# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1261 "2013-02-16T22:57:19Z")
The mason claim is approaching magic bag status \*\* guiri \*\* did not acknowledge \*\* diggit \*\* \* although I don’t recall him discounting the claim either \* I’ll go find the vote counts to check. \*\* diggit \*\* if \*\* guiri \*\* left any bread crumbs for you this might just be the time to point them out to us ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1262 "2013-02-16T23:28:22Z")
I’m not sure I follow you, **LightFoot**. \*\*Diggit \*\*has claimed the “OWT – Let’s reveal ourselves – TTW” Barn message from Night 1 stating the second T at the end is Third. Given that \*\*Guiri \*\*has been revealed as “The First Witch” I feel fairly confident that \*\*Diggit’s \*\*claim is valid and he is “The Third Witch.” As for what OWT is supposed to stand for, I dunno, doesn’t really matter. I would assume there is “The Second Witch” out there somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1263 "2013-02-16T23:50:20Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > And on a completely different note… If there are only Two remaining Masons with one dead and one already claimed, it’s probably time for the third to come forward and confirm Diggit. I really, really, really disagree with this. We now know absolutely that there are mason/witches in the game. Diggit has said there are 3 of them. I think Diggit is now 99.9% confirmed, since Guiri did not counter him. And the second witch will be 99.8% confirmed if there is no counter when they claim. There is no reason to claim and make yourself a night target. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1264 "2013-02-16T23:53:56Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > I really, really, really disagree with this. We now know absolutely that there are mason/witches in the game. Diggit has said there are 3 of them. I think Diggit is now 99.9% confirmed, since Guiri did not counter him. And the second witch will be 99.8% confirmed if there is no counter when they claim. There is no reason to claim and make yourself a night target. TexCat here has the right of it. Scum would still be playing the “claim/counterclaim game,” which is just fine for town. Cooking up a new updated-and-colored vote chart. We have a fair number of names to color in, which should point to people what need further examining. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1265 "2013-02-17T00:25:00Z")
**Day 1** Askthepizzaguy vf Red Skeezix, 215 GuiriEnEspaña vf choie, RyJae, 220 Johnny Bravo vf Pleonast, 225 Astral Rejection vf USCDiver, LightFoot, 229 Mahaloth vf RyJae, 231 Enderw24 vf Red Skeezix, 233 Stanislaus vf Babale, 236 wombat99 vf Mahaloth, 238 DiggitCamara vf orthohedron, 244 Astral Rejection [del]unvote LightFoot[/del], 252 orthohedron vf wombat99, 284 USCDiver vf Johnny Bravo, 289 LightFoot vf Chucara, 300 Cometothedarkside…cookies vf RyJae, Stanislaus, wombat99, 301 choie vf Askthepizzaguy, 312 Chucara vf orthohedron, 327 Askthepizzaguy vf orthohedron, 328 choie vf GuiriEnEspaña, 332 TexCat vf DiggitCamara, Chucara, Askthepizzaguy, 334 Mahaloth [del]unvote RyJae[/del], vf Chucara, 337 Red Skeezix vf Ender24, 345 Silver Jan vf Chucara, Askthepizzaguy, 351 Stanislaus vf Cometothedarkside…Cookies, 352 fubbleskag vf USCDiver, Chucara, GuiriEnEspaña, 361 Babale vf Chucara, Askthepizzaguy, 367 Suburban Plankton vf Babale, 369 gnarlycharlie vf Babale, 373 Askthepizzaguy vf Johnny Bravo, 389 Johnny Bravo vf Askthepizzaguy, 392 Mahaloth vf Johnny Bravo, 407 Chucara vf Babale, 422 Babale [del]unvote Askthepizzaguy[/del], 426 Chucara [del]unvote Babale[/del], 427 orthohedron unvote Wombat99, vf Chucara, 434 Meeko vf Pleonast, Askthepizzaguy, 436 Dizzymrslizzy vf fubbleskag, 439 fubbleskag [del]unvote GuiriEnEspaña, USCDiver[/del], 445 Babale [del]unvote Chucara[/del], 453 RyJae vf Val Salva, 466 Meeko [del]unvote Pleonast, Askthepizzaguy[/del], vf Cometothedarkside…Cookies, 472 Meeko vf fubbleskag, 493 Askthepizzaguy vf RyJae, 505 RyJae vf Askthepizzaguy, 508 Astral Rejection vf Chucara, Askthepizzaguy, RyJae, 514 Astral Rejection unvote USCDiver, 515 orthohedron vf Askthepizzaguy, 524 Johnny Bravo [del]unvote Pleonast[/del], 537 USCDiver [del]unvote Johnny Bravo[/del], vf Askthepizzaguy, 544 Stanislaus vf RyJae, 545 Dizzymrslizzy vf Askthepizzaguy, 546 Suburban Plankton vf RyJae, 549 GuiriEnEspaña vf Silver Jan, TexCat, 553 Pleonast vf Askthepizzaguy, RyJae, 557 Chucara vf RyJae, 559 TexCat vf GuiriEnEspaña, 583 Suburban Plankton vf Chucara, 591 Pleonast vf USCDiver, 599 Astral Rejection [del]unvote RyJae[/del], 609 wombat99 vf Chucara, Bable, 612 Chucara vf Askthepizzaguy, 614 Stanislaus [del]unvote RyJae, Cometothedarkside…Cookies[/del], 616 Red Skeezix vf Babale, Chucara, 619 Astral Rejection [del]unvote Chucara[/del], 624 Pleonast [del]unvote USCDiver[/del], vf Chucara, 625 Suburban Plankton vf Pleonast, Askthepizzaguy, 629 Suburban Plankton [del]unvote Chucara[/del], 631 Suburban Plankton [del]unvote Pleonast[/del], 641 Lynch: Askthepizzaguy, Town Peasant Redshirt Night Kill: Val Salva, Town Peasant Redshirt Night Kill: Pleonast, Town Butcher (Vigilante) Returned: **Askthepizzaguy** **Day 2** GuiriEnEspaña vf choie, Silver Jan, TexCat, 712 TexCat vf Chucara, 733 DiggitCamara vf choie, 758 DiggitCamara vf Suburban Plankton, 759 Silver Jan vf DiggitCamara, 761 Mahaloth vf DiggitCamara, 763 TexCat vf DiggitCamara, 764 Dizzymrslizzy vf DiggitCamara, 765 DiggitCamara [del]unvote choie[/del], 768 Stanislaus vf Babale, choie, 786 Johnny Bravo vf DiggitCamara, 787 Enderw24 vf choie, 788 Mahaloth [del]unvote DiggitCamara[/del], 794 choie vf choie, GuiriEnEspaña, 795 Mahaloth vf choie, 799 USCDiver vf choie, 800 TexCat [del]unvote DiggitCamara[/del], 801 DiggitCamara vf Chucara, 804 choie vf Chucara, 805 Chucara vf TexCat, 815 Cometothedarkside…Cookies vf Stanislaus, 816 Meeko vf choie, 817 Silver Jan [del]unvote DiggitCamara[/del], 818 Silver Jan vf GuiriEnEspaña, 822 LightFoot vf Chucara, 835 DiggitCamara vf fubbleskag, 836 Dizzymrslizzy [del]unvote DiggitCamara[/del], 838 Enderw24 vf fubbleskag, 846 wombat99 vf GuiriEnEspaña, Chucara, Babale, 851 USCDiver [del]unvote choie[/del], vf Chucara, 852 Mahaloth vf Chucara, 863 Red Skeezix vf LightFoot, Mahaloth, USCDiver, 864 Johnny Bravo [del]unvote DiggitCamara[/del], vf choie, Red Skeezix, 866 choie vf Johnny Bravo, **Weedy** 867 Red Skeezix [del]unvote USCDiver[/del], 868 Astral Rejection vf choie, 871 Astral Rejection vf TexCat, 874 Astral Rejection vf fubbleskag, 876 fubbleskag vf wombat99, 882 Astral Rejection [del]unvote choie[/del], 887 Suburban Plankton vf choie, 890 Astral Rejection vf Chucara, 891 Suburban Plankton vf TexCat, 894 choie [del]unvote **Weedy** [/del], 895 Johnny Bravo vf wombat99, 900 choie vf Enderw24, 905 choie [del]unvote choie[/del], 910 Dizzymrslizzy vf Chucara, 918 Lynch: Chucara, Town Peasant Redshirt Nightkill: Silver Jan, Town Peasant Redshirt Nightkill: Enderw24, Town Peasant Redshirt Nightkill: RyJae, Town Peasant Redshirt **Day 3** Cometothedarkside…Cookies vf Stanislaus, 963 Dizzymrslizzy vf Stanislaus, 967 choie vf Stanislaus, 970 GuiriEnEspaña vf Stanislaus, 971 Mahaloth vf Stanislaus, 982 TexCat vf Stanislaus, 1009 fubbleskag vf wombat99, 1016 choie [del]unvote Stanislaus[/del], 1020 Astral Rejection vf TexCat, Dizzymrslizzy, 1032 fubbleskag vf choie, 1042 Cometothedarkside…Cookies vf Mahaloth, TexCat, Dizzymrslizzy, Johnny Bravo, 1043 TexCat vf Astral Rejection, Cometothedarkside…Cookies, 1059 GuiriEnEspaña vf fubbleskag, choie, TexCat, Mahaloth gnarlycharlie vf Babale, Dizzymrslizzy, LightFoot, Meeko, GuirEnEspaña, 1068 DiggitCamara vf Stanislaus, 1072 DiggitCamara vf choie, 1076 LightFoot vf Babale, 1087 USCDiver vf Stanislaus, 1106 Suburban Plankton vf Stanislaus, 1122 fubbleskag vf Dizzymrslizzy, 1134 fubbleskag vf Stanislaus, 1135 Meeko vf Cometothedarkside…Cookies, 1136 Astral Rejection vf wombat99, 1143 Johnny Bravo vf Stanislaus, 1161 Stanislaus vf dizzymrslizzy, 1162 choie vf DiggitCamara, GuiriEnEspaña, USCDiver, 1193 Dizzymrslizzy vf choie, 1201 Red Skeezix vf Mahaloth, Stanislaus, 1203 gnarlycharlie [del]unvote GuiriEnEspaña[/del], 1210 wombat99 vf Stanislaus, Astral Rejection, 1214 Lynch: “Stanlislaus,” The Werewolf That Even Freaks Out the Other Werewolves Night Kill: GuiriEnEspaña, Town Mason (now I can finally stop typing that fancy “ñ”) Night Kill: choie, Town Peasant Redshirt ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1266 "2013-02-17T00:51:24Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > I really, really, really disagree with this. We now know absolutely that there are mason/witches in the game. Diggit has said there are 3 of them. I think Diggit is now 99.9% confirmed, since Guiri did not counter him. And the second witch will be 99.8% confirmed if there is no counter when they claim. There is no reason to claim and make yourself a night target. I agree with regards to being a Night target, but having two confirmed Town is helpful during the Day, knowing we can trust what they say to be genuine. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1267 "2013-02-17T01:02:07Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > I’m not sure I follow you, **LightFoot**. \*\*Diggit \*\*has claimed the “OWT – Let’s reveal ourselves – TTW” Barn message from Night 1 stating the second T at the end is Third. Given that \*\*Guiri \*\*has been revealed as “The First Witch” I feel fairly confident that \*\*Diggit’s \*\*claim is valid and he is “The Third Witch.” As for what OWT is supposed to stand for, I dunno, doesn’t really matter. I would assume there is “The Second Witch” out there somewhere. \*\* guiri \*\* has left this plane IF he left a bread crumb it can only re-enforce \*\* diggit’s \*\* claim It doesn’t out a living playerl ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1268 "2013-02-17T01:10:52Z")
I don’t think Diggit’s claim really needs reinforcing right now. I’m not sure what you’re getting at, Lightfoot. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1269 "2013-02-17T01:59:05Z")
Interesting. The Barn is certainly a cool mechanism; I’m going to have to steal that and use it in a game I make in the future. > [@TexCat](#): > > I really, really, really disagree with this. We now know absolutely that there are mason/witches in the game. Diggit has said there are 3 of them. I think Diggit is now 99.9% confirmed, since Guiri did not counter him. And the second witch will be 99.8% confirmed if there is no counter when they claim. There is no reason to claim and make yourself a night target. I agree with Texcat entirely. The other remaining mason should remain quiet for now. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1270 "2013-02-17T02:00:06Z")
By quiet, I mean don’t claim. Feel free to talk. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1271 "2013-02-17T02:53:23Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Interesting. The Barn is certainly a cool mechanism; I’m going to have to steal that and use it in a game I make in the future. > > I agree with Texcat entirely. The other remaining mason should remain quiet for now. I think our remaining Mason should choose by him/herself, and not listen to this discussion at all. On the other hand, I had a little pet theory that meant that the lowest posting Player was killed each Night. I guess it’s wrong, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t urge them to post. I don’t know anything about you, **orthohedron** , so I hope you don’t mind if I **vote orthohedron** Any other “invisible” players? ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1272 "2013-02-17T03:02:02Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > The mason claim is approaching magic bag status > \*\* guiri \*\* did not acknowledge \*\* diggit \*\* \* although I don’t recall him discounting the claim either \* > I’ll go find the vote counts to check. > > \*\* diggit \*\* if \*\* guiri \*\* left any bread crumbs for you this might just be the time to point them out to us No breadcrumbs I noticed. But after all, some people already noticed that Guiri’s id is in line with my barn message; I think that should suffice. Any hints as to the identity of my second com(p)adre (aka Witch) would necessarily be picked up by the wolf pack, so I don’t think it would be wise for me to breadcrumb at all. Which would make my death by Night worrisome… that would be the only reason at all for him/herself to out him/herself during this Day. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1273 "2013-02-17T03:07:57Z")
Well, let’s get this show on the road. I think we’re beginning to finally have some real data to chew on. Thanks for the list, **Astral**. I went through it and crossed it against post counts (I haven’t been keeping a running tally so I just used the total posts for the thread). We have a few players who have definitely been flying under the radar and I want to have a conversation about them. By my count there are 17 players left. I looked at the voting tallies for the bottom quarter of us. ```auto Astral Rejection 140 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 120 USCDiver 84 Johnny Bravo 73 LightFoot 67 fubbleskag 56 Suburban Plankton 56 Mahaloth 49 Meeko 47 DiggitCamara 31 Dizzymrslizzy 30 TexCat 26 orthohedron 23 Babale (14) (two votes, two unvotes) wombat99 (11)(eight votes, one unvote) Red Skeezix (9) (eight votes) gnarlycharlie (5) (six votes, one unvote) ``` Those vote numbers were done by a very scientific ctrl+f scan by me through Astral’s list, so I’m kind of assuming that the formatting is consistent throughout. I may be off, especially if I missed an instance where somebody voted and unvoted in the same thread. I also went back and subtracted pre-day posts for the bottom four. That’s why those numbers are in parenthesis. Two things strike me: 1. \*\*Babale \*\*failed to actually vote for anyone. He cancelled the only two votes he cast. 2. The other three have a lot of votes compared to their posts. \*\*Gnarlycharlie \*\* actually has voted \*\*more \*\*than he’s posted. They’re all casting lots of votes while generating very little in the way of cases or info that we can look at later. Right now I’d like to hear about why these players have been so unwilling to build cases. I’d especially like to hear why \*\*Babale \*\*hasn’t seen fit to actually participate in any of the lynches. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1274 "2013-02-17T03:17:30Z")
While I’m at it, I’m going to go ahead and: **Vote Babale Vote gnarlycharlie** for the above reasons. I also think **Wombat99** and **Red Skeezix** also need to show up and start participating, but for now Babale and Charlie are my top two picks out of those four. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1275 "2013-02-17T03:25:09Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > No breadcrumbs I noticed. But after all, some people already noticed that Guiri’s id is in line with my barn message; I think that should suffice. > > Any hints as to the identity of my second com(p)adre (aka Witch) would necessarily be picked up by the wolf pack, so I don’t think it would be wise for me to breadcrumb at all. Which would make my death by Night worrisome… that would be the only reason at all for him/herself to out him/herself during this Day. it appears I as miss understood AGAIN ( it’a a pattern) as a mason it the past I/we have left little clues that other masons could point to - in the event of a death - to prove we were a team- that’s what i was asking for- ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1276 "2013-02-17T04:31:00Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > I agree with regards to being a Night target, but having two confirmed Town is helpful during the Day, knowing we can trust what they say to be genuine. You can trust them, but that doesn’t give them any better knowledge or make them any smarter than the rest of town. So this is actually of almost no benefit to town. **vote: USCDiver** ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1277 "2013-02-17T06:01:20Z")
For better or worse, I’m still leaning Town on Babale. I still don’t see a scum or third party motivation for the Day 1 paranoia on the barn, and Stan The Now Known Scum was voting for her (is Babale a her or a he?) out of the gate on Days 1 and 2. If Diggit ends up getting killed without overtly confirming the third Mason/Witch, then the third is effectively vanilla, unless s/he can point to some sort of covertly confirming breadcrumb or secret code that the rest of us will swallow. Since they can’t apparently communicate, I would think any covert options are going to be limited. Losing Diggit would suck and I certainly hope it doesn’t happen, but I felt the same way about Guiri when I didn’t know what he was too, and low and behold he ended up dead all of a sudden. Two confirmed and trusted players being able to coordinate in public can be useful. Do I know for a fact that they would prove to be useful in our current situation? No, but I don’t really like Texcat’s vote on USCDiver for simply arguing the other side of the strategic coin from the strategy that she’s arguing, which is to keep the third Mason under wraps. Both strategies have their potential advantages so I don’t see one over the other as worthy of a vote. So Texcat, what else do you have on USCDiver? This is the first time you’ve voted for him. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1278 "2013-02-17T06:31:52Z")
Well, technically vanilla, but still generally unlynchable, which is the point of a masonry. Diggit’s death without revealing his partner is the same as if he had revealed. When the claiming comes due, that person will say “I’m the last mason.” A lack of a counterclaim will “prove” their claim. Scum will not falsely claim to be that last mason, because they’re offering up a team member for a lynching if they do. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1279 "2013-02-17T07:31:43Z")
Unlynchable I’ll give you. Wasting something like a Cop investigation on the third mason when we could catch scum or the SK with it instead would be not so good though. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1280 "2013-02-17T13:17:40Z")
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