# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT SEVEN

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 22, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492 "2009-01-22T18:47:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/81 "2009-01-25T17:09:32Z")

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Why does **Almost Human** ’s role post start with this line?

> [@](#):
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> Posts: 2,041  
> Mafia: Evil Dead - Role PM  
> Welcome to the game; you are the Creepy Guy With Shovel

I don’t see that in any PMs I get. When I go to look at my PM is says:

> [@](#):
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> Re: PMs  
> Looks like it’s working!
> 
> Welcome to the game; you are

The first line is because \*\*story \*\*was responding to a PM I sent when I finally figured out how to get my PMs activated. But no where is there a line that looks like \*\*Almost \*\ ***Human** ’s

Maybe it’s just something I don’t understand about the boards. Can someone explain it to me?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/82 "2009-01-25T17:16:28Z")

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> [@Almost\_Human](#):
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> I’ve already said in previous posts but all he’s been accused of really is poo flinging. Throughout the game I’ve had a strong town vibe from him. Admittedly my track record for spotting scum hasn’t been good but there you go.
> 
> He was pulled up on finding one player potentially scummy for one action and another for the opposite action. He’s right though that different scum play in different ways and that one doesn’t exclude the other.

OK, so you really mean you have nothing to suspect him of, not that you have a reason to believe he’s Town

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**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/83 "2009-01-25T17:17:15Z")

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You know when you drag your cursor accross the bit you want to copy and paste? Well drag it over your pm but go up too far so it includes story’s name etc. Then paste it onto a reply. That’s what I did - I got rid of most of the extra stuff it pasted on there but missed the number of posts story had made.

Try it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/84 "2009-01-25T17:17:15Z")

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It’s **Story** s post count at the top right, probably caught up in the copy/paste (or put there to make it seems like one of course if you don’t trust AH ^^). And Daniel Stern is the actor from Home Alone.  
For future reference, to quote a PM, press ‘forward’ and you can copy with code.

amrussell would be tied with JSexton if brewha had revoted him after first not unvoting Nanook.

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**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/85 "2009-01-25T17:21:14Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> OK, so you really mean you have nothing to suspect him of, not that you have a reason to believe he’s Town

Correct. I have no proof he’s town if that’s what you meant. And I think JS is scum just in case anyone’s forgotten that bit.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/86 "2009-01-25T19:36:20Z")

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> [@Almost\_Human](#):
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> That makes zero sense to me. You’re basically saying that my MHaye’s role was false because it was too powerful and mine’s false because it isn’t powerful enough. You think my role would never have been used because our doctor isn’t dead. Well, you know, seems like we’ve got a pretty good doctor this game because he/she’s managed to stay under the radar - and should continue to do so.

What I’m saying is, there are almost certainly at least 2 doctors, plus a possiblitiy of a few one-shot protect abilities. The odds that all of these players–who would, by the way, have the incentive to lay low, and it’s likely that at least one can self-protect–would die before the game reached the end or lylo are incredibly low–low to the point that you’re basically vanilla.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/87 "2009-01-25T19:43:37Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> What I’m saying is, there are almost certainly at least 2 doctors, plus a possiblitiy of a few one-shot protect abilities. The odds that all of these players–who would, by the way, have the incentive to lay low, and it’s likely that at least one can self-protect–would die before the game reached the end or lylo are incredibly low–low to the point that you’re basically vanilla.

I think it is very likely that docs in this game will have a lot of twist like the investigators we have seen. I don’t even feel sure that we got a “real” doc - like we never really had a “real” cop.

**Vote JSexton**  
Because he didn’t claim - even if he’s just vanilla (sorry if you are) I’d rather have a “basically” vanilla then a vanilla.

Almost Humans PM ring true to me.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/88 "2009-01-25T19:49:52Z")

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I just got back in town. If my original Amrussel vote was invalid due to not unvoting Nanook first (that’s what I’m getting from a quick skim)  
Vote Amrussel

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/89 "2009-01-25T19:52:47Z")

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> [@Total\_Lost](#):
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> Almost Humans PM ring true to me.

:dubious: You mean, it sounds like a role PM, or it sounds like her role PM?

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**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/90 "2009-01-25T19:56:09Z")

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I wanna be sure I’ve got my colors right - Pedescribe and Hockey Monkey are claimed masons, yesno? And I don’t remember, but wasn’t somebody cleared by NAF before he went off to the great dogpark in the sky?

1. Almost Human
2. amrussell
3. brewha
4. dotchan
5. Hockey Monkey
6. JSexton
7. Millit the Frail
8. Nanook of the North Shore
9. Natlaw
10. pedescribe
11. Rapier42
12. special ed
13. Total Lost
14. Zeriel

MOSTLY DEAD  
7. **Mhaye** , Demon Moose, (Scum Investigator)  
16. **hawkeyeop** , Alpha Redshirt (Vanilla)  
17. **macey** , The Prince of Blades (Scum Strongman)

NO LONGER ALIVE  
18. **Pleonast** , the Sorority Treasurer (Mason)  
19. **NAF1138** , Vincent, the Dog Who Knows Things (Investigative)  
20. **Diggitcamara** , The Inquisitive Fool (Special)  
21. **Thing Fish** , The Religious Figure Having a Crisis of Faith (Investigative)  
22. **CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** , Ash (Special)  
23. **Chucara** , Beta Redshirt (Vanilla)  
24. **Hal Briston** , Alpha Redshirt (Vanilla)  
25. **bufftabby** , The Skanky Vampire Demon (Scum Roleblocker)  
26. **peekercpa** , Predator (Third-Party Serial Killer)  
27. **Blaster Master** , Freddy Krueger (Third-Party Serial Killer)

* * *

End of Day One:

**macey** (9) - brewha, hawkeyeop, hockey monkey, special ed, dotchan, JSexton, pedescribe, Rapier42, Millit the Frail  
**Thing Fish** (4) - total lost, peekercpa, Pleonast, Chucara  
**Chucara** (2) - NAF1138, Diggitcamara  
**Pleonast** (1) - Thing Fish  
**peekercpa** (1) - Natlaw  
**CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (1) - bufftabby  
**Blaster Master** (1) - Cookies  
**Rapier42** (1) - amrussell  
No Vote (7) - MHaye, Blaster Master, Nanook of the North, Zeriel, Hal Briston, Almost Human, macey

End of Day Two:

**Peekercpa** (6) - Nanook, Brewha, Blaster Master, Special Ed, Rapier42, Mhaye  
**Dotchan** (4) - Amrussell, Total Lost, Hockey Monkey, Natlaw  
**Hawkeyeop** (2) - Pedescribe, Almost Human  
**Chucara** (2) - NAF1138, Diggitcamara  
**Blaster Master** (2) - Peekercpa, Chucara  
**Diggit** (1) - Millit  
**Cookies** (1) - Hawkeyeop  
No Vote - Dunno

End of Day Three:

**Chucara** (8) - Diggitcamara, Natlaw, Almost Human, Amrussell, Mhaye, Millit, Special Ed, Rapier  
**Blaster Master** (1) - Chucara  
**Amrussell** (1) - Pedescribe  
**Cookies** (1) - Brewha  
**Almost Human** (1) - Total Lost  
No Vote - Dunno

End of Day Four:

**Blaster Master** (7) - Natlaw, Dotchan, Brewha, Millit the Frail, JSexton, Hockey Monkey, Mhaye  
**Hockey Monkey** (1) - Almost Human  
**Hal Briston** - Cookies, Amrussell, Pedescribe, Blam, Special Ed  
**Cookies** - Hal  
**Mhaye** - NAF

Day Five vote count:

**Hal Briston** (5) - Brewha, Nanook, Jsexton, Natlaw, Special Ed  
**Mhaye** (4) - Hal Briston, Zeriel, Dotchan, Cookies  
**Brewha** (2) - Amrussell, Total Lost  
**Almost Human** (2) - Hockey Monkey, Pedescribe  
**Nanook** (1) - Millit the Frail  
**JSexton** (1) - Almost Human

Day Six vote count:

**Mhaye** (5) - Zeriel, Nanook, Pedescribe, Special Ed, Total Lost  
**Nanook** (3) - Millit the Frail, Dotchan, Brewha  
**JSexton** (3) - Almost Human, Amrussell, Natlaw  
**Special Ed** (1) - Mhaye

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/91 "2009-01-25T20:03:31Z")

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TL is confirmed town.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/92 "2009-01-25T20:05:41Z")

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Not a mason, but confirmed by cookies.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/93 "2009-01-25T20:10:07Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> :dubious: You mean, it sounds like a role PM, or it sounds like her role PM?

Things in the PM makes sense to me 🙂

It isn’t proff - but it makes sense… the part of “However, if the role or roles primarily responsible for the protection of Townies should be rendered dead or otherwise unable to carry out protective detail” fits with my theory that we do have some form of doc(s) - but they might not be fully “operational”.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/94 "2009-01-25T20:11:23Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> TL is confirmed town.

_lol_ I might as well point this out myself - I’m only a confirmed “not scum” 😉

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/95 "2009-01-25T20:15:06Z")

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> [@Almost\_Human](#):
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> Day 1 he rode Pleo’s arse and voted for him till macey made his slip. There’s a pretty good chance Pleo could’ve been lynched if that hadn’t happened. That Night Pleo’s NKd. Coincidence? Yes it could be.
> 
> But then Day 2 he’s riding hawk (yes I was too I know). Again hawk could well have been lynched that Day if not for peeker outing himself. Again hawk’s NKd that Night.

So you’re saying that a scum Jsex found someone I could force a mislynch on, barely missed getting the mislynch…then Nighkilled him?Why? Why wouldn’t I just resume tring to force the mislynch the next day? Why would I possibly kill a lynchable player?

> [@](#):
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> JS has voted for macey by this stage. But this looks like a way to get votes off him to me. As it happens he hadn’t read the Day carefully enough as Thing Fish never voted for macey.

I thought he had, as his attack on macey sure sounded like it would be accompanied by a vote.

> [@](#):
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> Sounds nice and townie doesn’t it? Yes, getting rid of two scum helps us in terms of numbers but in terms of information? Well no it doesn’t at all. Those two died before they had a chance to implicate or interact with anyone. In fact macey’s death was more a net benefit to the scum IMO as his posting style would be a definite liability in a game this analytical.

Ridiculous. There was a full day’s interaction, votes and all.

> [@](#):
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> You used the same reasons for unvoting Pleo too. It’s a good excuse to use when unvoting if someone else is about to be lynched and makes sure your vote isn’t left on a town player.

Or, it’s the truth. What, I can’t simply have an honest disagreement with someone? You think if people butt heads, one of them must be scum?

> [@](#):
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> This smacks of PIS. Yes, you implicate Total as Freddy Krueger rather than BLAM but the seed is sown. I think you know very well there’s a Freddy Krueger PFK about and you’re preparing the groundwork for it.

Unless I planned to fake claim cop, why would I possibly reveal that? Worse, why would I point in the wrong freaking direction if I already know that Blam is a SK? It was a lucky guess, nothing more. Your hypothesis here makes no freaking sense.

> [@](#):
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> You’re not letting that one go are you? This sounds so reasonable but it’s subtly smudging TL. You say you’re not especially worried about her but still, she could be scum, oh, and it’s weird she disappeared.

All of those statements are true.

> [@](#):
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> You also say you have a better target today but never go on to say more. Who was that target because your vote at the end of the Day doesn’t indicate you had one:

I was referring to amrussell, which would be obvious if you’d read the post previous.

> [@Almost\_Human](#):
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> I don’t understand why you’re voting for amrussel when you think he’s town in this post:

As I said when I placed it, I’m not about to vote for a claimed protective role without a chance to analyze the claim fully. And I’m not about to self-vote. That just leaves amrussell as a viable lynch target.

And for the record, I’m an Alpha Redshirt.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/96 "2009-01-25T20:30:23Z")

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Didn’t teh day end at 1:00?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/97 "2009-01-25T20:31:58Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Didn’t teh day end at 1:00?

If so, JSexton’s already dead.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/98 "2009-01-25T20:48:20Z")

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☹ If it did, then bah. Go town.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/99 "2009-01-25T21:28:28Z")

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Day ended at one. My washing machine barfed about a billion gallons of water all over my downstairs. I am dealing with that, and will attend to Dusk as soon as my house, I, and my extremely irritated cat are all appropriate dry and somewhat less irritated.

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**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/100 "2009-01-25T21:30:07Z")

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Or to put it another way…

**Almost Human** - novote, Hawkeye, Chucara, Hockey Monkey, Jsexton, Jsexton  
**Amrussell** - Rapier, Dotchan, Pedescribe, Hal, Brewha, Jsexton  
**Brewha** - Macey, Peeker, Cookies, Blam, Hal, Nanook  
\*\*Dotchan \*\* - Macey, novote, novote,Blam, Mhaye, Nanook  
**Hockey Monkey** - Macey, Dotchan, novote, Blam, Almost Human, novote  
**JSexton** - Macey, novote, novote, Blam, Hal, novote  
**Millit the Frail** - Macey, Diggit, Chucara, Blam, Nanook, Nanook  
\*\*Nanook \*\* - novote, Peeker, novote, novote, Hal, Mhaye  
**Natlaw** - Peeker, Dotchan, Chucara, Blam Hal, Jsexton  
\*\*Pedescribe \*\* - Macey, Hawkeye, Amrussell, Hal, Almost Human, Mhaye  
**Rapier42** - Macey, Peeker, Chucara, novote, novote, novote  
**Special Ed** - Macey, Peeker, Chucara, Hal, Hal, Mhaye  
**Total Lost** - Thing Fish, Dotchan, Almost Human, novote, Brewha, Mhaye  
**Zeriel** - novote, novote, novote, novote, Mhaye, Mhaye

Had a lot of success with this in a recent game, so I’m trying the same approach here, just in case anybody was wondering what the heck I’m doing.

First off, I’m not putting a lot of credit towards Macey votes. That train ran hard and fast. Scum on it early may not have been able to duck off, and later votes could easily be scum that see which way the wind is blowing.

Whats notable here? AH and Natlaw haven’t ended the day with a vote for a known scum yet, thats interesting to me. Somehow Zeriel is actually challenging me for lurkiest lurker award, which I didn’t think was possible. Also, I swear I voted for Blam when his train left town, but it isn’t in my vote charts. I’ll need to see whattup wit’ dat.

While I was compiling this, I felt like there were several players I can rule as likely Town just from watching how the Hal and Mhaye lynches went down. I don’t wanna name names because I don’t like “trust lists”, but there’s info there, and if anybody hasn’t looked at it yet, take some time to do that.

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