# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT SEVEN

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 22, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492 "2009-01-22T18:47:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/101 "2009-01-25T22:11:00Z")

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Well, hell (assuming Jsex isn’t playing with that “go town”.)

I’m leaving my vote on amrussell for now.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/102 "2009-01-25T22:37:49Z")

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_A title card appears._

TITLE CARD  
Creating color is one of the reasons I wanted to run games in the first place. However, with apologies, I will have to forgo color for this Dusk. This is unfortunate, because I would like to give JSexton a proper exit, but given the Greek Tragedy that is my house this evening, I am sorely lacking in both time and inspiration. Therefore, I will simply directly reveal that:

**JSexton** , aka Evil Ash, a Scum Special has been lynched. He, along with **hawkeyeop** , **mhaye** , and **macey** is dead but only mostly so, and may continue to post if he wishes.

* * *

Night Seven begins now, and will end at approximately 1:00PM on Tuesday, January 27. Have fun, and sorry again for the lame Dusk.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/103 "2009-01-25T22:42:56Z")

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Wait, what? I’m scum?

I knew I ought to have read my role PM…

:wanders off muttering:

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/104 "2009-01-25T22:47:55Z")

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YES! way to go, Town

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/105 "2009-01-25T22:48:05Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> * * *
> 
> Night Seven begins now, and will end at approximately 1:00PM on Tuesday, January 27. Have fun, and sorry again for the lame Dusk.

I for one won’t object even a little bit if you write it up and post it half way through the Day.  
In other news, Boom-Shanka!

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**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/106 "2009-01-25T22:54:23Z")

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Jsexton, please join Santo in the bastard-crusted bastard filled bastard corner.

**unvote amrussell**.

Sigh, off to reread.

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/107 "2009-01-25T22:55:35Z")

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Oh yes! Four scum down!

He’s still alive a bit, so I look forward to more color when your house is dry and **JSexton** is vanquished completely!

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**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/108 "2009-01-25T23:19:06Z")

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Thank god for that - I was starting to worry when JS didn’t come back with much of an argument.

Hope you get your house back in order soon - I well know the angst of a flooded washing machine though I don’t have an indignant cat to contend with.

I think we’d all love to hear a posthumous exit post for JS when you do have time - they’re some of the best bits of this game.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/109 "2009-01-25T23:48:25Z")

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Yes! We (and by we I mean everyone else) are doing _amazing_!

Sorry about that, AH–most of my case against you has disintegrated now that JSexton is known to be scum, so I’mma going to move my vote…to someone. Not sure who.

Unvote Almost Human

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/110 "2009-01-25T23:49:34Z")

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> [@Rapier42](#):
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> Jsexton, please join Santo in the bastard-crusted bastard filled bastard corner.

😕

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**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/111 "2009-01-26T00:03:28Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> 😕

OOG - in the just-over offboard game, Santo claimed scum in order to try and get the outed SK to work with them against Town, and I dubbed him a “bastard-crusted bastard-filled bastard” for it.

For tricking me with his “go town” tomfoolery, Jsex gets the same title.  
That is all.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/112 "2009-01-26T00:29:22Z")

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> [@Rapier42](#):
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> OOG - in the just-over offboard game, Santo claimed scum in order to try and get the outed SK to work with them against Town, and I dubbed him a “bastard-crusted bastard-filled bastard” for it.
> 
> For tricking me with his “go town” tomfoolery, Jsex gets the same title.  
> That is all.

It wasn’t a trick, though. I didn’t know my alignment. I’m just as surprised as you.

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**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/113 "2009-01-26T00:29:25Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Yes! We (and by we I mean everyone else) are doing _amazing_!
> 
> Sorry about that, AH–most of my case against you has disintegrated now that JSexton is known to be scum, so I’mma going to move my vote…to someone. Not sure who.
> 
> Unvote Almost Human

No need to apologise, I wasn’t playing normally prior to my claim as I was trying to garner votes from town without actually getting lynched. It was very frustrating!

Not sure who to look at next either. It’s late here so I’ll sleep on it.

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**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/114 "2009-01-26T00:48:21Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> It wasn’t a trick, though. I didn’t know my alignment. I’m just as surprised as you.

That’s…bizarre. So the question is, would storyteller actually do that, to throw us for a loop, or is this a bit of misdirection that, frankly, doesn’t give scum much of an advantage? Huh, **JSexton,** huh, you scummy evildoer?

OK, I suppose the advantage to it would be that we could look at his arguments differently. Unless that’s what he WANTS us to do. If he’s lying, that is. :smack:

I’m completely undecided about **amrussell** now. But I’m still convinced I’ve got a bead on **special ed** , so here goes:  
\*\*  
Unvote amrussell  
Vote special ed\*\*

Oh, and the spreadsheet will go live again in a matter of hours. Thanks for your patience.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/115 "2009-01-26T01:00:47Z")

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> [@Millit\_the\_Frail](#):
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> That’s…bizarre. So the question is, would storyteller actually do that, to throw us for a loop, or is this a bit of misdirection that, frankly, doesn’t give scum much of an advantage? Huh, **JSexton,** huh, you scummy evildoer?
> 
> OK, I suppose the advantage to it would be that we could look at his arguments differently. Unless that’s what he WANTS us to do. If he’s lying, that is. :smack:
> 
> I’m completely undecided about **amrussell** now. But I’m still convinced I’ve got a bead on **special ed** , so here goes:  
> \*\*  
> Unvote amrussell  
> Vote special ed\*\*
> 
> Oh, and the spreadsheet will go live again in a matter of hours. Thanks for your patience.

Why? because it must be that I’m just making a habit of busing Scum?

I would think that along with my help in \*\*diggit \*\*potentially finding more Scum and making sure it was open and public to everyone would make me at least a little less suspicious than others.

But, it’s interesting. I’m sure this will help the voting analysis.  
I think it’s time we really started considering what it’s going to take to completely kill off those pesky mostly dead Scum.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/116 "2009-01-26T01:15:11Z")

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> [@Almost\_Human](#):
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> No need to apologise, I wasn’t playing normally prior to my claim as I was trying to garner votes from town without actually getting lynched. It was very frustrating!
> 
> Not sure who to look at next either. It’s late here so I’ll sleep on it.

Ah. That explains…a lot.

> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Why? because it must be that I’m just making a habit of busing Scum?
> 
> I would think that along with my help in \*\*diggit \*\*potentially finding more Scum and making sure it was open and public to everyone would make me at least a little less suspicious than others.
> 
> But, it’s interesting. I’m sure this will help the voting analysis.  
> I think it’s time we really started considering what it’s going to take to completely kill off those pesky mostly dead Scum.

I have two theories.  
a) there is one full scum left. When he/she dies, all of the mostly dead players merge into a new player, who we promptly kill FTW.  
b) there are either one or two full scum left. When they are killed, the mostly dead scum evaporate, and we win.

We need to figure out which is true, or if it’s something else entirely.

Oh, and JSexton, could you tell us more about your role? What was your relation to Cookies, if any? Did your role PM describe you as the butt-kicking Ash? Did you communicate with the other scum at all?

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**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/117 "2009-01-26T01:15:29Z")

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I’m back. Sorry for missing the end of the Day.

As far as the mostly dead go I think it was noted the first time it happened (not going to look it up right now) that they’re too dead to lynch a second time, and we may have lost our only tool of killing them for good (i.e. Cookies). But we should still be able to win if we lynch all of the scum, because by then they wouldn’t be able to vote anyway.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/118 "2009-01-26T01:27:07Z")

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Day 1  
**macey, Scum strongman** mostly dead

Night 1  
**Thing Fish, investigator**  
**Bufftabby, Scum roleblocker** mostly dead (now fully dead)  
**Pleonast, Town mason**

Day 2  
**peeker, PFK Serial Killer**

Night 2  
**Hawkeye, Town Alpha** mostly dead

Day 3  
**Chucara, Town Beta**  
Bufftabby dies completely

Night 3  
**Diggitcamara, Town multipowered**

Day 4  
**Blaster Master, PFK, Serial Killer**

Night 4  
**NAF, Town investigator**  
yellow glow

Day 5  
**Hal Briston, Town Beta**

Night 5  
**Cookies, Town something**

Day 6  
**MHaye, Scum investigator** mostly dead

Night 6  
No one

Day 7  
**JSexton, Scum special** mostly dead

My initial though for running all this was to see if there was a correlation with a Vanilla death leading to a Scum fully dying. But there doesn’t seem to be. If **Chucara** , Beta took out **Bufftabby** , then why didn’t \*\*Hawkeye \*\*, Alpha take out **macey**? and why did \*\*Hal \*\*die completely without killing anyone else?

Any other ideas on this? Or should I drop this and concentrate on something else?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/119 "2009-01-26T01:42:15Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Day 1  
> **macey, Scum strongman** mostly dead
> 
> Night 1  
> **Thing Fish, investigator**  
> **Bufftabby, Scum roleblocker** mostly dead (now fully dead)  
> **Pleonast, Town mason**
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> Day 2  
> **peeker, PFK Serial Killer**
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> Night 2  
> **Hawkeye, Town Alpha** mostly dead
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> Day 3  
> **Chucara, Town Beta**  
> Bufftabby dies completely
> 
> Night 3  
> **Diggitcamara, Town multipowered**
> 
> Day 4  
> **Blaster Master, PFK, Serial Killer**
> 
> Night 4  
> **NAF, Town investigator**  
> yellow glow
> 
> Day 5  
> **Hal Briston, Town Beta**
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> Night 5  
> **Cookies, Town something**
> 
> Day 6  
> **MHaye, Scum investigator** mostly dead
> 
> Night 6  
> No one
> 
> Day 7  
> **JSexton, Scum special** mostly dead
> 
> My initial though for running all this was to see if there was a correlation with a Vanilla death leading to a Scum fully dying. But there doesn’t seem to be. If **Chucara** , Beta took out **Bufftabby** , then why didn’t \*\*Hawkeye \*\*, Alpha take out **macey**? and why did \*\*Hal \*\*die completely without killing anyone else?
> 
> Any other ideas on this? Or should I drop this and concentrate on something else?

My personal theory, going along with my a) theory from earlier, is that there was one random vanilla town player who would stay 1/5 alive. And it was hawkeyeop.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/120 "2009-01-26T02:08:32Z")

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> [@Millit\_the\_Frail](#):
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> That’s…bizarre. So the question is, would storyteller actually do that, to throw us for a loop, or is this a bit of misdirection that, frankly, doesn’t give scum much of an advantage? Huh, **JSexton,** huh, you scummy evildoer?

It’s got nothing to do with storyteller. I decided to try out something I’ve been noodling around with for a while. Before reading my role PM, I asked story to only send me my abilities. No name, description, flavor, or alignment. I’ve been playing the whole time without knowing anything but ability. I figured if I’m town, then I could still use abilities to the fullest, and if I’m scum, well, I can’t give anything away or be caught via voting patterns.

Of course, now that I know I’m scum (and I have finally read my full role PM), I’ve got no reason to reveal what I know to the rest of you, do I? Mwahaha.

Ooh, I just realized there must be scum boards! Hope they aren’t too pissed at me… :smack:

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