# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1301 "2013-02-19T14:32:24Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > And I feel further and further out playing in left field with each one. … To the point that I’m not sure if the other team is still at bat or not. > > Perhaps not SO much on this game specifically, but this game was the one that made me see everything. OOG/ Meek- FWIW, I really enjoy playing with you, and your presence here has been noticed and missed. I think you are a good player, and would love to hear more of your thoughts here… /OOG ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1302 "2013-02-19T14:38:04Z")
I also want to put **Choie** back on the table for voting **Diggit** a “claimed Mason” yesterDay. **Vote: Choie** She never responded (I think she’s a she) why she was voting Diggit knowing that he has claimed Mason. From my POV, there’s not a good reason to vote him unless you don’t believe his claim…and I didn’t see her say that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1303 "2013-02-19T14:40:45Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > I also want to put **Choie** back on the table for voting **Diggit** a “claimed Mason” yesterDay. \*\*Choie’s \*\*dead, bro. She was also town. ---
**Author:** ![orthohedron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ba8739/32.png) [@orthohedron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orthohedron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1304 "2013-02-19T14:41:44Z")
Caprcious and arbitrary… Seinfeld much? Anyway did you even read my post about the Stan thing? I said I wasn’t defending anyone, it was more of a caution against this infightg and hasty random witch hunting. Whoever argues hardest gets lynched. I see where this is going though so if I go out Storyteller please note that my last official act before being lynched will be to write I told you so on my red shirt. I’m on my non BBCode friendly phone browser so I’ll wait till I get off work to post my blue votes. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1305 "2013-02-19T14:50:44Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > \*\*Choie’s \*\*dead, bro. She was also town. Okay I’m dumb…I went back a few pages and was reading yesterday’s cases, and thinking about where I wanted to vote today… I saw my vote on her yesterday and said “Ah HA I thought this was off yesterday” **Unvote: Choie** ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1306 "2013-02-19T15:05:08Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > USCDiver… you are voting him for “protecting known scum” Wasn’t everyone jumping on my back (you included) FOR believing the barn post? **Stan** is only “known scum” now…So anyone protecting/not protection him, how are we to know whether they had the knowledge of whether they were “known” or not. > > To me that looks like a slip that you and Orthohedron both knew (because you both are on the same team) that Stan was a wolf/Scum, and that’s how you can point the finger at him that he was “protecting Known scum” > > So for that: > **Vote: USCDiver** > **Vote: Orthohedron** WHAT!!?? Please go back and re-read Day 3 and when you find that I never so much as quoted or mentioned you in a post (except to explain how to bookmark a page near the end of the Day) I expect you to retract that vote. Also please re-read the case I made against **orthohedron**. The ‘defending scum’ part is just a small portion of why I’m voting him. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1307 "2013-02-19T15:46:24Z")
> [@orthohedron](#): > > Caprcious and arbitrary… Seinfeld much? Anyway did you even read my post about the Stan thing? I said I wasn’t defending anyone, it was more of a caution against this infightg and hasty random witch hunting. Whoever argues hardest gets lynched. I see where this is going though so if I go out Storyteller please note that my last official act before being lynched will be to write I told you so on my red shirt. I’m on my non BBCode friendly phone browser so I’ll wait till I get off work to post my blue votes. It’s cool man, but it sucks that it took a couple of votes to get you to post and (promise to) vote. Can you tell us all why you didn’t vote for the last two Days? ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1308 "2013-02-19T16:29:22Z")
**Vote wombat99** Same thing (almost). Has a few more votes than ortho; has been otherwise invisible. I’m starting to think we’ve stumbled on a non-participatory scum conclave, folks! ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1309 "2013-02-19T17:05:00Z")
And don’t forget Skeezix. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1310 "2013-02-19T17:26:23Z")
@ orthohedron, RE: his vote on USCDiver I believe USCDiver is using “known scum” as “we-now-know-to-be-Known Scum.” It’s a bit disingenuous to hold “current” knowledge against him when there’s really no other way to play the game. Using people’s flips against those who advocated/defended that player is a key part of this game. I’d consider voting you for this smudge. As for using flips against people… TexCat accused me of defending Stanislaus too much yesterday. It’s a fair claim, and a reasonable justification for a vote. I do find it interesting TexCat hasn’t renewed that vote, as she would be more “right” than ever; from her perspective, a [?]-aligned Astral defended Stanislaus pretty strongly. If it was scummy when we didn’t know Stan’s alignment, surely it should be twice as scummy now? For that reason, I’d like to **Vote TexCat** Add in all of the other reasons I’ve voted for TexCat on top of this. Playing from my phone, so I can’t link to them right now. It’s been a fairly quiet day. I’d be willing to lynch wombat99 or orthohedron if that’s our lynch, but I’d still really prefer TexCat. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1311 "2013-02-19T17:41:11Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > And don’t forget Skeezix. Not as strong a case, but still, I have to agree **Vote Red Skeezix** ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1312 "2013-02-19T17:42:34Z")
Also, Babale hasn’t voted at all on Days 2 and 3? What’s up with that? Unless my voting chart missed him (unlikely but possible), he’s lurking pretty hardcore. I second Johnny Bravo’s request for more info from him, and I’d consider murderizing him via lynch as well. Also, it’s Day 4. If our investigator has three more quality results (that is, results on people who are not dead), I’d consider claiming now. Further days increase the odds of death dramatically, given that there are two or three night kills per cycle. If one or more of your results are not useful (peeps be dead!), I’d consider staying silent. My reasoning: It’s more beneficial to town to have a new set of “cleared” people (barring Alpha investigation) than it is to stay silent and hope for “one more werewolf find.” As always, claiming is entirely up to you, and you should take my advice as just that: unrequested advice. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1313 "2013-02-19T21:02:02Z")
> [@orthohedron](#): > > Caprcious and arbitrary… Seinfeld much? Also, I’m not sure what you meant by this part. You were the one who initially used those words, not me! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1314 "2013-02-19T21:23:35Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Also, it’s Day 4. If our investigator has three more quality results (that is, results on people who are not dead), I’d consider claiming now. Two more. We’ve only had three nights. Otherwise I agree with you - if the investigator dies with knowledge of two townies, that’s a really serious blow for the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1315 "2013-02-19T21:31:58Z")
\*\*Vote Babale Vote Skeezix\*\* Are they not playing? I’m cool with lynching 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1316 "2013-02-19T21:37:01Z")
Votes go in blue. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1317 "2013-02-19T21:39:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Two more. We’ve only had three nights. > > Otherwise I agree with you - if the investigator dies with knowledge of two townies, that’s a really serious blow for the rest of us. Right. Two more. Who said anything about three? 😃 It’s more of a toss-up in my mind, then. I’d consider revealing if I had two results, absolutely stay hidden if I had one (or none). ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1318 "2013-02-19T22:04:27Z")
Sorry guys…the weekend ate me. I’ve managed to catch up in the other game, where I was almost a full day behind, but I’m still catching up here (where I’m only \*half \*a Day behind) ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1319 "2013-02-19T22:30:12Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > I think our remaining Mason should choose by him/herself, and not listen to this discussion at all. > > On the other hand, I had a little pet theory that meant that the lowest posting Player was killed each Night. I guess it’s wrong, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t urge them to post. I don’t know anything about you, **orthohedron** , so I hope you don’t mind if I > > **vote orthohedron** > > Any other “invisible” players? > [@DiggitCamara](#): > > **Vote wombat99** > > Same thing (almost). Has a few more votes than ortho; has been otherwise invisible. > > I’m starting to think we’ve stumbled on a non-participatory scum conclave, folks! > [@DiggitCamara](#): > > Not as strong a case, but still, I have to agree > > **Vote Red Skeezix** **DiggitCamara** , Do you have anything to offer us Today except for “lynch the lurker”? As the closest thing we have to a confirmed Town, your thoughts on players might be useful…so far all you’ve done today is provide the Scum a list of “probably not Masons”. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1320 "2013-02-19T22:42:44Z")
That sparked a thought. Diggit, can you post your role PM but exclude anything that would reveal the identity of your teammate? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=67)