# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT SEVEN **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 22, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492 "2009-01-22T18:47:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/121 "2009-01-26T02:12:37Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > It’s got nothing to do with storyteller. I decided to try out something I’ve been noodling around with for a while. Before reading my role PM, I asked story to only send me my abilities. No name, description, flavor, or alignment. I’ve been playing the whole time without knowing anything but ability. I figured if I’m town, then I could still use abilities to the fullest, and if I’m scum, well, I can’t give anything away or be caught via voting patterns. > > Of course, now that I know I’m scum (and I have finally read my full role PM), I’ve got no reason to reveal what I know to the rest of you, do I? Mwahaha. > > Ooh, I just realized there must be scum boards! Hope they aren’t too pissed at me… :smack: … … … BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That’s brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/122 "2009-01-26T02:36:02Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > … > … > … > BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! > > That’s brilliant! But not brilliant enough, it seems. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/123 "2009-01-26T02:51:26Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > But not brilliant enough, it seems. 🙂 You are one sick puppy. But I admire it. Thanks for playing for us, dude! And here it is, the spreadsheet reborn: [Evil Dead Mafia Spreadsheet](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pV4U-YLSC8rtSgJeNWc8fLg) Any mistakes are just my own stupidity; I would check it better if I had a ton of time to kill, which I don’t. So use it at your own risk, and I’ll correct whatever you want if you point it out to me. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/124 "2009-01-26T03:08:49Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > No need to apologise, I wasn’t playing normally prior to my claim as I was trying to garner votes from town without actually getting lynched. It was very frustrating! > > Not sure who to look at next either. It’s late here so I’ll sleep on it. _blink_ I’m not sure whats wrong with me. I missed your claim, could you direct me to a post, por favor? ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/125 "2009-01-26T03:15:53Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > It’s got nothing to do with storyteller. I decided to try out something I’ve been noodling around with for a while. Before reading my role PM, I asked story to only send me my abilities. No name, description, flavor, or alignment. I’ve been playing the whole time without knowing anything but ability. I figured if I’m town, then I could still use abilities to the fullest, and if I’m scum, well, I can’t give anything away or be caught via voting patterns. > > Of course, now that I know I’m scum (and I have finally read my full role PM), I’ve got no reason to reveal what I know to the rest of you, do I? Mwahaha. > > Ooh, I just realized there must be scum boards! Hope they aren’t too pissed at me… :smack: You just realized? Color me :dubious:. _sticks fingers in ears_ LA LA LA LA LA YOU’RE SCUM I CAN’T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/126 "2009-01-26T03:17:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Mafia: Evil Dead - Role PM > Welcome to the game; you are the Creepy Guy With Shovel > > ALIGNMENT: Town > GENERIC: Backup Doctor > WIN CONDITION: All Deadites have been vanquished. > > BACKGROUND: > > From a strict scholarly standpoint, the prototypical Creepy Guy With Shovel, the epitome of the trope, if you will, appeared in the seminal film masterpiece of 1990, Home Alone. You know the drill: older male with a lot of facial hair and not much affection for personal hygiene, with a tendency to appear suddenly and startle the not-too-terrible-bright leads. But when things get unpleasant, there’s the Creepy Guy With Shovel, ready to fend off the odd demon or bat monster or Daniel Stern and protect the same shallow, vapid teenagers who thought him so terrifying. > > That’s you. You know this gang of co-eds is in grave danger: you’ve seen things like this happen before out in the woods of northern Michigan, and it’s never ended well. But you’re not about to let more innocent young lives go to waste - not as long as you have your shovel. You’ll hang around, and try to blend in; if they need you, you’ll be there. As long as they don’t panic and lynch you first. > > POWERS: > > 1. At the outset of the game, you have no active powers. However, if the role or roles primarily responsible for the protection of Townies should be rendered dead or otherwise unable to carry out protective detail, you will swoop in like a stinky Superman to save the Day. From that point forward, you will be allowed to target one player per Night; you will use your trusty shovel to fend off any attempts on their life. You can even target yourself - as long as you meet the criterion below. > > Because of course, there’s a small catch. Your role in this movie is only suitably ironic if you protect those who trust you least. Accordingly, you may target for protection only players who have voted for you at least once during the course of the game. Post #60. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/127 "2009-01-26T03:18:24Z")
Gracias! ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/128 "2009-01-26T03:26:48Z")
That’s AH’s, not mine. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/129 "2009-01-26T09:00:29Z")
> [@Millit\_the\_Frail](#): > > You are one sick puppy. But I admire it. Thanks for playing \*\*for \*\*us, dude! > > And here it is, the spreadsheet reborn: > > [Evil Dead Mafia Spreadsheet](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pV4U-YLSC8rtSgJeNWc8fLg) > > Any mistakes are just my own stupidity; I would check it better if I had a ton of time to kill, which I don’t. So use it at your own risk, and I’ll correct whatever you want if you point it out to me. (bolding mine) “For” us? ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/130 "2009-01-26T09:17:06Z")
> [@Almost\_Human](#): > > (bolding mine) > > “For” us? As in, playing as if he were town.\* Instead of playing for **them**. The way I said it in my head made sense, with the emphasis on “us,” but I can see how it’s an awkward phrase. I’m not a genius, but I’m really not dumb enough to be a scum making a slip by referring to myself as one. 😛 \*Looking closer, he didn’t say specifically that he was playing as if he were on the town’s side, but his “Go Town” comment made me assume so. That is, of course, if we really believe him. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/131 "2009-01-26T10:01:37Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > It’s got nothing to do with storyteller. I decided to try out something I’ve been noodling around with for a while. Before reading my role PM, I asked story to only send me my abilities. No name, description, flavor, or alignment. I’ve been playing the whole time without knowing anything but ability. I figured if I’m town, then I could still use abilities to the fullest, and if I’m scum, well, I can’t give anything away or be caught via voting patterns. > > Of course, now that I know I’m scum (and I have finally read my full role PM), I’ve got no reason to reveal what I know to the rest of you, do I? Mwahaha. > > Ooh, I just realized there must be scum boards! Hope they aren’t too pissed at me… :smack: You’re breaking my heart. Here I was, patting myself on the back for catching my first ever scum with razor-sharp analysis, and here I was punching smoke. It’s just dumb luck. And then I thought, no. You either play as scum or play as town. Either you’re trying to hunt scum or you’re trying to protect them while killing off town. You can’t not know what it is you’re trying to achieve. So I think you’re lying (being scum and all) and trying to stop us looking for your buddies. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/132 "2009-01-26T13:08:59Z")
I’m going to try something weird. Vote Millet the Frail Why? Because I’ve never seen her do anything scummy this game. Ever. And I have no reasons to be the least bit suspicious of her. But there’s more. For whatever reason, I have an overwhelming ‘feeling’ that she is just town. Given my track record, she’s probably scum. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/133 "2009-01-26T13:58:53Z")
That’s a novel approach **pede**!. I’ll admit, Millit, I’m kind of interested to find out how you get from here: > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FIVE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-five/480855/48): > > **amrussell** is posting a lot,\*\* and it’s mostly decent analysis\*\*. I don’t see anything particularly scummy. I’ve got to think about this one. to here: > [@Millit\_the\_Frail](#): > > OK, let’s get serious toDay. I want to bust some more Deadites. I see that no one is picking up on my case against **special ed** , but I see another good candidate rising. A few players who have strong townie cred with me have put out good arguments against **amrussell**. I can buy it. \*\*Something about his analyses has struck me as forced and smudgy. \*\* There’s definitely a poo-flinging quality to his style, as someone mentioned. Bolding of contradictory phrases is of course mine. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/134 "2009-01-26T14:35:16Z")
These short days are starting to get on my nerves given my weekend schedules of late. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/135 "2009-01-26T15:32:56Z")
Post your thoughts at Night. It’s not the same as being around for the end of the Day, but it still helps. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/136 "2009-01-26T16:44:24Z")
Well, first of all, unvote Mr. Special Ed. It’s stretching credulity that he’d put the ice on JSexton when it was tied up, unless by some bizarre stretch amrussell is also scum. On the other hand, I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see seven total scum, either, of which we’ve wiped out four (this is far unlikely, but I think two scum left is a reasonable guess). I’m also fairly trusting of Almost Human’s claim at this point–the fact that she accidentally cut-and-pasted Storyteller’s post count from the top of her PM tells me she wasn’t proofreading it very hard, which means she probably wasn’t trying to fool us. Beyond that, I’m going to dive back into the voting record and see if I can shake anything else loose with toDay’s data added. I’m re-collecting my thoughts ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/137 "2009-01-26T17:58:44Z")
> [@amrussell](#): > > You’re breaking my heart. Here I was, patting myself on the back for catching my first ever scum with razor-sharp analysis, and here I was punching smoke. It’s just dumb luck. > > And then I thought, no. You either play as scum or play as town. Either you’re trying to hunt scum or you’re trying to protect them while killing off town. You can’t not know what it is you’re trying to achieve. So I think you’re lying (being scum and all) and trying to stop us looking for your buddies. Or, he wants you to think that. WIFOM. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/138 "2009-01-26T18:09:42Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > Or, he wants you to think that. > > WIFOM. Fair enough - we shouldn’t listen to a word known scum say. We know he was scum. We know his fellow scum knew he was scum. That should be plenty to go on. ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/139 "2009-01-26T18:31:18Z")
> [@amrussell](#): > > Fair enough - we shouldn’t listen to a word known scum say. > > We know he was scum. We know his fellow scum knew he was scum. That should be plenty to go on. Nod. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492/140 "2009-01-26T20:40:45Z")
Yup, I don’t buy **JSexton** not knowing his own alignment either. Maybe at LyLo the mostly dead scum might try to cause more confusion, I think they haven’t so far to avoid accidental slips. Anyway, it’s looking pretty good for town: D7: 12/2.6, D8: 11/1.8, D9: 9/1.8, D10: 7/1.8, D11 5/1.8, D12 3/1.8 (LyLo) or with two scum: D7: 11/3.6, D8: 10/2.8, D9: 8/2.8, D10: 6/2.8, D11 4/2.8 (LyLo) I really liked the end vote count of **Rapier** , so added Day Seven votes and some (subjective) ordering: **MHaye** - macey, Hawkeyeop, novote, BlaM, novote, special ed **JSexton** - macey, novote, novote, BlaM, Hal, novote, amrussell **Millit the Frail** - macey, Diggit, Chucara, BlaM, Nanook, Nanook, amrussell **brewha** - macey, peeker, Cookies, BlaM, Hal, Nanook, novote\*\* **Rapier42** - macey, peeker, Chucara, novote, novote, novote, amrussell **Nanook** - novote, peeker, novote, novote, Hal, Mhaye, Natlaw **special ed** - macey, peeker, Chucara, Hal, Hal, Mhaye, JSexton \*_dotchan \*\* - macey, novote, novote, Blam, Mhaye, Nanook, Nanook **Zeriel** - novote, novote, novote, novote, Mhaye, Mhaye, special ed **Natlaw** - peeker, dotchan, Chucara, BlaM, Hal, JSexton, JSexton **amrussell** - Rapier42, dotchan, Chucara, Hal, brewha, JSexton, JSexton **Almost Human** - novote, Hawkeye, Chucara, Hockey Monkey, JSexton, JSexton **Total Lost** - Thing Fish, Dotchan, Almost Human, novote, Brewha, Mhaye, novote_ **pedescribe** - macey, Hawkeye, amrussell, Hal, Almost Human, Mhaye, Almost Human **Hockey Monkey** - macey, Dotchan, novote, BlaM, Almost Human, novote, Almost Human - Total Lost voted JSexton after Dusk (would have been JSexton 4 - amrussell 3) \*\* brewha voted amrussell after Dusk (after TL, JSexton 5 - amrussell 4, had invalid vote for amrussell earlier) Ordering is based on: D1: I think a macey vote is mostly a null tell now; D2: didn’t look at it, but the peeker votes ended near top D3: didn’t look at it, either were votes for Chucara or no vote mostly; D4: not much weight, though pfk relatively save vote (and two scum did for sure); D5: a vote for Hal pushed could be other scum saving MHaye (vote ended 5-4); D6: a vote MHaye could have been made by scum, so no towny credit for it; D7: but I do give quite some credit to a JSexton vote, and the amrussell votes look scummy now. So compared to my analysis of Day Six, Nanook and special ed (hammered Hal, but also hammered JSexton) go down again and Millit comes up quite unexpectedly (for me). Disclaimer: Only one (maybe two) scum alive, so there is almost certainly townies in the top! Arguments what is good or wrong about it welcome. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-seven/482492.md?page=8)