# Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT TWO

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 27, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-two/478862 "2008-12-27T18:15:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-two/478862/91 "2008-12-30T00:52:57Z")

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> I like this idea, but I would be surprised if story doesn’t sub Blam out at dusk. HMm…I wonder if there’s a limit to the number of subs?

I’ve actually got a funny feeling that he won’t. I’d like to be wrong, but I am of the opinion that we’re going to have to deal with Blam ourselves, one way or another.

It can probably wait until night, but if he’s not replaced by then? Yeah, I think we should see if the night lynch theory is correct.

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> At this point, I see that the Cookies and Hawkeyeop debate is taking center stage. I’ll be honest–I don’t have any hard evidence to add. But I’ve got a feeling that Hawkeyeop is scum and that Cookies is town. It’s a gut feeling, nothing more.

I share your gut. Let’s see why!

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> So you expect scum on day one to try to get each other lynched? I know scum can do anything, but they don’t generally purposely sacrifice there own day one.

Strawman. I expect scum to try and blend in and act townie. If that means posting an legit attack on their own, then yeah, that’s the right play. Macey made a series of terrible posts. Good town play is to attack them, therefore good scum play is to attack them.

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> “Anyone who pushed someone else’s lynch is by definition attempting to protect Macey” is a factual statement. If you are voting for candidate A, you are making it less likely candidate B is lynched. This doesn’t necessarily mean such an action is scummy, but it has that effect nonetheless.

Disagree. You’re confusing motive with effect. Taking a given action will prodice a variety of effects, some of which may be incidental and show nothing of that player’s motivation.

Or look at it another way: That logic means that every time a player casts a vote, that player is protecting _every single other player_, which renders it somewhat useless as a tell, doesn’t it?

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> I find nothing scummy about lurking, so yes ignoring Macey is more scummy. Many many things are more scummy than lurking.

Lurking is scummy, because it is not pro-town. It does not allow the town to use your posts to determine your alignment, and it doesn’t contribute your brainpower. Does town lurk? Sure. But town also vigs town, mislynchs, and lies (irony!). The point is that those actions are anti-town, and hence are more likely to indicate motivation.

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Hawkeye, I have problems with a lot of your posts. Some are big on general theory, but not directly related to the game. Those that do relate to the game, I feel, are pushing us in the wrong direction. Difference in playstyle again? Maybe. But I have to call it like I see it, and I don’t see you acting in our interest. vote hawkeyeop

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