# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT ONE **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 19, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854 "2008-12-19T03:11:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Chucara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Chucara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chucara)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/221 "2008-12-23T22:48:17Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > It’s about the Alpha/Beta thing. He is one of the few people that was pushing for Alpha/Beta reveals. Well.. I don’t know if I’m exactly pushing for alpha/beta reveals, but I am pushing for a discussion of it. It is once again a “plan” that isn’t exactly thought through, so once again, I’ll just throw out my ideas: By having everyone claim either alpha or beta, we’d divide the town in two parts. Given the following assumptions: 1 - claims are made in random order 2 - scum will likely try to claim 50% Alpha, 50% Beta 3 - PFKs have no idea where to claim unless chosen last 4 - Town power roles have A/B status as well 5 - There are 50% Alpha and 50% Beta in town There are two possible outcomes: - One group is larger than the other by 2 people or more - Both groups are the same size (+/- 1 person) Now, if one group is larger than the other, there will be at least one more scum or pfk hiding in that group. If they are the same size, and we eventually kill two scum/pfks from that group, odds are that there are 1-3 scum/pfk in the other group as well. Personally, I see this as a potentially huge help for town in the end game, but it does require that we get the A/B status before people die, thus my eagerness to get it discussed today, or at least tomorrow. If we do it when we have a lot of people dead, the value of doing it will be decreased. I can’t really see any problem with this unless a PFK (or scum for that matter) has a WC of killing/revealing all Alphas (or Betas). There is a problem with the viability of the theory, as I think assumptions 4 and 5 are perhaps taking it too far. By all means, suspect my motives for advocating this, but please discuss it as well. I ensure that I have only the best interests of town in mind, but you won’t find out until I’m either dead or confirmed otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/222 "2008-12-23T22:52:00Z")
Damn, the site took ages to come back. > [@Millit\_the\_Frail](#): > > And while I was voting, it seems I’ve been voted for! > > I’m a waffler, and I tend to write like I think. That’s what makes me bad at these games! (But I still like to play…) I see we’ve been giving resumes of our previous Mafia experience, and mine is short: Mafia 3 and Recruitment. I won with town in both games, but they was \>6 months ago and \>1 year ago, and I’m sure most of you don’t know my posting style. I have trouble committing to anything early on, I admit it. > > (Out Of Game Hat On: I’m already tired of seeing “that’s just his style” as an excuse around here, because it puts players like me at a disadvantage. Maybe that’s a suspicious thing for me to say, as being able to spot changes in style is Pro-Town, but it makes it less fun for players like me, who only play once in a blue moon and haven’t made it to the inside circle where everyone knows my posting style and general demeanor. I’ll deal, though, because there’s no way around it. Hat Off.) > > For what it’s worth, I can address the middle comments: I still don’t see how an Alpha/Beta claim (Yeah, I called it a mass roleclaim. That was inaccurate and I said so myself.) will help us. **Pedescribe** hasn’t said whether Masons have Alpha/Beta status, and even if he does, we don’t know about the rest of the power roles. > > If they and other power roles don’t have Alpha/Beta status, they are going to be put into jeopardy by being forced to make something up. If they distribute themselves evenly by chance, there’s not a problem, I guess. If not, we’ve given some power roles less of a place to hide. > > If they and other power roles do have Alpha/Beta status, then what? Assuming they are distributed equally (Disclaimer: who knows? It would make sense though.) We’ve got two pools of possible power roles for the scum to pick from, and two pools for us to pick scum from. The point is that the scum aren’t going to slip up here. They will divide themselves as evenly as possible. > > Overall, it’s a potential loss and a potential gain. I suppose I was trying to say that it’s a risk that is, at best, a zero net positive or negative. We give away as much information as we receive. And at worst, it puts the power roles in a “tricky” situation. > > As far as the last comment, I did not, in any way, suggest that there were only two candidates! I came out in support of both of them pretty strongly, and I was just making a comment that it might not last. And I’m certainly not the only one who defended **pedescribe** on the basis of the “slip” being really flimsy. I really thought it was nothing. It turns out it was _something_–a power role slip, as a few people theorized…and thus we’ve unearthed a Mason. OK you’ve now explained clearly how you feel about Alpha/Beta claims. I wasn’t so much bothered about whether you were for or against it but rather wanted to know which it was. Now I do. Again - maybe it’s just your posting style then but it did sound as though you were to me. I see your point about getting used to someone’s style - it must have been annoying when I said that about macey. On the downside, it also means they may know you well enough to fool you. I’m not honestly sure whether the Day’s officially over or not but as we can post normally Day or Night, now you’ve responded I understand where you’re coming from better so \*\* unvote Millit the Frail\*\* > [@JSexton](#): > > What is that a reference to? Now you’ve got me because I can’t remember which game it was off the top of my head. I know it was on Idle’s offboard site though and it was something Roosh in particular used to say. At the time I assumed it was your name as it was the first game I’d read but perhaps it was a filter one of the mods had put up - wouldn’t surprise me. Maybe someone else remembers though. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/223 "2008-12-23T22:54:44Z")
> [@Chucara](#): > > Well.. I don’t know if I’m exactly pushing for alpha/beta reveals, but I am pushing for a discussion of it. It is once again a “plan” that isn’t exactly thought through, so once again, I’ll just throw out my ideas: > > By having everyone claim either alpha or beta, we’d divide the town in two parts. Given the following assumptions: > > 1 - claims are made in random order > 2 - scum will likely try to claim 50% Alpha, 50% Beta > 3 - PFKs have no idea where to claim unless chosen last > 4 - Town power roles have A/B status as well > 5 - There are 50% Alpha and 50% Beta in town > > There are two possible outcomes: > > - One group is larger than the other by 2 people or more > - Both groups are the same size (+/- 1 person) > > Now, if one group is larger than the other, there will be at least one more scum or pfk hiding in that group. > > If they are the same size, and we eventually kill two scum/pfks from that group, odds are that there are 1-3 scum/pfk in the other group as well. > > Personally, I see this as a potentially huge help for town in the end game, but it does require that we get the A/B status before people die, thus my eagerness to get it discussed today, or at least tomorrow. If we do it when we have a lot of people dead, the value of doing it will be decreased. > > I can’t really see any problem with this unless a PFK (or scum for that matter) has a WC of killing/revealing all Alphas (or Betas). There is a problem with the viability of the theory, as I think assumptions 4 and 5 are perhaps taking it too far. > > By all means, suspect my motives for advocating this, but please discuss it as well. I ensure that I have only the best interests of town in mind, but you won’t find out until I’m either dead or confirmed otherwise. I’m not dismissing the idea out of hand but your theory is based on the assumption that power roles have alpha/beta status. If they don’t then there’s a real possibility that the 2 or 3 extra people on one side are actually town power roles and not scum ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/224 "2008-12-23T22:57:45Z")
> [@Chucara](#): > > Well.. I don’t know if I’m exactly pushing for alpha/beta reveals, but I am pushing for a discussion of it. It is once again a “plan” that isn’t exactly thought through, so once again, I’ll just throw out my ideas: > > By having everyone claim either alpha or beta, we’d divide the town in two parts. Given the following assumptions: > > 1 - claims are made in random order > 2 - scum will likely try to claim 50% Alpha, 50% Beta > 3 - PFKs have no idea where to claim unless chosen last > 4 - Town power roles have A/B status as well > 5 - There are 50% Alpha and 50% Beta in town > > There are two possible outcomes: > > - One group is larger than the other by 2 people or more > - Both groups are the same size (+/- 1 person) > > Now, if one group is larger than the other, there will be at least one more scum or pfk hiding in that group. > > If they are the same size, and we eventually kill two scum/pfks from that group, odds are that there are 1-3 scum/pfk in the other group as well. > > Personally, I see this as a potentially huge help for town in the end game, but it does require that we get the A/B status before people die, thus my eagerness to get it discussed today, or at least tomorrow. If we do it when we have a lot of people dead, the value of doing it will be decreased. > > I can’t really see any problem with this unless a PFK (or scum for that matter) has a WC of killing/revealing all Alphas (or Betas). There is a problem with the viability of the theory, as I think assumptions 4 and 5 are perhaps taking it too far. > > By all means, suspect my motives for advocating this, but please discuss it as well. I ensure that I have only the best interests of town in mind, but you won’t find out until I’m either dead or confirmed otherwise. Should we assume then, that you are either: 1. Vanilla Town? 2. Scum? 3. PFK? because, it seems if you were a town power role, you’d KNOW if they had Alpha or Beta status. I suppose it is possible that you are a town power role and you’re trying not to admit to the status. You’re also assuming we have a 50/50 split on Alpha or Beta. Why are you making that assumption? But I’m left feeling that you’re still fishing for this information. It could very well be important information for either Scum or PFK. Perhaps certain Scum or PFK powers depend on the status of their intended victim. If this is the case, then a mass Alpha/Beta claim could be horrific for Town. We may get more information about how the status influences the game play. Until we’re relatively sure of that, I suggest we let this drop. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/225 "2008-12-23T23:07:40Z")
I don’t understand why people would assume there is an even split between Alpha and Beta status. Even if there were, then what would we do with the information from a disparity between the numbers of Alphas and Betas? I don’t see anything to gain from an A/B claim except the thrill of “you show me yours, I’ll show you mine”. Am I missing something? Og knows it wouldn’t be the first time. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/226 "2008-12-23T23:19:46Z")
Since the Alpla/Beta information is in the role name, I don’t think the information will be lost on death: [QUOTE=Vanilla Role PM] Welcome to the game; you are an Alpha [Beta] Redshirt [/QUOTE] The reason not to reveal it is that it could help scum or PFK, if they have powers that target alpha or beta exclusively. Town could have similar powers, but since we don’t know that it is better to wait until we get more information. All it would do now is force power roles, scum and PFK’s to possibly lie. But we cannot prove that they did so and scum would be better in analyzing patterns (if there are any), because they know more (who is scum and how scum lied or not about their a/b status)). ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/227 "2008-12-23T23:43:33Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Argh. If you (= **Thing Fish** ) doubt macey is scum, why vote for him? To teach him a lesson? That sort of vote loses games, and is a common tactic for scum to take to vote for town without taking responsibility for it. For the record, **Thing Fish** s vote is on **Pleonast**. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/228 "2008-12-24T00:08:42Z")
> [@Chucara](#): > > 1 - claims are made in random order > 2 - scum will likely try to claim 50% Alpha, 50% Beta > 3 - PFKs have no idea where to claim unless chosen last > 4 - Town power roles have A/B status as well > 5 - There are 50% Alpha and 50% Beta in town 4 is an invalid assumption. Because of this, 5 is also likely an invalid assumption. Because of this, I doubt massclaiming the alpha-beta status will net us anything. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/229 "2008-12-24T01:08:54Z")
Ai, **pede** , you know we just lynched **macey** because he asked for the information you just gave? Don’t spill information unless you need it to proof you’re town or it helps catching scum. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/230 "2008-12-24T01:33:39Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > Ai, **pede** , you know we just lynched **macey** because he asked for the information you just gave? Don’t spill information unless you need it to proof you’re town or it helps catching scum. I know, but I don’t want Chuc and the rest of the town to make a bad decision if I can help it. And I suspect I’m not impacting the scum when I say that **my role has no Alpha/Beta status**. ---
**Author:** ![Chucara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Chucara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chucara)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/231 "2008-12-24T02:13:22Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > I know, but I don’t want Chuc and the rest of the town to make a bad decision if I can help it. > > And I suspect I’m not impacting the scum when I say that **my role has no Alpha/Beta status**. Ok.. That kills of any benefit we might have had from this. Or rather: the risk of outing power roles (or pooling them together and possibly killing them) completely negates any positive effect of claiming. For my part, that therefore ends this discussion. I won’t be posting until the 25th, so Merry Christmas everyone! ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/232 "2008-12-24T03:10:50Z")
Come on! The suspense is killing me! Didn’t this day end like NINE hours ago? ::taps foot:: ::Looks around impatiently:: ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/233 "2008-12-24T04:58:56Z")
**EXT THE EDGE OF THE CORNFIELD - DUSK** _Pan across the faces of the assembled students, chanting._ STUDENTS (Variously) Corn-field! Corn-field! Corn-field! _They seize on MACEY, pull him roughly to his feet. He panics._ MACEY Hey, guys, what’s going on here? This is silly. This is ridiculous. I’m just the new guy, with ways different from your own. Unnecessary suspicion of a relative newcomer is a staple of all types of horror fiction, and it always gets the good guys into trouble. Think about it! _There is a brief pause. Close on the face of a random student._ STUDENT Lynch him! OTHER STUDENTS (Variously) Yeah! Do it! Lynch! Lynch! Yankees suck! HOOPY FROOD’S VOICE (From the wood chipper) Kill him! Yeah! MACEY You! You’re dead! HOOPY FROOD’S VOICE Hey, let’s not get _ahead_ of ourselves. MACEY Augh! _They shove him toward the waiting stalks of corn. Suddenly, MACEY stops. We see his back rise and fall as he pants in exertion. Close on MACEY’S SHADOW, which suddenly seems to be growing longer. Pan up MACEY’s body, until his head is in view; he turns toward the camera. His face looks like an everything pizza._ MACEY You want to get rough, fleshbags? I’ll say it. Let’s… get… dangerous. _A sword suddenly appears in his hand. His eyes narrow. Then, suddenly, we hear the SOUND OF CRACKING CORN STALKS from behind him. He spins around in terror, and the cornstalks part. MACEY is drawn among them._ MACEY No! Augh! No! Argh! Please! No, not using my _own leg!_ Heeeaaaauuugggh… _A pregnant pause. After a bit, the corn parts, and what is left of MACEY is ejected. It is a hand, clawed and still gripping a wicked curved dagger. It drops the dagger, and rises up onto its stump of a wrist. It begins making a variety of gestures, frantically. A girl steps forward._ HUMAN PLOT DEVICE Oh! I am fluent in American Sign Language! STUDENT How convenient and not at all forced! HUMAN PLOT DEVICE It says we must listen carefully, that it and it alone holds the key to our salvation. It says it has important advice to share. \*All look expectantly at the hand. The HAND OF MACEY gives them all the finger. HOOPY FROOD laughs from the woodchipper.\* * * * MACEY, The Prince of Blades, a Deadite (Scum) Strongman, has been lynched. And he’s mostly dead. But not all dead. He’s too dead for his vote to count. He’s way too dead to lynch, or to Night kill. He’s not too dead to talk, though. He’s definitely about four fifths dead. But four fifths dead is, of course, one fifth alive. And that fact will be taken into consideration when making any calculation regarding the number of Deadites still alive. Maybe you can find a way to get rid of that troublesome one-fifth. Time will tell. * * * Night One starts here. I am very tired and a little tipsy, so I’ll finish up the Dusk stuff tomorrow morning (including any PMs I owe anyone related to actions taken so far). In the meanwhile, all votes for MACEY are expunged; all other outstanding votes remain active. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/234 "2008-12-24T05:14:31Z")
Good job macey voters. Now I can’t get Billy Crystal out of my head. We can’t lynch him by day, we can’t Night kill him. He can’t vote but he can squawk away until we figure out how to kill him. So we’re ignoring him now? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/235 "2008-12-24T05:17:21Z")
Yeehaw! ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/236 "2008-12-24T08:15:55Z")
Just goes to show how wrong you can be. Good job guys. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/237 "2008-12-24T09:07:53Z")
Nice! On the downside, he’s only four-fifths dead, anyone familiar with Evil Dead how to permanently kill Deadites? On the upside, if there is a way to kill the last bit, we could shut up **Hoopy Frood** for good as well! 🆒 Would a Deadite Strongman be vanilla or does it refer to his hand staying alive or something else? Onto the **macey** votes, I don’t think it looks like a brilliant scum plan\*. So assuming it took scum by surprise, early voters are more likely to be town with maybe scum joining later. [Macey’s post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10604270&postcount=123) is followed by votes for others by me ( **Natlaw** ) and **amrussell**. I ask macey questions, amrussell explains masons on the SDMB. Two hours after macey’s post the votes start with **brewha** and **Hawkeyeop** , who both got FOS’ed by macey in return. If scum decided by now that macey was toast, that could be providing cover for either of them. But with only two votes yet, I don’t think that is the case\* (3 others with two votes, not counting pedescribe). No more posts by macey since then. **JSexton** did cast the sixth vote on macey, after which **peekercpa** and **Pleonast** pushed **Thing Fish** to four votes. **pedescribe** switched to make it 7-3. Other voters for maceys: Hockey Monkey, special ed, dotchan, JSexton, pedescribe, Rapier42, Millit the Frail Voters who completely ignored macey: bufftabby, peekercpa, DiggitCamara. Player without vote: MHaye (did promise one, probably caught by board outage), Blaster Master (no posts at all), Nanook of the North Shore (still traveling?), Zeriel (busy at work?, one post), Hal Briston, macey, Almost Human (technically vote on Millit but has already unvoted). I don’t think I can read much into it now (votes for **Thing Fish** have good reason imo), but with more information later it might contain some nuggets. \*) yes, yes, scum-would-never-do-that applies. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/238 "2008-12-24T10:24:59Z")
Uh, we got a scum on day one? The board inexplicably goes down. But the scum is only .8 dead. The peekkids went to bed at a reasonable time. There’s a fat bearded dude getting ready to fly around the world depositing gifts for everyone in one night. I am not over limit on any CCs (yet). There is still a half bottle of Cuervo in front of me. It must be time to say **Happy Holidays** to all. And **Unvote Jerry** One of the few parts of the movies that I remember was when Ash (I think) got his hand infected and had to chop it off because it was trying to kill him. For the life of me I can’t remember how he eventually killed the durn thing. Did he just stab it to death or was it tossed in the fire or something? ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/239 "2008-12-24T10:44:34Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > One of the few parts of the movies that I remember was when Ash (I think) got his hand infected and had to chop it off because it was trying to kill him. For the life of me I can’t remember how he eventually killed the durn thing. Did he just stab it to death or was it tossed in the fire or something? Yeah, but who’s going to do that? We can’t lynch him, so we’re either looking at some sort of non-vanilla ability, or (less likely) we’ll discover some way to use Alpha/Beta status to finish him off. Either way, we can’t actually do anything about it now, and speculation is getting us dangerously close to fishing for a power role. So ixnay on the andhay, capisce? It looks like Thing Fish is our new lead candidate. I wasn’t feeling it before, but as my scumdar is obviously on the fritz, could someone run through the headlines of the case please? ---
**Author:** ![Chucara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Chucara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chucara)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/240 "2008-12-24T11:05:24Z")
Wow… That is the first time I’ve played in a game with a day one scum lynch… Great job guys, I did not catch that one. For good measure, I will **unvote Thing Fish** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854.md?page=13)