# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT ONE **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 19, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854 "2008-12-19T03:11:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/101 "2008-12-21T18:35:33Z")
[QUOTE=Rapier42] As Jsexton said, the vote/unvote thing is interesting, but I’m even more disturbed by the above. Thats a horrible misrepresentation. The ONLY reason I’m not voting Natlaw right now is because of the newbie factor, but that doesn’t stop her (her? him?) from earning a shot of my Arched Eyebrow of Doom. [/QUOTE] I’m a him :). Now I might be misreading **Chucara** ’s post, but how exactly am I misrepresenting it? [QUOTE=Chucara] And now I remember why I forgot the idea again. What about just revealing targets then? That would give nothing away and make it harder for scum to lie.. [/QUOTE] This part I didn’t quote, it just outlines the idea to reveal your target for next Night. Note that you’re giving away your target, not nothing! > [@](#): > > However even this is flawed (kinda).. Suppose a power role is forced to claim (or be lynched).. if a doc would protect him, his action would be known.. Of course, if ever confronted, it could be explained.. Hmm.. Here he says that it’s is (kinda) flawed and gives an example why (power role outed -\> anyone who says to target that player could be a doctor). I snipped the example. > [@](#): > > Unless someone can see flaws in that idea, I’d be willing to give it a try this game. I read ‘that idea’ to mean the ‘reveal target’ plan, not the example mentioned, because in the second part of sentence part he wants to ‘try it’ (the plan, not the example). If you think ‘that idea’ refers to the example, it makes no sense: Unless someone finds a flaw in the example (meaning the plan is good), I want to try the plan (which I said is flawed). Anyway, won’t be snipping mid quote anymore to avoid confusion, but I don’t think I misrepresented the post. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/102 "2008-12-21T20:00:01Z")
I once received a role Pm just saying: “In my game you are vanilla town”. Comparede to that I went like this in the last game I played on this board: > [@Sdmb mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/119): > > PM received 🙂 > > This looks like fun! No one said anything. I so get the Pede-reaction. Story can write like (almost) no one else - this is “pretty interesting” > [@bufftabby](#): > > This sits wrong with me somehow. > > Thinking in terms of possible motivation: > > Vanilla Town: wants to hint at having a power role to avoid lynch without actually false claiming, or to draw scum to target vanilla instead of a PR. My estimated probability: maybe, but seems an awful self-sacrificial gambit for Day One. > > Town power role: wants to die?! My est probability: doubtful. I can’t see a pro-Town reason for a power role to continue to emphasize their slip. > > PFK/Scum: wants to softclaim to avoid lynch. Est prob: maybe. It might save a scum from having to hardclaim, desirable because of course a scum will have to falseclaim, which can be tricky for said scum. I can see a PFK not precisely having to falseclaim (SK says, “oh, I’m a vig” or somesuch), but the point on softclaiming to avoid complications from lying still stands. > I didn’t really think **pede** ’s initial slip told much, but his latest emphasis on it (as quoted above) really rubs me wrong. I’m seeing the scum/PFK explanations as the simplest and most sensical motivations for pushing the I’m-a-power-role button repeatedly. > > **vote pedescribe** I just have to say I disagree - I read the answer from **Pede** as a bit of a smart-ass asking someone to think things through before calling other scummy. I don’t think all the votes for **Pede** _at the moment_ is well thought through. We might risk a power role to claim, we might risk to lynch and vanilla town - yes maybe we found scum (but I really don’t see scum making that kind of slip, smart-ass remark and now baffled defence). > [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Since we have a lot of new faces here, I’m wondering if we should all say how many games we have played in before; it seems that several people have already said this makes a difference in how they evaluate a possible slip or otherwise odd comment. This is my third game as a player (no wins yet) and I’ve lurked pretty intensively in a few others, all on this board. This is a good idea. I have played on Facebook and this is my 3. game on this board. > [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > And since it is getting to be high noon, I would like to set an example for 21 of you by posting something in blue…it’s easy and fun! Seems like we have two candidates so far. I agree that **Pedescribe** ’s behavior is odd, first claiming that his “slip” was merely a comment about the color and then backtracking to strongly imply that it was a power role slip. However, at this point I’m seeing\*\* Pleonast\*\* as slightly scummier, mainly because of his erratic behavior on Night Zero. This is by far the most scummy I have seen yet. “Seems like we have two candidates so far” really makes me think we got a scum-slip. I don’t like the way you seem to only think you will place your vote on someone already getting voted for. Far to often (I know) town also think this way and you have done nothing so far else to ping me. But this is so anti-town that I will (for now) place a vote on Thing Fish. **Vote Thing Fish** ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/103 "2008-12-21T20:45:22Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > I just have to say I disagree - I read the answer from **Pede** as a bit of a smart-ass asking someone to think things through before calling other scummy. I don’t think all the votes for **Pede** _at the moment_ is well thought through. We might risk a power role to claim, we might risk to lynch and vanilla town - yes maybe we found scum (but I really don’t see scum making that kind of slip, smart-ass remark and now baffled defence). Well, in my scenario where a scum/PFK might make that “slip”, it’s not really a slip, but a calculated gambit to cloak oneself with an aura of power role-ness without actually having to claim a power role. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/104 "2008-12-21T20:58:32Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > This is by far the most scummy I have seen yet. “Seems like we have two candidates so far” really makes me think we got a scum-slip. I don’t like the way you seem to only think you will place your vote on someone already getting voted for. Far to often (I know) town also think this way and you have done nothing so far else to ping me. But this is so anti-town that I will (for now) place a vote on Thing Fish. > > **Vote Thing Fish** Interesting. I was thinking along these lines as well. Only, I wasn’t sure if it was a Scum tell or a Townie saying ‘let’s get some votes out there.’ Too often, I’ve seen Scum swoop in toward the end of a Day and cause a bit of chaos to get someone lynched. If we have a close vote with many people not voting, Scum have that much more influence. Though, it might be telling in later Days, I do hate to see a lynch happen without a lot of input from some players. As for the **pleo/peed** ‘debacle,’ :smack: I’m really not seeing a lot to indicate pro-scum behavior. If I had to vote now, it would be toward **fish** , but more than likely just to apply some pressure and see the response. So, let’s do that… **vote thing fish** As for games, I’ve played in about 6 or 7, all but one of them was on FB ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/105 "2008-12-21T21:02:51Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > As for the **pleo/peed** ‘debacle,’ Hush your mouth! ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/106 "2008-12-21T21:09:10Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Well, they aren’t. Originally, I was gonna say: > > But I decided that the last two points were pretty boring, so I changed it to > > but I didn’t notice that there could be unfortunate implications to that. > > Besides, I wouldn’t even say that if I had the opportunity. My role’s pretty boring. > [@pedescribe](#): > > I…what? You are reading way too much into this. I did not intend that. At all. Well, now it looks even worse. I didn’t chime in on your “slip” because I thought there could be two interpretations. But now, not only are you showing the “fishing trip” possibility as a more and more viable option, you’re trying to back-pedal! At first, my vote was based on a weak link. Which, being Day 1, is the strongest one I was expecting to get. But now? It seems like you’re trying to convince me my vote is right. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/107 "2008-12-21T21:22:27Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > Hush your mouth! That’s it? no comment on my typo of peed for pede? ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/108 "2008-12-21T21:24:35Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > That’s it? no comment on my typo of peed for pede? Don’t give up! Maybe **pee** … umm.. \*\*pede \*\*will comment on it! ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/109 "2008-12-21T21:43:25Z")
**Total** and **special** , I don’t know what the hell you are thinking. At the time I logged on, feeling that it was late enough in the Day that it was important to get some kind of vote on record, there were exactly two people who had votes on them. How does observing that fact constitute a scum slip? And I did not say, nor is it true, that I had some principle compelling me to vote for someone who already had votes on them. However, although I did mention a certain level of suspicion on a third party,\*\* Chucara\*\*. It so happens that I thought both “candidates” were in fact worthy of reasonable Day One-type suspicion, and I said so, then cast my vote for the one I thought scummiest. What part of that seems scummy to you? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/110 "2008-12-21T21:53:31Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > Well, now it looks even worse. > > I didn’t chime in on your “slip” because I thought there could be two interpretations. But now, not only are you showing the “fishing trip” possibility as a more and more viable option, you’re trying to back-pedal! > > At first, my vote was based on a weak link. Which, being Day 1, is the strongest one I was expecting to get. But now? It seems like you’re trying to convince me my vote is right. I. Was. Not. Fishing. How many times do I have to say that before it gets through your skull? I haven’t been asking anyone else to claim, and I’ve already explained why I said what I said in the first place–because I used … to indicate that i left some thoughts out. How does that “make it a more viable option”? No-one has even made any indication of a role because of my behavior. That’s because it wasn’t role related. At least, it wasn’t until you all got all worked up about it. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/111 "2008-12-21T22:00:02Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > And since it is getting to be high noon, I would like to set an example for 21 of you by posting something in blue…it’s easy and fun! Seems like we have two candidates so far. I agree that **Pedescribe** ’s behavior is odd, first claiming that his “slip” was merely a comment about the color and then backtracking to strongly imply that it was a power role slip. However, at this point I’m seeing\*\* Pleonast\*\* as slightly scummier, mainly because of his erratic behavior on Night Zero. This is the part I think is scummy. You start by saying: 1. We are at hign noon - time to vote (I agree with you on that) 2. We “seem to have two candidates so far” - this just ping me big time. We are ALL candidates at this and (unless proven power role) all times. You say you have played before - this can’t be a surprise to you…?? 3. You then _compare_ **Pede** and **Pleo** saying: a) You agree **Pede** ’s behavior is odd but b) But howeve you see **Pleo** as “slightly scummier” And the 3b is what pinged me: You should not look at it as **Pede** versus **Pleo**. We are at Day 1 - it is IMO much to early to look at two players getting voted for and thinking you need to decide between those two “candidates”. If you did think you found **Pleo** scummy - then why not just state a case against him? Why did you need to make it a choice between then two? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/112 "2008-12-21T22:22:28Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > **Total** and **special** , I don’t know what the hell you are thinking. At the time I logged on, feeling that it was late enough in the Day that it was important to get some kind of vote on record, there were exactly two people who had votes on them. How does observing that fact constitute a scum slip? > > And I did not say, nor is it true, that I had some principle compelling me to vote for someone who already had votes on them. However, although I did mention a certain level of suspicion on a third party,\*\* Chucara\*\*. It so happens that I thought both “candidates” were in fact worthy of reasonable Day One-type suspicion, and I said so, then cast my vote for the one I thought scummiest. What part of that seems scummy to you? If you read my post, I did say I was just voting to apply a little pressure. I’m satisfied with your explanation. Your actions are really a null tell, in my opinion. I was just hoping for some conversation aside from what we’ve already had on the **pleo/pede** issue is red the correct color for unvotes here? \*\* unvote thing fish\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/113 "2008-12-21T22:42:29Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I’ve lost track of how many games I’ve played in. I think it is somewhere between 8 and 12, maybe more though. I’ve asked to be subbed more than I’d like to admit too, which makes the count even more fuzzy. > > “Slips” (even just perceived ones) around the use of a single word seem to happen pretty much every day (multiple times each Day) and tend to get a huge amount of attention. While certainly not my favorite way to play the game, they are a fact of life and can be exploited for gains by any alignment. I only ask the newbs that you try not to be a one-trick pony. Don’t just cherry pick “slips” and base all of your analysis on them. > > To the game at hand… > > I’d really like to hear more from some of the other players, and I know that people want to see what I have to say too. Day 1 is often a bit of a catch 22 in that fashion. > > I’ve tried to stay as objective as possible about the early votes that came out of a few players, but I think that is where my first vote is going to come from. **Pleonast** has gotten a good bit a scrutiny and suspicion, but I’m not really bothered to much by his explanations and justifications. The vote against **Pleo** that stands out, in my mind, is **JSexton’s**. It came in early out of the gate against one of the few people who is actually posting. This vote is circumstantial and based largely on a hunch that may be easily over-turned by a decent defense, but I’m going to make my wincing Day 1 vote for > > (vote)JSexton > > I fear that you were so quick to vote because you a) may have some insight as to other players’ alignments because you’re scum, b) may have seen a Townie (or at least someone not on your scum team) make a play early in the game that left him vulnerable, and c) may have acted to exploit both the insight and the vulnerability into a vote. > > I want to be clear that I am not proposing that **Pleo** is town in any way but a weak assumption to arrive at a weak Day 1 vote. > Now **Pleonast** had an early vote too, but he’s also posted a good bit in his own defense and what he has posted seems reasonable. _bleached_ **Cookies** , you have mananged to put into words what has been needling me ever since I requested an explanation from \*\*Jsexton \*\*for his very quick non-random vote. It just didn’t sit very well with me at all. It seems very opportunistic. I’ve been debating whether or not to vote for him because I didn’t think I could clearly state why. Now I can. Or rather, you did. 🙂 **Vote Jsexton** ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/114 "2008-12-22T00:25:14Z")
Right now, I don’t find anyone strongly scummy: -I am not scum, nor did I “slip”. -Nanook sorta popped in and left, but he does that all the time. -Diggit has an incorrect idea stuck in his head, but that doesn’t make him scum -Thing Fish tried to cleave the field down to two. Scummy, but after what happened to Capn Pitt\* I’m (probably unreasonably) wary. -Jsexton…is acting odd. I wish he’d post again since I can’t figure him out. -I am not getting AH’s logic at all. But that doesn’t make her scummy. It makes her suspicious, since scum are forced to use specious logic sooner or later, but it’s not enough for me yet. Right now, I’m most suspicious of Thing Fish, so I’ll Vote Thing Fish \*Cap’nPitt was a newbie in Recruitment. 3/4 of the way through day one, he said something implying there were only two real candidates. Everyone voted for him, and he was town. He didn’t play again. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/115 "2008-12-22T00:27:36Z")
**Hockey Monkey** , **Cookies** seems to making a lot of guarded statements in the last two paragraphs. To get it clear: -assuming **Pleonast** is not scum, he made himself vulnerable by voting for pedescribe -a scum knows Pleonast is not scum, so voting him is a safe vote. I note that **JSexton** called out Pleonast right away in Night Zero, but didn’t vote. Later that Night, I placed my vote on Pleonast for another reason. JSexton then places his vote when Day One starts without explicit reason, but he did disagree with him the Night before. On the other hand Pleonast is even more vulnerable target with my vote on him. What do you and Cookies think of that? Rereading JSexton’s posts, he does tell us he’s ‘gnawing on Pleo’s leg’. Is that part the scummy vibe you get from him? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/116 "2008-12-22T01:50:52Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > There is only one mod. There are however, a few more of us watching this game spoiled. You can find the link at [http://www.suckmyballspeeker.net/evildead](http://www.suckmyballspeeker.net/evildead) > > Hey, I’m not a scum, just a guess star. And while story’s inclusion of me in the color was unexpected, I’m pretty sure the pink towel is an allusion to the towel that either Arthur or Ford had with them throughout the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy series. And we will get back to our regulary scheduled programming in a momemt, but every zing has to have a badda bing. What you upset about, **Hoopy**? Just because the last time you went down on your girlfriend and tasted me does not mean Jack. Knew I shouldn’t have barebacked her, however. And regarding the towel, if you used it to wash your face, well then… Let us continue. Any further discussion down this road needs to go somewhere else other than this thread. And it’s just between the **hoopster** and me. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/117 "2008-12-22T02:24:41Z")
The Holidays are hectic (yeah yeah, I know it’s a crap excuse), but I have been reading along despite my lack of posting. Right now, my biggest suspicion is with **Pedescribe**. And it’s not so much about his “slip”, which could or could not mean he has a power role. It’s because he has denied saying it. He has said that the “looks cool” was about the color and not about his PM - I’m not buying it. **Hockey Monkey** has also caused a blip on my radar. **Cookies** ’ vote on **JSexton** is understandable. Her reasoning is a little thin, but I don’t blame her for having suspicion toward him and voting for him to put some pressure on for him to explain himself. Unless I’m reading it wrong, **Cookies** voted for **JSexton** because she has a feeling that he is acting funny. OK, so that’s understandable. But, for **HockeyMonkey** to just quote Cookies and add a “me too” and a vote seems a bit suspicious. I’ll hold off on a vote until later in the dAy - I’ve got a few people (Hockey, JSexton, Pleo, and Pede) to look at closer. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/118 "2008-12-22T02:45:31Z")
Fine. I was gonna wait… But you have unearthed your first mason. Congrats. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/119 "2008-12-22T05:15:28Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Suggesting anti-Town ideas is anti-Town. Not all anti-Town actions are done by scum, but anyone taking an action for which obvious scum motivation exists deserves to be looked at closely. I maintain that suggesting ideas is never anti-Town. We need to encourage Townies to be creative, to think of ways of increase our information. Voting for players because of their ideas is ultimately counterproductive, because we will end up with only quiet players afraid to share. On the other hand, I agree anti-Town actions must be punished. But please distinguish talk from action. Suggesting an idea is not an action–it’s increasing the information pool we’re working from. > [@](#): > > It is true that you came out in favor of a slightly amended version of the idea, which still has serious flaws ( **Natlaw** pointed out one example of such in post 244) in that it could give scum information about other power roles as well as the investigator. Well, yes, but all actions have risks. Recognizing that an action has negative consequences is not enough to make it a bad idea. We must also consider the benefits. And ways that the drawbacks and benefits can be reduced. > [@](#): > > **Pleonast** , could you please go into some more detail on your thought process that led you to quickly vote **Pedescribe** for that slip, and what about his response led you to unvote him? I think I can figure out what you were thinking, but I’d like to hear it from you. I think I stated earlier why I commented on the slip (whatever his alignment, it’s something the whole Town should know, so that we can better react to it). As to why I voted–it was to apply pressure and to get the attention of other players. And then I withdrew my vote, once I read his explanation. It seemed reasonable. Yeah, he could be a Deadite who talks smooth, but I think it’s not enough to lynch him now. And now that he’s claimed mason, the best tactic is too let him live until there’s a counterclaim. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/120 "2008-12-22T06:56:11Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > (snip) > And now that he’s claimed mason, the best tactic is too let him live until there’s a counterclaim. I’d say _unless_ myself, but other than that **unvote pedescribe** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854.md?page=7)