# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 6, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155 "2009-01-06T23:54:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/21 "2009-01-07T17:53:06Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > The fact that no-one other then a mason and I (and kinda Brewha) are really trying to get Cookies lynched is another reason that I think I’m right here. Particularly, since there isn’t an obvious other target, so any scum could be at risk. I’ll be honest. I’d be happy to string up Cookies. Between her dispute with you and defense of Macey, I think she is the most potentially scummy. But, I’m willing to play along with NAF’s strategy for now. We NAF does get off’d, we will be able to lynch Cookies with confidence or put her on the definitely town list. I’m willing to wait - but not more than a couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/22 "2009-01-07T17:54:55Z")
NETA - “We” = “When” ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/23 "2009-01-07T18:20:25Z")
Jsexton, I can go dig up references if you need, but it looks like others have noticed the amrussell smudges too. I think my vote would be on Cookies at this point, but it looks like the consensus is to let NAF have a whack at her, so I’m not voting there. Unfortunately, thats my only strong feel. In the interest of not doing what I just called out several other posters for :D, I don’t wanna rattle off a list of who I think is slightly scummy. I’m neck deep in the offboard game right now, but I’ll do my best to see if I can dig something up. I haven’t seen anybody look at the vote timing on the Macey lynch, so I’ll peek there first, if I’m not beaten to it. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/24 "2009-01-07T18:26:34Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > I’ll be honest. I’d be happy to string up Cookies. Between her dispute with you and defense of Macey, I think she is the most potentially scummy. > > But, I’m willing to play along with NAF’s strategy for now. > > We NAF does get off’d, we will be able to lynch Cookies with confidence or put her on the definitely town list. I’m willing to wait - but not more than a couple of days. Then who do we lynch instead? Naf can investigate anyone. There is no advantage of him investigating Cookies over any other player. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/25 "2009-01-07T18:31:05Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > Then who do we lynch instead? Naf can investigate anyone. There is no advantage of him investigating Cookies over any other player. What about my information on Total Lost? ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/26 "2009-01-07T18:34:48Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > What about my information on Total Lost? Lynching you gets that information all the same. In fact it gets it from Story instead of Naf, a source I would trust a bit more. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/27 "2009-01-07T18:49:44Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > Then who do we lynch instead? Naf can investigate anyone. There is no advantage of him investigating Cookies over any other player. The argument is that investigating Cookies has the potential to give us a two-fer (Total Lost). ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/28 "2009-01-07T18:53:32Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > Then who do we lynch instead? Because, of course, there is only one player in the game who is even worth considering lynching. :smack: I still think my case against MHaye has some merrit, but I think that there are a couple of other better cases out there. I need to go look at Night 2 and Day 3 again and I will attempt to do so dispasionatly. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/29 "2009-01-07T18:55:42Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > The argument is that investigating Cookies has the potential to give us a two-fer (Total Lost). An advantage also gotten by investigating anyone else. Lynch Cookies and have Naf investigate another player. If Cookies and said player come up town, there are your two confirmed non-deadites assuming Naf comes up town. If Naf isn’t town you still get one confirmed instead of the zero you would get otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/30 "2009-01-07T18:56:29Z")
Ok, so I guess y’all are going to talk about how scummy I am, and how you really want to lynch me all Day, NAF will (someday) come back with some sort of result that is not going to be conclusive unless he’s killed (regardless of what his choice ends up being unless I’ve missed something) and the Day will end with my name in blue a bunch of times, and for all of the pining over who a good candidate to lynch might be instead of me, that won’t be a topic of discussion anyway. At least I can start looking at some people and how the reveal of my Townieness might impact their standing. 1. TL will be confirmed as “not Deadite”, and her reaction to my information has me leaning toward a possible PFK at this point. 2. Hawkeyeop will be confirmed as a stubborn mostly-dead Townie (pot, kettle…) 3. Rapier and brewha will have some black eyes over their sloppy/skim votes for me earlier in the game 4. Amrussel may have tipped his hand as to some perfect knowledge in his professed fears that both Hawkeyeop and I are Town 5. NAF - full of unconfirmable null tells. He was suspicious of me in the beginning, still might be suspicious of me but wants to keep me alive long enough to try and confirm something in the world of himself, myself, and Total Lost…or is he just trying to keep me around long enough to continue to keep distracting everyone from hunting scum? For all of those willing to vote for me right now, if you’ll do me and the rest of the Town the honor of summarizing your case, it would be greatly appreciated. Are you a member of the honorable-but-wrong Hawkeyeop school of thought still trying to see? Or are you more concerned with the contents of my role PM? Or is there something else about me that is just rubbing you the wrong way? ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/31 "2009-01-07T19:00:27Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Because, of course, there is only one player in the game who is even worth considering lynching. :smack: > > I still think my case against MHaye has some merrit, but I think that there are a couple of other better cases out there. I need to go look at Night 2 and Day 3 again and I will attempt to do so dispasionatly. No I’m okay with lynching you too 😉 And AmRussell and maybe Almost Human, though that case I haven’t looked into that closely yet. She is just pinging me a bit. The point is if the town believes Cookies is the most suspicious player they should lynch her today. There is no advantage to waiting for you. Mhaye is playing like Mhaye does, perhaps a little more so then usual. He hasn’t been very active or helpful, but I’m not sure that makes him likely to be scum. He is the type of player I think you should be investigating. One that we don’t have much evidence on otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/32 "2009-01-07T19:27:17Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > The argument is that investigating Cookies has the potential to give us a two-fer (Total Lost). Except it doesn’t. If storyteller wanted to give Cookies knowledge that a player was town, he would have done so. “Total Lost is town-aligned.” He didn’t do that. He left wiggle room. Why? Two choices: - Story is an evil bastard mod who wants us to make the wrong decision. - Story is a clever guy who want to make us put puzzle pieces together. I think it’s the latter, and I think the latter implies that Total Lost is not town. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/33 "2009-01-07T20:04:32Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Except it doesn’t. If storyteller wanted to give Cookies knowledge that a player was town, he would have done so. “Total Lost is town-aligned.” > > He didn’t do that. He left wiggle room. Why? Two choices: > > - Story is an evil bastard mod who wants us to make the wrong decision. > - Story is a clever guy who want to make us put puzzle pieces together. > > I think it’s the latter, and I think the latter implies that Total Lost is not town. And I knew this would come up (and I’m sorry **Cookie** but I think a part of me voting for you was a “OMGUS”-vote). This is all WiFoM: If NAF is scum - then what ever he says about me and **Cookie** will benefit scum If Cookie is PFK or Scum - she would be able to be “confirmed” if she had any informations about me Then we could talk about: What if NAF and I were scum together - using COOKIE to comfirm me It will never end! Let’s play mafia (!) - a “confirmed” Town don’t really exist. We hope **Pede** is a mason. But we don’t know 100% for sure because the only truely confirmed town… is a dead town. So would you all please stop trying to “confirm” me - it’s not possible before I die (or when first NAF is dead (if he turns up town) and then COOKIE is dead (and also town)… and then I might be “confirmed” but we would for sure just find an other WiFoM before that). I’m town - but no way can we confirm that now! ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/34 "2009-01-07T20:06:30Z")
Confirmed Via Death (copy-pasted from the Day/Night reveals): MACEY, The Prince of Blades, a Deadite (Scum) Strongman BUFFTABBY, the Skanky Vampire Demon, a Scum Roleblocker PLEONAST, the Sorority Treasurer, a pro-Town mason HAWKEYEOP, an Alpha Redshirt PEEKERCPA, The Predator, a Third-Party Serial Killer CHUCARA, a Beta Redshirt DIGGITCAMARA, The Inquisitive Fool, a pro-Town something-or-other Claimed: \*pedescribe, mason (more or less confirmed) \*dotchan, Alpha Redshirt \*zeriel, vanilla town of some stripe \*ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies - “Ash” (not THAT Ash), also claims to have special information that TotalLost is not a deadite \*NAF, variant detective (can get “true”, “false”, or “inconclusive” on statements) Investigation results from NAF: - Hawkeyeop - “I am pro-Town” - True - Millit - “I would be fine to truthfully claim” - Woof? - Chucara - “I am an Alpha Redshirt” - False (I think I may have missed a few there.) Meanwhile, let’s play Mafia! And since story doesn’t seem interested in replacing or modkilling Blaster Master, who was last seen posting “I’m not dead” somewhere around Night Two-ish, **vote Blaster Master** Because he hasn’t given us any data points to analyze at all and the couple of times he was online didn’t offer up any plausible explanation as to why he hasn’t been playing. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/35 "2009-01-07T20:09:04Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > No I’m okay with lynching you too 😉 And AmRussell and maybe Almost Human, though that case I haven’t looked into that closely yet. She is just pinging me a bit. The point is if the town believes Cookies is the most suspicious player they should lynch her today. There is no advantage to waiting for you. If town does. It doesn’t seem that town does, it just seems that one townie, one probably townie and you who are dead think she should be lynched. A few others have said maybe, but other than that… I am all set up so if Cookies is lynched Zeriel will be investigated instead. That isn’t my problem with lynching Cookies anymore. I took a step back and realized that most of my other arguments against it were selfish. But so are your’s and they leave out some large bits of potentially excuplatory evidence, such as…she requested to be investigated by me on pain of my own lynch. Now that doesn’t mean anything to you, but to me that is a big + is the probably town collumn. You can’t trust that, fine, but I can’t vote for her knowing that I am being honest and that she wants me to investigate her based on your case Hawk. The rest of the case against her, the case that Pede and TL are pushing, is terrible. I am just putting that out there. > [@](#): > > Mhaye is playing like Mhaye does, perhaps a little more so then usual. He hasn’t been very active or helpful, but I’m not sure that makes him likely to be scum. He is the type of player I think you should be investigating. One that we don’t have much evidence on otherwise. Sure, if I live long enough I will investigate him. Untill then I think he is a worthwhile lynch. He isn’t playing like himself. His anaylsis is spot on usually, and in the case I presented against him I pointed out where he did analysis that left out large bits of evedence against the players lynch in order to place what boiled down to a “me too” vote on a townie. This coming from a player who has happily let a Day end without a vote at all because he didn’t see any case strong enough makes me wonder. In fact, just for the record **vote MHaye** It probably won’t stay there, since it isn’t an airtight case and I am hoping to find one that is a little more solid, but for now I think it is worth while. I am suspicious of amrussel too, as I said. It is all based on his reactions to unexpected events though and I really do need to anylize them more to be able to say if it is anything worth persuing. Had Nanook not stepped on my bait before I might have gotten some helpfull additional information out of him, but what’s done is done. I am not too fond of Nanook’s play right there either, throw him on my list too. 😉 I am not entirely unserious though. People who are calling me out for piddly shit are suspect, since scum know that I am potentially very dangerous and would probably like to try to get me lynched early if they can. I don’t know that Nanook is really the best example of this, I am just still a little steamed that he stepped on my play like that.😛 BlaM has forgotten about the game it would seem. To me this says town more than not. And likely vanilla. Yes, we have had a case of scum forgetting that they were playing, but that isn’t really BlaM’s style. He is usually a bit more committed when he is scum. Metagaming? Yes, but why not metagame a bit?I would like to see him subbed if possible. You don’t have to respond Story, I just want to make sure you see it. > [@JSexton](#): > > I think it’s the latter, and I think the latter implies that Total Lost is not town. I don’t disagree, but we would also know she isn’t scum. And that is as important as anything. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/36 "2009-01-07T20:33:20Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > BlaM has forgotten about the game it would seem. To me this says town more than not. And likely vanilla. Yes, we have had a case of scum forgetting that they were playing, but that isn’t really BlaM’s style. He is usually a bit more committed when he is scum. Metagaming? Yes, but why not metagame a bit? It might indicate town, sure. But that’s pretty dangerous. I feel that if Blam was going to be replaced, it would have happened by now. So how long do we wait? What happens if we think we’re at LyLo, and don’t have any solid cases? Hell, assume Blam is town, and has been investigated as such. If we get to LyLo with a player permanently absent, then all he does is increase the vote threshold without being able to supply a vote. That could cost us the game if the scum pile on a single player. And that’s best case where he’s town. If he’s scum, it’s even worse. No, if Story isn’t planning on replacing him, then we need to deal with him. If not by lynch, then by vig. We’ve got some time before it becomes necessary, but we can’t lose sight of it. > [@](#): > > I don’t disagree, but we would also know she isn’t scum. And that is as important as anything. No, we don’t. We don’t know that all scum are deadites. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/37 "2009-01-07T20:39:27Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > It might indicate town, sure. But that’s pretty dangerous. I feel that if Blam was going to be replaced, it would have happened by now. So how long do we wait? What happens if we think we’re at LyLo, and don’t have any solid cases? > > Hell, assume Blam is town, and has been investigated as such. If we get to LyLo with a player permanently absent, then all he does is increase the vote threshold without being able to supply a vote. That could cost us the game if the scum pile on a single player. And that’s best case where he’s town. If he’s scum, it’s even worse. > > No, if Story isn’t planning on replacing him, then we need to deal with him. If not by lynch, then by vig. We’ve got some time before it becomes necessary, but we can’t lose sight of it. Agreed. Though I think that the vig is the better option. We are ahead by a little bit right now in terms of caught vs. mislynches, I would rather not lose the initiative by wasting a lynch on a lurker. So it would be nice to have BlaM vigged or\*\* even better subbed or mod killed\*\*. I won’t tell the vig what to do though, since I get yelled at for leading the town around by the nose. > [@](#): > > No, we don’t. We don’t know that all scum are deadites. Let me make sure we are using the same terms. deadite=mafia mafia=scum Third Party=not town but also not scum. Maybe dangerous to town (like an SK) maybe neutral (like a survivor). PFK= The dangerous variety of Third Party players. It seems to me we have a failure to communicate. Help me out. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/38 "2009-01-07T20:50:31Z")
Open of Day One, vote count: pedescribe (1) – Pleonast Pleonast (1) – Natlaw D1.3, Jsexton votes Pleonast D1.35, Pleonast unvotes Pedescribe D1.62, Almost Human votes Pedescribe D1.70, Natlaw unvotes Pleonast D1.71, Bufftabby votes Pedescribe D1.78, Hawkeye votes Pedescribe D1.80, Thing Fish votes Pleonast D1.83, Diggit votes Pedescribe D1.87, Storyteller posts a vote count: pedescribe (4) - Almost Human, bufftabby, hawkeyeop, diggitcamara Pleonast (2) - JSexton, Thing Fish D1.90, Cookies votes for JSexton D1.102, Total Lost votes for Thing Fish D1.104, Special Ed votes for Thing Fish D1.112, Special Ed unvotes Thing Fish D1.113, Hockey Monkey votes JSexton D1.114, Pedescribe votes Thing Fish D1.120, Diggit unvotes Pedescribe D1.121, Almost Human unvotes Pedescribe D1.124, Natlaw votes for Diggit D1.125, amrussell votes for Peeker D1.129, Storyteller vote count: pedescribe (2) - bufftabby, hawkeyeop Pleonast (2) - JSexton, Thing Fish JSexton (2) - CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, Hockey Monkey Thing Fish (2) - Total Lost, pedescribe Diggitcamara (1) - Natlaw peekercpa (1) - amrussell D1.130, Brewha votes Macey D1.131, Hawkeye unvotes Pedescribe and votes Macey D1.132, Bufftabby unvotes Pedescribe D1.137, Hockey Monkey unvotes Jsexton and votes Macey D1.140, Special Ed votes Macey My vote count: Macey (4) - Brewha, Hawkeye, Hockey Monkey, Special Ed Pleonast (2) - JSexton, Thing Fish JSexton (1) - CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Thing Fish (2) - Total Lost, Pedescribe Diggitcamara (1) - Natlaw Peekercpa (1) - amrussell D1.150, NAF votes Chucara D1.158, Bufftabby votes Cookies D1.174, Dotchan votes Macey D1.176, Pleonast votes JSexton D1.177, JSexton unvotes Pleonast, votes Macey D1.187, Peeker votes Thing Fish D1.188, Pleonast unvotes JSexton and votes Thing Fish My vote count: Macey (6) - Brewha, Hawkeye, Hockey Monkey, Special Ed, Dotchan, JSexton Thing Fish (4) - Total Lost, Pedescribe, Peeker, Pleonast Pleonast (1) - Thing Fish JSexton (1) - Cookies Diggitcamara (1) - Natlaw Peekercpa (1) - amrussell Chucara (1) - NAF Cookies (1) - Bufftabby D1.189, Diggit votes for Chucara D1.190, Cookies unvotes JSexton and votes Blam D1.191, Pedescribe unvotes Thing Fish and votes Macey D1.193, amrussell unvotes Peeker and votes Rapier D1.194, Natlaw unvotes Diggit and votes Peeker D1.196, Chucara votes Thing Fish D1.206, Storytellers vote count: macey (7) - brewha, hawkeyeop, hockey monkey, special ed, dotchan, JSexton, pedescribe Thing Fish (4) - total lost, peekercpa, Pleonast, Chucara Chucara (2) - NAF1138, Diggitcamara Pleonast (1) - Thing Fish peekercpa (1) - Natlaw CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (1) - bufftabby Blaster Master (1) - CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Rapier42 (1) - amrussell D1.208, Almost Human votes Millet the Frail D1.209, Rapier votes Macey D1.210, Millet the Frail votes Macey D1.222, Almost Human unvotes Millet the Frail * * * ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/39 "2009-01-07T20:59:08Z")
Someone asked if anyone had analyzed the **macey** lynch. I did, on Day 2. I made 4 posts about it: [78](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10627675&postcount=78) [94](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10628309&postcount=94) [106–the “oops” post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10628826&postcount=106) [112](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10629115&postcount=112) Of course, we have better knowledge now, and I focused on everyone who did _not_ vote for **macey** , assuming that there would be more scum there. Maybe a poor assumption, but hey–it was only Day 2, and we can always look at the **macey** voters now. Most of my leads are either dead now. And then there’s **NAF** … I still believe **Cookies** is town, mainly because of what I said there. On **Total Lost** , I’m thinking PFK or town, but not scum. I may be naive, but I don’t think **story** would do that to us. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/40 "2009-01-07T21:12:22Z")
> [@amrussell](#): > > Night Two, Day Three > Not voting - Blaster Master, Nanook, Hockey Monkey, JSexton, dotchan, Cookies, Diggit Camara > Voted but finished with no vote - NAF You’re missing **Zeriel** and **Hal Briston** not voting Day Three. I tried to do some analysis but didn’t get much except for the none voters you mention (plus Zeriel). I think scum wouldn’t go bandwagon each day, but a town doesn’t have to either. I don’t think these three days have enough votes to see patterns in it, just use someone’s votes to support a case. > [@dotchan about claims](#): > > (I think I may have missed a few there.) Not much according to my notes, I got some extra minor things. I have pedescribe as confirmed because **Pleonast** (a mason) called for masons to counter-claim if he was lying (unless **Story** made pedescribe some sort of traitor mason). So move knows thing from pedescribe to claims if you think that :). _Known things_: There are two third-party players according to **pedescribe** ’s role PM. Masons do not have an Alpha/Beta split up according to pedescribe. **CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** is not mason according to **pedescribe**. **peekercpa** killed **bufftabby** Night One and got two points for it. **bufftabby** burned to complete dead Day Three. **DiggitCamara** asked **Thing Fish** Night Two if he found scum: Yes, but someone he didn’t interact with. **DiggitCamara** asked **Thing Fish** Night Three who he investigated: **bufftabby**. _Claims_: **Total Lost** knows nothing of Cookies birthmark. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155.md?page=3)