you question rhetorical or are you asking someone to claim? ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/292 "2009-01-10T19:50:43Z")
NETA: that should be your question. For reference, **pedescribe** ’s [deadbeat post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10613556&postcount=265). ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/293 "2009-01-10T20:00:15Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > Yes, that is weird and raises a lot of questions. > Do you not know who the other masons are and only have descriptions of them? > Does that mean **Pleonast** and the other masons probably also don’t know you’re a mason for sure and might not have counter claimed because of that? > Why not post the complete text? > How many other hints you got? If no others, why not post your whole role PM (it _does_ seem to look pretty cool)? > Did we lose valuable hints when PLEONAST, the Sorority Treasurer, a Pro-Town Mason, met a most heinous [end](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=499245)? Are there Anti-Town Masons? > > Was you question rhetorical or are you asking someone to claim? …No, I’m being completely literal. All of the masons knew each other at the beginning of the game, and immediately pooled all our information. As far as I know, there are no anti-town masons. Pleonast, the Treasurer, knew about the two deadbeats. Our Vice President, who will come out in due time, is particularly hot. I’m not going to give any more information to you for the same reason I didn’t indulge macey. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/294 "2009-01-10T20:29:11Z")
Hmm, actually seems you just did tell what **macey** asked :(. I misunderstood your question: I thought you were looking for the attractive mason, because you didn’t knew him or her. But now I see you meant you are asking if someone else is looking for an attractive, yet easy person. Not sure how that helps us though (interpreting ‘not especially picky’ as not minding about town or scum), but I guess you left out something that might. Anyway, it’s not me. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/295 "2009-01-10T20:41:53Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Alright, this is gonna sound weird, but with the deadbeats out of the way and the Skanky Vampire dead, I figure there probably won’t be negative consequences. > > Is there anyone looking to “sex someone up”? > > Because another mason (not me) is I have never watch a horror movie (they really scare me) - but I believe all “sex someone up” in horror movies leads to the “sinner” being dead. I think the mason might have some sort of fragility - (s)he might be vulnerable to some sort of attack. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/296 "2009-01-10T21:47:23Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > NETA: that should be your question. For reference, **pedescribe** ’s [deadbeat post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10613556&postcount=265). This is in the “deadbeat” post: > [@](#): > > \you know that 25 people are students in the area. Since 27 people are present, that means two of them are crashers. You assume the Deadites will have taken the place of genuine students, so the question of who the two deadbeats might be remains an open one for the time being.\ If this is accurate an accurate quote from **story** , it seems to imply that Deadites might be our only Scum. Though it remains possible that there are Scum other than Deadites. I think with **bufftabby** being a dead vampire and also posthumously being labeled a deadite by story, it seems deadite is synonymous with Scum, especially considering our win condition. It doesn’t really mean that there are only 2 PFK’s. It seems to imply that there are 2 PFKs who are going to not be ‘students’ like Fred and the Pred. Other PFK _could_ also appear to be as students. That’s not discounted. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/297 "2009-01-10T23:36:02Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > Hmm, actually seems you just did tell what **macey** asked :(. > I misunderstood your question: I thought you were looking for the attractive mason, because you didn’t knew him or her. But now I see you meant you are asking if someone else is looking for an attractive, yet easy person. > > Not sure how that helps us though (interpreting ‘not especially picky’ as not minding about town or scum), but I guess you left out something that might. Anyway, it’s not me. Oh. ☹ Well, now that the cat’s out of the bag, I’ll have you know that I am the Sorority Treasurer, and my power is that I can slip up the records and move one of my fellow masons’ votes to someone else. I haven’t used this power because I’m not very arrogant. I’d post my role PM, but it wouldn’t really help anything. ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/298 "2009-01-11T01:59:46Z")
I thought **Pleonast** was the Treasurer. Did you mis-type that? Not that I’m fishing for more info; I just think you might have meant something else. Like Secretary? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/299 "2009-01-11T02:01:45Z")
Yeah, I meant secretary. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/300 "2009-01-11T02:04:38Z")
You’re kinda making me glad we didn’t have some sort of clandestine hand-off between you and BLaM there, pede. And I mean that in a “I-think-you’re-on-my-side-but-I-would-find-anyone-else-to-carry-any-explosives-because-you-might-innocently-trip-over-something-and-blow-us-all-up” kind of way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155.md?page=16)