# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/441 "2013-01-25T09:21:47Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Pizza’s lets scum pack their bags, tidy up the house, let the dog out, walk to the car, warm it up and drive at the speed limit out of the subdivision before the police can get to their patrol car. I’ve respectfully disagreed with you many a time, and courteously ignored some of your more long-winded rants that went nowhere. But this line is so over-the-top, nonsensical, and just plain horseshit, that you should be ashamed to have written it. Pizza’s plan has yet to be implemented for an entire phase and you’re writing it off as having been proven useless. That’s some steaming pile of arrogance. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/442 "2013-01-25T09:35:01Z")
> [@Chucara](#): > > LOL. I positively loved that I’m being voted for my EARLY Day One vote with the stated reason of ‘pancakes’. > > Yes.. My clever and devious scum plan was to deceive you all with my delicious sugary treats. MWHAHAHAHA!! I’m much more cautious about handing out “this guy is a townie” treats because how the frick could you ever know that. But this guy is a townie. I can feel his anger… it gives him focus. Makes him stronger… Errr… or something like that. Seriously this post reads as entirely genuine and boy, have I ever been in his shoes. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/443 "2013-01-25T10:17:59Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I’ve respectfully disagreed with you many a time, and courteously ignored some of your more long-winded rants that went nowhere. > > But this line is so over-the-top, nonsensical, and just plain horseshit, that you should be ashamed to have written it. > > Pizza’s plan has yet to be implemented for an entire phase and you’re writing it off as having been proven useless. That’s some steaming pile of arrogance. Long winded rants that go nowhere. you would know a lot about this, wouldn’t you. I still side with Bravo (was it) that nailed it when he said yours boils down to throwing spaghetti to the wall just to see what sticks. It is a glorified shot in the dark. Hi, I’m Meeko, I speak nearly in analogies, have we met before? Ah, I have to wait for the Titanic to submerge completely before I jump ship, and can’t get off of it the moment I see it take on water. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/444 "2013-01-25T10:25:08Z")
further, Pizza, can you please tell me how yours isn’t a handshake variant? Can you tell me how the defense any player puts up against your plan won’t be constructed by their scum mates? Can you tell me how your plan avoids the Peeker, Roosh, and Meekos of the world from being misread or even specifically outed for their idiosyncrasies? Your entire plan is telegraphed in such a way that any person who can collaborate and confer with others on their team will be at a distinct advantage to innocent vanilla townies - those who can’t confer. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/445 "2013-01-25T12:22:26Z")
it’s early, I have coffee, and North Korea made me laugh already - it can’t be a bad day. that said, I realize I didn’t lift two of my votes during last night’s post as I intended **unvote Guiri unvote USCDiver** now, let’s see what I missed while I was sleeping… ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/446 "2013-01-25T12:28:04Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I’m here. > > But holy crap, I need to catch up, and I frankly wonder if I can. you can do it, we have faith in you! > [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > Now onto the Guiri vs Fubble as I quoted above…Fubble you seem to really get defensive here…I didn’t see Guiri being overly abusive here? Why are you so upset about?.. > > I think I want to start with > Vote: Fubbleskag keep reading; when you get caught up you’ll see that I’ve addressed that with (and apologised to) **Guiri** ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/447 "2013-01-25T12:50:55Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > It was a Chrome extension, but I suppose it could just easily be written as a GM script, making it available for FF users. The original thread is here: [Mafia players: SD Mafia Tools (Chrome extension) - The Game Room - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633629) > > I did manage to recover my latest version, which might be slightly newer than what’s posted in that thread, but it uses an outdated manifest structure that Chrome no longer supports, so I’ll have to re-write it at some point. If there’s interest in collaboration, I could upload the source to a public git repo or something. Update: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15936003&postcount=15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15936003&postcount=15) ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/448 "2013-01-25T12:52:50Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > I think you are way over-estimating town’s abilities if you think they are alert and are comparing them to competent drivers. I certainly agree that it is important for everyone to be on record, but it seems in recent games that town is reluctant to enforce this. Scum lurk because lurking works. Only because when town comes out on Day 1 talking they end up with votes allowing the scum to lurk. That is why Day 1 unless we have more to go on than some hunch we should vote for lurkers. I made a post or two and garnered votes, how does that encourage town to talk? Just use me as an example I was collecting votes like shit attracts flies I shutup and no new votes since. So my vote will go on the he/she who lurks the most Day 1, with my vote being placed sometime today. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/449 "2013-01-25T13:33:15Z")
DAY ONE VOTE COUNT – FRIDAY 1/25 **NOTE: I should have said this in the rules, but there are NO powers that affect voting in any way in this game. Therefore, if you see an irregularity in the vote count, it’s because I screwed it up. Please feel free to point it out if that happens, because with the number of votes going on, it’s inevitably going to.** **Chucara** (7 votes) – Lightfoot (300), Texcat (334), Mahaloth (337), Silver Jan (351), fubbleskag (361), Babale (367), orthohedron (434) **Askthepizzaguy** (5 votes) – choie (312), Texcat (334), Silver Jan (351), Johnny Bravo (392), Meeko (436) **Babale** (3 votes) – Stanislaus (236), Suburban Plankton (369), gnarlycharly (373) **orthohedron** (3 votes) – DiggitCamara (244), Chucara (327), Askthepizzaguy (328) **Johnny Bravo** (3 votes) – USCDiver (289), Askthepizzaguy (389), Mahaloth (407) **RedSkeezix** (2 votes) - Askthepizzaguy (215), Enderw24 (233) **Ryjae** (2 votes) - GuiriEnEspana (220), Cookies (301) **choie** (1 vote) - GuiriEnEspana (220) **Pleonast** (1 vote) – Johnny Bravo (225) **USCDiver** (1 vote) – Astral Rejection (229) **Mahaloth** (1 vote) – wombat99 (238) **Enderw24** (1 vote) – RedSkeezix (245) **wombat99** (1 vote) – Cookies (301) **Stanislaus** (1 vote) – Cookies (301) **GuiriEnEspana** (1 vote) – choie (332) **DiggitCamara** (1 vote) – Texcat (334) **Cookies** (1 vote) – Stanislaus (352) **Pleonast** (1 vote) - Meeko (436) **fubbleskag** (1 vote) – Dizzymrslizzy (439) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/450 "2013-01-25T13:46:22Z")
You listed **Pleonast** twice, for one vote each. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/451 "2013-01-25T13:48:34Z")
Told you I’d screw up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/452 "2013-01-25T15:08:10Z")
[QUOTE=Vote Counting Robot] Oh dear, that is not a [giraffeboards.com](http://giraffeboards.com) URL. I’m afraid I can only serve my master. [/quote] :shakes fist: Darn you longed necked devil! I want to say again that I’m not adverse to multi-voting, per se. But yet another downside to it is it really starts to exponentially complicate the whole vote tracking we need to analyse. “Don’t worry,” some have suggested, “It’s Story’s job to take care of that.” But it’s not. Not really. Story needs to figure out who’s getting lynched. That’s all. He doesn’t really care about officially tracking things like unvotes which is something we as players care an awful lot about. Throwing 5 votes out there, unvoting 3, and then voting for 2 more lets a whole lot of things slip under the radar when the “official” vote counter comes out if we’re not paying attention. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/453 "2013-01-25T15:46:28Z")
> [@Chucara](#): > > I believe Pizza first conceived the plan at the end of the last game on the Giraffe. The game had ended, and he was scum. > > Not that I think it matters at all. > > **unvote Babale** > > I’m actually quite pleased with your reaction to my vote. Or.. at least it doesn’t strike me as scummy. I still don’t agree or see your reasoning, but I’m used to drawing attention on day one, so no worries. > > I’ll ponder my next move for a while. God, I hate it when this happens. Here I am, all confident in my vote for you, and you throw this curveball at me. Or rather, you don’t. I’m not sure exactly how to explain it, since its more of a gut sense, but I don’t read Scum here. Ignoring my opinion regarding your original vote, I just don’t see why, as Scum, you would go for an OMGUS vote and then take it off once I explain myself. That just makes no sense to me, and I’m no longer comfortable with my vote on you. So **Unvote Chucara** , but I’m keeping my eye on you. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/454 "2013-01-25T16:39:48Z")
After rereading through, I’m still not seeing any scum motivations nor getting any scummy vibes from anyone. So that means no votes from me, at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/455 "2013-01-25T16:47:11Z")
I’m not feeling all that much yet, either. I figure that’s intentional; Day 1, we’re looking for _any_ excuse to lynch someone. When I catch up after work today, I’m gonna pay a little extra attention to folks what’re staying out of dust-ups and conflicts, see if anything catches my eye. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/456 "2013-01-25T16:48:48Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > DAY ONE VOTE COUNT – FRIDAY 1/25 seeing the votes consolidated like this really brings into light how scattershot Day 1 voting is when multi-vote is an option > [@Enderw24](#): > > :shakes fist: Darn you longed necked devil! can you link me to the vote counting robot you use elsewhere? I might be able to modify it for use here. > [@Babale](#): > > God, I hate it when this happens. Here I am, all confident in my vote for you, and you throw this curveball at me. Or rather, you don’t. I’m not sure exactly how to explain it, since its more of a gut sense, but I don’t read Scum here. Ignoring my opinion regarding your original vote, **I just don’t see why, as Scum, you would go for an OMGUS vote and then take it off once I explain myself**. That just makes no sense to me, and I’m no longer comfortable with my vote on you. So > > Unvote Chucara, but I’m keeping my eye on you. purely as devil’s advocate, a scum could do that in order to look active without committing - I’m not saying that’s what **Chucara** is doing, but it’s not uncommon in my (admittedly limited) experience; in fact, I’m hoping a better lynch candidate will present itself before EOD ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/457 "2013-01-25T17:45:02Z")
You can read about it here: > **[New automatic vote counting script - The Giraffe Boards](https://www.giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=22326)** > > New automatic vote counting script Mafia Central And the page is here: > **[The Giraffe Boards](https://www.giraffeboards.com/mafia_votecount.php)** > > A fun, free message board which isn't actually about giraffes at all. Not sure where the code is. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/458 "2013-01-25T18:00:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Okay, noted, but help me understand why my backing down is ridiculous but not the people above mentioned. It’s not the backing down as it is the open “cowering”. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/459 "2013-01-25T18:56:41Z")
Well, I thought I was just being cheeky, but I’ll accept the note and move on. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/460 "2013-01-25T20:34:35Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > “It’s Story’s job to take care of that.” But it’s not. Not really. Story needs to figure out who’s getting lynched. That’s all. He doesn’t really care about officially tracking things like unvotes which is something we as players care an awful lot about. I believe that was me who said that, and we only know that Story is cherry picking actual current votes for his votecounts now that we’ve actually had an official vote count. I was being optimistic that his vote counts, as they are in many games, would track unvotes as well, but I see he’d rather throw a grenade into a room full of paranoid people instead. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=24)