# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/921 "2013-02-07T17:54:57Z")

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From \*\* choie \*\* snipped and bolded

> [@](#):
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> I was not focusing on our Vigilante **. I was focusing on the third dude or dudette, telling us nothing we don’t know (a SK’s standard win con)**, but somehow wanting us to know that s/he knows there’s an SK. And as far as I’m concerned that’s gotta be Scum, because a Townie would’ve told us something of more value.

To be clear- it’s not the win con referenced in the third message it’s “ Scum can’t kill the SK “ which is not ‘standard’  
For \*\* Astral \*\*

> [@](#):
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> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by LightFoot  
> in my head they are more likely truthful – as Scum would – perhaps- save theirs ---- unless we have a Scum that was under some pressure and thought they would be lynched today so they used it before death

> [@](#):
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> Why did you never follow up on this thought and take a look through the thread for this potential near-death scum?

I have yet to find anything conclusive but I continue to ponder – just didn’t post more about it- actually I thought no one cared

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/922 "2013-02-07T18:00:58Z")

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_Could_ you post more about it? I care. 🙂

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/923 "2013-02-07T18:01:39Z")

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Day 2 votecounts wef post 921.

Nine votes.[ul][li]Chucara :Texcat (733), DiggitCamara (804), Choie (805), LightFoot (835), Wombat99 (851), USCDiver (852), Mahaloth (863), Astral Rejection (891), Dizzy (918)[/li][/ul]

Six votes[ul][li]choie : guiri (712), [del]DiggitCamara (+758) (-768)[/del], Stanislaus (786), Enderw24 (788), [del]choie (+795) (-910), Mahaloth (799), [del]USCDiver (+800) (-852)[/del], Meeko (817), [del]Johnny Bravo (+866) (-870)[/del], [del]Astral Rejection (+871) (-887)[/del], Suburban Plankton (890)[/li][/ul]

Four votes.[ul][li]texcat : guiri (712), Chucara (815), Astral Rejection (874), Suburban Plankton (894)[/li][/ul]

Three votes.[ul][li]fubbleskag : DiggitCamara (836), Enderw24 (846), Astral Rejection (876)[/li][li]guiri : choie (795), Silver Jan (822), Wombat99 (851)[/li][/ul]

Two votes.[ul][li]Babale : Stanislaus (786), Wombat99 (851)[/li][li]Wombat99 : fubbleaskag (882), Johnny Bravo (900)[/li][/ul]

One vote.[ul][li]Enderw24 : Choie (905)[/li][li]Johnny Bravo : Choie (867)[/li][li]|LightFoot : Red Skeezix (864)[/li][li]Mahaloth : Red Skeezix (864)[/li][li]Red Skeezix : Johnny Bravo (866)[/li][li]Silver Jan : guiri (712)[/li][li]Stanislaus : DarkCookies (816)[/li][li]Suburban Plankton : DiggitCamara (759)[/li][/ul]

No votes.[ul][li]DiggitCamara : [del]Silver Jan (+761) (-818)[/del], [del]Mahaloth (+763) (-)794[/del], [del]Texcat (+764) (-801)[/del], [del]Dizzy (+765) (-838)[/del], [del]Johnny Bravo (+787) (-866)[/li][li]USCDiver : Red Skeezix (+864) (-868)[/li][/ul]

This comes with the standard “The messenger is not perfect” caveat, so please let me know if I’ve missed one.

There’s about an hour to go, assuming I’ve done my timezone conversions correctly.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/924 "2013-02-07T18:17:51Z")

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I don’t suppose anyone has kept a post count for Day 2?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/925 "2013-02-07T18:27:39Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> _Could_ you post more about it? I care. 🙂

\*\* chucara-  
ryjae-  
babale  
\*\*  
All ended the Day with some pressure-

some Scum approach the game fatalistically

“ they’re going to find me out and lynch me- I just know it”

D1 pressure amplifies that

I’ve already thrown rocks at \*\* chuc \*\* and I’m slowly digging in the gardens of the others

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/926 "2013-02-07T18:29:32Z")

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> [@fubbleskag](#):
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> You’re right, you have repeated over and over why you think revealing early is better than later; and multiple people who are far more experienced mafia players than myself have pointed out why late claiming masons are more valuable to town. I’m curious why you’ve repeatedly ignored these people. There has to be a reason. I queried you based on the first two possible reasons I could think of. You keep saying you’re happy to answer questions and make clarifications, and yet for the most part you haven’t provided either. If you eventually flip town mason, I’ll be quite thrilled, but at this point I’m skeptical.

How new are you to the game of Mafia? Serious question. Your posts regarding the Mason claim do definitely ping my fish-o-meter (speaking of which, I’m surprised Meeko hasn’t accused you of fishing yet as he is quite fond of that particular accusation), but I’ve been giving you some room assuming you haven’t played a lot as it is a null tell between scummers/pfks, or eager information-hungry newbies, or information-hungry power roles to go fishing for information.

Another little nugget of advice that many experienced players will give you is to let Power roles play their role and you play yours. Whether it is Suburban who is actually a Townie Mason as he claims with some sort of perfect information that has him advocating an early reveal, or a stealthy band of Townie Masons staying quiet in spite of a scummy Suburban baiting them to claim and they are not taking the bait, it is often a good idea to give them some room to do so. They’re making informed decisions about their roles. It sucks when you can’t see into magic bags and black boxes, but that’s the game. Satisfying your burning curiosities shouldn’t be a high priority for anyone else.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/927 "2013-02-07T18:34:22Z")

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> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#):
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> Whether it is Suburban who is actually a Townie Mason as he claims with some sort of perfect information that has him advocating an early reveal, or a stealthy band of Townie Masons staying quiet in spite of a scummy Suburban baiting them to claim and they are not taking the bait, it is often a good idea to give them some room to do so. They’re making informed decisions about their roles. It sucks when you can’t see into magic bags and black boxes, but that’s the game. Satisfying your burning curiosities shouldn’t be a high priority for anyone else.

Hold the phone. Is this a really weird mixup of **Suburban** with **DiggitCamera** , or did I miss yet another bit of important information and **Suburban** has _also_ claimed Mason?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/928 "2013-02-07T18:43:23Z")

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**Suburban** definitely didn’t claim Mason.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/929 "2013-02-07T18:57:45Z")

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> [@Chucara](#):
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> I won’t vote. You guys seems so set on lynching me that there is no reason for me to try to keep myself alive.

I’m not a fan at all of this recent trend of “Fine! You’re all determined to vote for me…I’m just gonna take my ball and go home then!” thinking…

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/930 "2013-02-07T19:00:09Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I don’t suppose anyone has kept a post count for Day 2?

Count for Posts 707-930:

Astral Rejection 23  
choie 22  
fubbleskag 16  
Suburban Plankton 16  
CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 15  
DiggitCamara 15  
Johnny Bravo 14  
USCDiver 14  
Mahaloth 10  
Enderw24 9  
Lightfoot 9  
Meeko 7  
Silver Jan 7  
TexCat 7  
Chucara 5  
Dizzymrslizzy 5  
Stanislaus 5  
Askthepizzaguy 3  
GuiriEnEspana 3  
RedSkeezix 3  
Babale 1  
gnarlycharly 1  
orthohedron 1  
wombat99 1  
RyJae 0

Standard disclaimers apply.  
And I most definitely did not claim Mason (or any other role)

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/931 "2013-02-07T19:02:09Z")

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Too late to vote for myself?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/932 "2013-02-07T19:02:49Z")

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Yes that was a mix up. My bad. All questions to fubbs still apply.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/933 "2013-02-07T19:10:56Z")

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\<oog\> I feel like I haven’t said much this cycle as work has had me burried, but I’m still up there in the fat head somehow. One of these days when we’re all on vacation or something I’d like to play a near-real-time game full of loquacious loudmouths such as myself, Pizza, RoOsh et al. I’d say that I’d also like to observe a game full of BillMc’s lobbing in grenades once a week, but I’m afraid I’d just take a month-long nap. I suppose it takes a village of unique snowflakes to make a good mixed game of both. \</oog\>

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/934 "2013-02-07T19:14:14Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Too late to vote for myself?

Too late by 2 minutes, according to my clock. But we can pencil you in for Tomorrow 🙂

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/935 "2013-02-07T19:15:42Z")

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**Dusk, Day Two**

_EXT – The Town square, as the sun sets. **Choie** stands atop the gallows, alone._

CHOIE  
Hey, you guys – lynch me! I vote me!

_She slides the noose around her own neck._

CHOIE  
Look – look how well it fits! I vote me! Lynch me!

_PAN ACROSS – The crowd. They look diffident._

CHOIE  
OK, fine. Don’t lynch me. Chucara! I no longer vote me!

TEXCAT  
Chucara! Let’s lynch Chucara!

DIGGITCAMARA  
IALLC. That stands for I agree; lets lynch Chucara!

MAHALOTH  
Quickly; the season premiere of _Survivor_ is on tonight!

_A flurry of activity. **Chucara** is led to the noose, earning a friendly pat on the shoulder as he passes Choie on the way up. Noose, trapdoor, swing, sunset… and nothing._

ASKTHEPIZZAGUY  
Ha! Swing and miss! See, it’s a pun! Because he’s swinging, and you missed, and also it’s a metaphor… from a sport… that… won’t be invented for 200 years. Never mind.

_ **Pizzaguy** busies himself looking for a lost eyeball, which has popped out., as we FADE TO BLACK._

**Chucara** , a Peasant Redshirt, has been lynchified.

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Night Two begins here, and will end on Saturday, February 9 at 2:00PM Eastern. Non-strategic discussion only from here until then. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/936 "2013-02-07T19:19:53Z")

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Well that’s me fucked then. Sorry **Chucara**.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/937 "2013-02-07T19:39:12Z")

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blarg

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/938 "2013-02-07T19:44:09Z")

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Godspeed, **Chucara.**

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/939 "2013-02-07T19:55:42Z")

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Crap, I wish he’d never made a pancake vote.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/940 "2013-02-07T20:04:34Z")

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> [@Silver\_Jan](#):
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> Crap, I wish he’d never made a pancake vote.

HAHAHA

:: pulls out Scum to English Dictionary::

Holy crap everyone. Turns out “vote pancake” translates to “I am scum and I have clearly identified myself as such.”

::flip::

Interesting. “Vote Belgian Waffles” actually translates to “I have learned from the moderator who three of the scum are. Allow me to state them for you now”

Bad luck Chucara. You were so close.

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