# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT NINE

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 2, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169 "2009-02-02T23:25:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/201 "2009-02-08T02:04:34Z")

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**INT A THEATRE IN NEW JERSEY**

_A frazzled, exhausted human being slumps low in a chair. He has just seen the fourteenth person audition with “Part of Your World” in this day alone. He is nearly insane. He turns to the camera._

ME  
The Night is over. No one has died. Have fun.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/202 "2009-02-08T02:25:14Z")

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So, why would I not immediately post my PM? I needed enough suspicion from you guys so’s that I wouldn’t have to worry about being night killed.

If I had posted my PM, and everyone said hey brewha is town - and he can kill off the mostly dead deadites - yea!

Why wouldn’t the scum off me? If I cruise through the night with most of the town pissed at me, scum leave me alone.

So, here’s the deal. If we’re sure we can take out the final scum before 4 more undead deadites are created - lynch me today. I don’t want any more time wasted on discussing my towniness.

If theres a chance that another 5/5 scum will emerge, and I’m lynched, I don’t know what will happen.

And before someone blurts out that I was blocked last night and there were no night kills - I see two options.

Either our doctor protected the right guy, or since my block was loudly broadcast, the scum got smart and figured that they could get the town to lynch me today by simply not killing last night.

If it’s the first option - way to go doc.

If it’s the second, we should look at who else was generating suspicion. It’s likely scum would only sit out a kill to work for the endgame and get the suspicion off themselves.

PM to follow in a separate post.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/203 "2009-02-08T02:27:05Z")

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I guess it’s not day/night nine anymore. I’ll post my PM as soon as there’s a day 10 thread.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/204 "2009-02-08T02:45:29Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> **INT A THEATRE IN NEW JERSEY**
> 
> _A frazzled, exhausted human being slumps low in a chair. He has just seen the fourteenth person audition with “Part of Your World” in this day alone. He is nearly insane. He turns to the camera._
> 
> ME  
> The Night is over. No one has died. Have fun.

Will the Day start? It’s eerie, this not Night not Day time

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/205 "2009-02-08T02:59:24Z")

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It looks like storyteller was too exhausted to make a separate post.

Also…Almost Human, it is vital that you understood what Total Lost was saying. What was she saying?!

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**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/206 "2009-02-08T03:28:32Z")

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> [@Total\_Lost](#):
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> I agree:
> 
> **Vote Brewha**

> [@Total\_Lost](#):
>
> Everyone will tell you - I like fun!  
> But you’re playing as a team - if you’re on PEDE’s team - the act like it!
> 
> Why do you think not posting your PM is pro-Town?  
> Why do you feel the need to “prove” a mason wrong?
> 
> If I could - **I would double-vote you right now!**

(bolding mine)

> [@Total\_Lost](#):
>
> I did PM Story about Night Nine… but I’m not sure it it’ll will do town any good if I can’t say who I blocked…
> 
> I’m not good at breadcrumbs and scum can pick that up as well as anyone else.
> 
> So here goes:  
> **AH** - I think you’re Town and I’ll trust you and say this:
> 
> The game on FB - the first ever where you were the mod - I was killed and turned into the Buffybot… I did try to say things without really saying them.
> 
> I have done this the same way toNight

OK so in the Buffy game Total Lost played Buffy. When she was Night Killed she didn’t die but came back as the Buffybot. She wasn’t allowed to talk strategy but could only fluff and vote. To get around this slightly she’d vote often during the Day to indicate when she found someone suspicious.

Now I can’t be 100% certain but I think her post saying she’d vote for brewha twice if she could was her way of saying he was the one she’d be blocking last Night.

So if I’m right and she did block Brewha that would explain the no NK.

> [@brewha](#):
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> I guess it’s not day/night nine anymore. I’ll post my PM as soon as there’s a day 10 thread.

You can post your pm any time you like - stop prevaricating!

For the record, although I do think brewha’s scum it’s also quite possible scum decided not to kill toNight to make sure we lynched brewha toDay. I still think we should lynch him though - we can afford to make a mistake I think.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/207 "2009-02-08T03:53:07Z")

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Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/208 "2009-02-08T04:07:16Z")

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And just in case something weird happened…

**Vote brewha** again!

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/209 "2009-02-08T04:13:07Z")

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**vote brewha**

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/210 "2009-02-08T04:16:43Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> **vote brewha**

sorry I’ve been so quiet. I think I used up most of my posting quota for the month on the off board site.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/211 "2009-02-08T05:48:21Z")

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> [@Almost\_Human](#):
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> You can post your pm any time you like - stop prevaricating!

You can use all the big and fancy words you’d like. I said I’d post my PM in the morning. Which means day 10. I’ve yet to see a day 10 thread. I’m not avoiding the truth - I was merely avoiding the possibility of a night kill. At this point I’m doubting that posting my role PM will do anything to satiate the foaming mouths that are crying for my blood. But, I’ll do it anyway. Here’s my first role PM:

> [@](#):
>
> You are the Sketchy Seminary Student
> 
> ALIGNMENT: Town  
> GENERIC: Special  
> WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
> 
> Every party needs an uptight, prissy, moralizing, socially-phobic pain in the ass; that’s why they invited you. But you’re glad to be here. A debauched sorority party, drenched in alcohol, unhealthy eating, and blatant disregard for the age-old rules of formal courtship, is the perfect place for you to practice your twin specialties: preaching and judging.
> 
> In fact, winning back lost souls for the Lord you brought a friend with you tonight to aid in your cause–a holy man of the cloth, whose faith has recently become, let’s say, a little shaky. You’re all about efficiency here, so you have two things on your mind: as a team, you can reach out to a greater number of sin-soaked partygoers, and should you happen to defeat supreme evil this weekend, perhaps your wayward friend’s faith will be restored. Good thing you’ve got your dog-eared Bible in hand. And that you’ve been hard at work studying the ancient rituals of the early Church…
> 
> After all, the power of Christ compels you!
> 
> POWERS:
> 
> Due to your years of study, you are well-versed in the normal set of holy rites and prayers. Your commitment to your calling runs deeper, though, and you’ve spent more than your fair share of weekend nights working on some “extra credit” at a back room table at the library, reading hoary old tomes by candlelight. Speaking in tongues, casting out demons, the stigmata…it’s all old hat to you. You’re a soldier of the cross, and you’re pumped and ready to unsheath your sword and do battle with otherworldly evil. However, you’re not yet sure what you’ll find, so your resources are currently limited.
> 
> 1. Personal Holiness: So secure are you in your faith that you can face even the most severe temptation without failing. This power is a personal quality and is in effect now and for as long as you remain alive.

After the revelation that undead deadites would be a part of this game, I got a second PM. This one outlined how I could use these “undeadites” to benefit the town. The last of these powers, I used yesterday.

> [@](#):
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> 1. Exorcism: This is a Day power. It may be used at any time before Dusk to vanquish a Deadite composed of 5 undead Deadites. Due to the holiness of this power, it can only be used on a day without any deaths. Therefore, any time this power is used, all actions that would have resulted in a death from Dawn until Dusk of that day will be nullified. You can only use this power twice in the course of the game.

I’ve apparently spat in the face and pissed in the cheerios of all that is holy in the mafia realm. Lynch me today - I really don’t care. Here’s what worries me - I don’t know what causes an undead deadite to be created. Sometimes it’s lynched deadites - sometimes it is not. Sometimes it happens as result of a NK, sometimes it doesn’t. But, worst case scenario, I’ll become an undeadite after my lynch. Tonight’s NK will become one as well. If tomorrow we don’t get the last scum, tomorrow night could end with another 5/5 undeadite scum.

I’d really rather be around to vanquish that 5/5 undeadite. But, OTOH, I’d kinda like to see Pede get the “Rapier’s Bitch” sig. So, it’s kinda a horse a piece for me. Really, though, it’s outta my hands at this point.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/212 "2009-02-08T13:19:29Z")

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Well, there’s a lot to chew on here:

> [@brewha](#):
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> I’ve apparently spat in the face and pissed in the cheerios of all that is holy in the mafia realm. Lynch me today - I really don’t care. Here’s what worries me - I don’t know what causes an undead deadite to be created. Sometimes it’s lynched deadites - sometimes it is not. Sometimes it happens as result of a NK, sometimes it doesn’t. But, worst case scenario, I’ll become an undeadite after my lynch. Tonight’s NK will become one as well. If tomorrow we don’t get the last scum, tomorrow night could end with another 5/5 undeadite scum.

First, I don’t like the “oh well, go ahead and lynch me” lines. I don’t like them whenever I see them, but I especially don’t like them when they’re coupled with “Ooh, you’d better not lynch me just in case”. “Oh well, go ahead and lynch me” is what scum say when they don’t want to put up an actual defence. For example, see Millit when she had her head on the chopping block.

Secondly, the doomsayer predictions of dire consequences don’t hang together. They smack of brewha using FUD to get us second guessing. Here’s why: There are only two events in the game that have ever caused the creation of undead: lynching a scum and NKing an Alpha. Lynching town has never created undead. NKing Beta has never created an undead. It took the combined efforts of scum, SKs and town 7 Day/Night cycles to create 5/5 undead. Now we’re being threatened with it happening in two Days? There is one scum, and one Alpha left in the game. In the worst case scenario, let’s say there are two scum and one Alpha. That’s 3/5, plus the 1/5 we’ve already got. It stretches credulity to suggest that there are 4 potential undead still in the game; still more to suggest that all the dominoes will fall by tomorrow Night.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/213 "2009-02-08T14:30:03Z")

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Do we really have enough to go on to be so sure only betas can create undead deadites?

And I wasn’t saying that it will happen in two day/night cycles. I said that it could happen - that’s what the ‘worst case scenario’ disclaimer meant.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/214 "2009-02-08T16:06:54Z")

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Why are you called a “Sketchy Seminary Student” if you’re the most faithful person here? Why did your PM obliquely mention Thing Fish, and ‘working as a team’, and yet not mention who he was? Why didn’t storyteller just include all the info at the beginning and make knowing about the unDeadites part of your power? If you’re so holy (which, judging by the virginal beauty, seems to indicate NK resistance), then why didn’t you post your role PM earlier? Are you really claiming unnightkillability _and_ lynch resistance? Why on earth leave off two powers at this point? I mean really, what harm would it be to add them? Why are you acting like you don’t understand why we’re suspicious of you?

…and assuming you’re telling the truth…

Who do you suspect?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/215 "2009-02-08T16:15:46Z")

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OK, earlier, I noticed a difference in **Zeriel** ’s posted role PM.

When tested, it was shown to be caused by the use of different browsers.

ToDay, however, I’d like to point out **brewha** ’s role PM.

Every other role PM started with “Welcome to the game; you are…”

**brewha** ’s just starts with “You are…”

It really seems like \*\*story \*\*was using a template to create the role PMs. Though, I"d also think the Scum would get the same welcome we got.

So, what does it mean?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/216 "2009-02-08T16:18:49Z")

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One more question: Why is there color after the powers section?

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**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/217 "2009-02-08T16:42:20Z")

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The PM hasn’t changed my mind. I’m really not happy about the lying (I can only do this when I know Town is going to be lynched!), Brewha could have done this any Day he wanted.

My vote stands, and just in case:  
**Vote Brewha**.

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**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/218 "2009-02-08T16:44:35Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> I needed enough suspicion from you guys so’s that I wouldn’t have to worry about being night killed.

What exactly does your Personal Holiness power do then, Brewha?

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**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/219 "2009-02-08T16:58:48Z")

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brewha - I don’t believe you.

**vote brewha**

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/220 "2009-02-08T19:01:05Z")

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> [@Almost\_Human](#):
>
> brewha - I don’t believe you.
> 
> **vote brewha**

Has Day 10 started and no one invited me?

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