# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1401 "2013-02-21T01:01:29Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I haven’t played over here for awhile, but in the olden days the mod would moderate the forbidden threads, and they’d be titled forbidden threads. Yeah, I don’t know when we stopped doing that. We just kind of did. And…the olden days? It wasn’t that long ago…was it? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1402 "2013-02-21T01:09:45Z")
Spooky. I just check my old messages for my last prior role PM, and it was from Skeezix for Glastnost Mafia and was sent out _exactly_ 2 years ago today. I don’t remember a darn thing about the game. I think I had to sub out for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1403 "2013-02-21T01:16:18Z")
OOG - uh, yeah, as long as I’ve been reading Mafia threads here there have _always_ been read-along threads. I don’t know where y’all have been playing, but here on the SDMB that’s basically how it’s done. Even I know that and I’m hardly a veteran. The title says Dead People Only and both Unspoiled/Spoiled in it, but if you want me to ask a mod to use the word “Forbidden” because that’s still not enough to indicate you live players shouldn’t peek in, I’ll do so. – ghost!choie, who still can’t do anything right in this frakkin’ game even as a corpse. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1404 "2013-02-21T01:20:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yeah, I don’t know when we stopped doing that. We just kind of did. And…the olden days? It wasn’t that long ago…was it? I’m scared of ghosts, so I’m addressing this to you. This is the first game played on SDMB that I’m aware of since De’endee. I’m certain the last 4-5 games on SDMB have had unspoiled discussion only here with a spoiled discussion available off site. ETA there have been instances where a player got spoiled information by accident when their name was mentioned in a discussion thread and they saw it when doing a username search, so it isn’t just keeping us out, it’s keeping the information out. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1405 "2013-02-21T01:23:19Z")
I ain’t afraid of no ghosts. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1406 "2013-02-21T01:30:22Z")
Hey now, I’m just waxing nostalgic. The only aspect worth perhaps holding over from long ago in a galaxy far far away might be the moderator participation. All can see safely is who started the thread, number of views (quite a few) and number of replies. So maybe Story is already in there. Spoiled details find their way into those threads by accident, and the mod is usually the best person to catch them and have them deleted. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1407 "2013-02-21T01:34:26Z")
Someone posted spoilers to the De’endee spoiled board a day before the game ended, and the moderator I contacted would not delete the offending post. So, the moral is, don’t post spoilers where players can accidentally read them. 😃 Other than that, I’m glad Choie opened a thread. I always enjoy reading outside perspectives after a game! ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1408 "2013-02-21T01:38:25Z")
I’ve asked the SDMB Games Room mods to change the thread to read Forbidden, no spoilers. Until then, do your best to imagine that’s what it says. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1409 "2013-02-21T01:43:23Z")
The power of choie compells you!1! ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1410 "2013-02-21T01:51:00Z")
[QUOTE=ghost!choie] ooooooooo [/QUOTE] Arg! Who said that!? ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1411 "2013-02-21T03:10:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > While I’m at it, I’m going to go ahead and: > > Vote Babale > Vote gnarlycharlie > > for the above reasons. I also think **Wombat99** and **Red Skeezix** also need to show up and start participating, but for now Babale and Charlie are my top two picks out of those four. i have made cases. perhaps you just find them too short. furthermore, i assume you think i’m bussing **Babale** since i’ve been voting for him. that said, **Vote Babale** by the way, why not vote for the four of your picks? it doesn’t cost anything. > [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > Okay so here’s my understanding… > > -The Wolves or someone (can’t even really trust who the message was from), wanted Guiri dead, and made a way for him to either be NKed or possibly lynched today if we believed the barn claim… > > - The last mason should probably stay hidden. IMO, I’d rather them stay hidden as long as possible, because we don’t need a firm target on anyones back right now. > > USC- Regarding the Barn posts. I think we should take it on a case by case basis. I had a gut feeling to trust the barn post for Stan. IDK if I would have believed it for Guiri. He was giving off a town feel for me. > [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > USCDiver… you are voting him for “protecting known scum” Wasn’t everyone jumping on my back (you included) FOR believing the barn post? **Stan** is only “known scum” now…So anyone protecting/not protection him, how are we to know whether they had the knowledge of whether they were “known” or not. > > To me that looks like a slip that you and Orthohedron both knew (because you both are on the same team) that Stan was a wolf/Scum, and that’s how you can point the finger at him that he was “protecting Known scum” > > So for that: > Vote: USCDiver > Vote: Orthohedron as what has been said, you didn’t express suspicion for Stanislaus prior to your vote. it really feels like jumping in to gain cred. **Vote Dizzymrslizzy** > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Dizzy’s a female!? > > I’ve always read it as “Dizzy Mr. Slizzy.” > > :smack: yup. it’s Dizzy Mrs. Lizzy > [@LightFoot](#): > > So— \*\* Astral and cookies \*\* are softing a red shirt PM and outing me for appearing to not having ( pardon the pun ) a cookie cutter one? > Also assuming that all red shirt PM’s are universal > > Nice work well, it means you could either be a Town power role or scum. it’s another point of info. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1412 "2013-02-21T03:10:59Z")
Hey, guys, didja hear? There’s this \*other \*thread where you can get all of the secrets from \*this \*game! Pass it on (but don’t tell the Scum, okay?)… Is there a case against \*\*orthohedron \*\*that boils down to something other than “he’s playing like a n00b?” 'Cause I’m not seeing it. Sure, he could be a Scum in over his head…but he could just as well be a ‘new player’ in over his head. I’d like some actual evidence before I put a vote down on him. I’m also not crazy about the case on **Babale** , given that is seems to be based mainly on the fact that he’s largely been absent. I did have a few reservations about the idea of lynching \*\*Mahaloth \*\*based on faulty recollection of his PM, as that comes close to ‘meta-gaming’, but it does seem to me to be a rather egregious mistake, and his near silence since his error was pointed out does seem to me more like “Scum trying to lay low” than “Town trying to make up for a boneheaded error”. I was considering voting for him already, for reasons similar to those cited by \*\*Astral \*\*in [Post 1360](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16027109&postcount=1360); events since that have only made my decision easier. On an ‘out-of-game’ note: I have to admit, I’m having a hell of a time keeping this game and the one over on Idle straightened out. I keep thinking there’s a case against someone in one game, when it’s actually in the other. That combined with work having been tremendously bust the last couple of weeks have me feeling like I’m really playing catch-up in both games. Luckily, my on-call stint ended yesterday, so the next several weeks ought to e a lot calmer, and I should be able to prticipate fully. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1413 "2013-02-21T03:17:53Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > TA there have been instances where a player got spoiled information by accident when their name was mentioned in a discussion thread and they saw it when doing a username search, so it isn’t just keeping us out, it’s keeping the information out. I moderated a game here where I mod-killed a player who posted based on info. in the spoiler thread. Harry Potter Mafia, I think? ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1414 "2013-02-21T03:28:25Z")
To all my naysayers: I already explained my feelings about Stan. I DID.NOT Vote initially vote Stan just because of the barn post. I did not verbalize it, here, but I was planning on coming back and posting my evidence when I had time to sit down. Here’s what I wrote the first time I explained it… > [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > I’m going back and doing a re-read and writing as I > > Yes, you are 100% correct, I haven’t verbalized my feelings on Stan…but that doesn’t mean that I don’t have other feelings, on him that lead to my vote. I have time now to find them so I don’t mis-speak. I’d much rather do that, then rely on memory and falsely accuse him of saying something that he didn’t. I’m sorry you take that as` suspicious, because it has no malace behind it at all. > > Aside from wanting to test the barn post..Here are other thoughts that I havent’ had the chance to verbalize because I didn’t have time to find them at the time: > > - I never really liked Stan’s vote on Babale D1, because Babale babbled onn about the barn and the stalker. It seemed like Babale was just confused and didn’t know what was going on. Simple misinformation. > > And you know what I just went back and re-read the first 15 pages and didn’t see what I thought I saw, and now I feel like a dumbass. I don’t know why I can’t find my other case on him. IF, what went down with the Role posting missing the “You are Town” didn’t happen, I would have debated taking off my vote at this point, because you were right, I WAS being hasty with my vote. > > I’d really like for Stan to come back with something to make me want to unvote him toDay, but if anything the way today has deteriorated, I just don’t see it happening. What are the odds that someone accidently deleted the “You are Town” part of their WinCon. Of course, I believe whoever said it has happened in the past, but I’d be willing to wager that Stan is AT BEST a Third Party, and most likely the Scum/Wolf that he is portrayed on the Barn as. Seriously I was pretty straightforward and one of the first on starting the Stan wagon, and was RIGHT, and you are still voting me? I’ve made an effort since then to be here, and be more vocal about my opinions and keeping better notes. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1415 "2013-02-21T03:34:51Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > Seriously I was pretty straightforward and one of the first on starting the Stan wagon, and was RIGHT, and you are still voting me? I’ve made an effort since then to be here, and be more vocal about my opinions and keeping better notes. Since you are here, would you be so kind as to respond to my [Post 1306](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16022814#post16022814) where I questioned your rationale for voting for me? In particular that I was one of the players who “jumped on your back” for your vote on Stan? I didn’t see anything particularly wrong with it at the time and in fact never commented on it. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1416 "2013-02-21T03:37:17Z")
And USC, I take it back you weren’t on my back for believing the barn posting… But my verbage would have been very clear that he was “protecting a now known Scum” not “Protecting known Scum” My vote on you is solely because of that statement. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1417 "2013-02-21T03:43:01Z")
LOL cross post, I was planning on addressing that USC. Seriously, I feel like I’ve gotten a lot of votes on my back for very opportunistic reasons. People voted me yesterday because I believed the barn post…I was right, and I’m still getting harassed about it a Day later. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1418 "2013-02-21T13:46:23Z")
Vote Count, Day Four ## 6 votes [ul][li] Orthohedron – Diggit (1271), USCDiver (1299), DIzzymrslizzy (1300), Red Skeezix (1329), Mahaloth (1356), Cookies (1378)[/ul][/li] 5 votes [ul][li]Babale - Johnny Bravo (1274), Mahaloth (1321), orthohedron (1322), Astral Rejection (1348), gnarlycharly (1411)[/ul][/li] 4 votes [ul][li] Suburban Plankton – TexCat (1325), Lightfoot (1349), Mahaloth (1364), USCDiver (1366)[/ul][/li] 3 votes [ul][li]USCDiver – Texcat (1276), DIzzymrslizzy (1300), orthohedron (1322)[/li][li]Dizzymrslizzy – Astral Rejection (1347), Cookies (1378), gnarlycharly (1411)[/ul][/li] 2 votes [ul][li] Red Skeezix – Mahaloth (1321), orthohedron (1322)[/li][li]Mahaloth - Red Skeezix (1329), Astral Rejection (1359)[/ul][/li] 1 vote [ul][li] Gnarlycharly – Johnny Bravo (1274)[/li][li]Wombat99 – Diggit (1308)[/li][li]Meeko – Mahaloth (1289)[/ul][/li] Day to end today at 2:00PM Eastern, or in just over five hours. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1419 "2013-02-21T14:21:09Z")
Maybe it’s just me, but the quietness of today indicates ortho is town. There’s been little substantial push for anyone else. I don’t feel as good about Babale, either. **Unvote Babale** In the five remaining hours, can we get a little more discussion of dizzy and Mahaloth? At least put your feelings on them in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1420 "2013-02-21T14:49:10Z")
I think the case against **dizzy** is pretty tenuous at best despite her pretty egregious vote for me (that she still hasn’t removed). Voting early in the Day based on an anonymous Barn message is a null tell to me. Some players were cautious, waited for Stan to respond and for there to be some discussion about the validity of the message itself. But if no one had voted \*\*Stan \*\*might have been able to avoid digging himself a hole with his fake role claim. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=72)