# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1721 "2013-03-03T15:28:34Z")

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What comments would you like…

Wombat- We can either believe her, OR believe the Barn post. There were only 2 kills last night, which means if the barn post is true then either Wombat was protected or she’s the SK. She’s admitted to shooting people. _shrug_ I don’t know which story I believe.

And um YAY to her shooting **Cookies** Regardless of whether she’s the SK/Vig, that is a +1 for Town. I’m glad I went with my gut and called Cookies out yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1722 "2013-03-03T15:30:18Z")

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Oh and Tex- I do agree with your assessment, I don’t think Wombat would have been at the top of my list last night to protect.

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**Author:** ![wombat99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b782af/32.png) [@wombat99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wombat99)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1723 "2013-03-03T16:23:33Z")

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> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#):
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> Oh and Tex- I do agree with your assessment, I don’t think Wombat would have been at the top of my list last night to protect.

Or the Wolf kill could have been blocked.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1724 "2013-03-03T17:26:36Z")

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It’s interesting that there were 2 kills on nights 1, 3, 5. And 3 kills on nights 2, 4. I’m not sure what, if anything, it means, but I notice the pattern. That’s 3 nights of a good blocker or a good doc.

Cookies said that Dizzy was blocked on one of those 2 kill nights. We are at least sure that Cookies said that. I might have thought that it was some winey scum way to clear Dizzy, except that Dizzy got awfully defensive about it.

The barn post we are not even sure came from Cookies. Wombat claims to have killed nights 2,3,4,5. Wombat, I don’t suppose you know if Pleo was responsible for Val Salva?

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**Author:** ![wombat99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b782af/32.png) [@wombat99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wombat99)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1725 "2013-03-03T18:08:33Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
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> It’s interesting that there were 2 kills on nights 1, 3, 5. And 3 kills on nights 2, 4. I’m not sure what, if anything, it means, but I notice the pattern. That’s 3 nights of a good blocker or a good doc.
> 
> Cookies said that Dizzy was blocked on one of those 2 kill nights. We are at least sure that Cookies said that. I might have thought that it was some winey scum way to clear Dizzy, except that Dizzy got awfully defensive about it.
> 
> The barn post we are not even sure came from Cookies. Wombat claims to have killed nights 2,3,4,5. Wombat, I don’t suppose you know if Pleo was responsible for Val Salva?

I don’t know if \*\*Pleo \*\*killed **Val**. I’ll ask the mods, but I doubt I’ll be told that.

Other possibilities - The Wolves and vig targeted the same player on Nights 1,3,5 (unlikely, except maybe for \*\*Choie \*\*N3); or maybe the SK only kills on even Nights (also seems unlikely).

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1726 "2013-03-03T18:26:50Z")

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Does anyone have a current players list – possibly with soft claims- handy?  
My notes are not accessable at this time-

\*\* Charlie and Meeko \*\* are standing out to me right now and I would love to hear more from them as well.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1727 "2013-03-03T18:37:19Z")

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Johnny Bravo  
Suburban Plankton (Demon Hunter)  
LightFoot  
Dizzymrslizzy  
fubbleskag  
Meeko  
TexCat  
wombat99 (Grave Robber)  
Babale (Witch [Confirmed])  
gnarlycharlie  
The order of the names is just total vote count.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1728 "2013-03-03T20:40:00Z")

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> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#):
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> I’m glad I went with my gut and called Cookies out yesterday.

:dubious:

You’re glad that you advocating lynching Cookies over USCDiver yesterday?

You know, even with the benefit of hindsight, the case against USCDiver was really solid. At the end of the day, there were only three people who had votes on Cookies but not dodger.

You, charlie, and Diver himself.

Charlie’s reasoning was pretty weak and I’m suspicious of him right now, but on the other hand, you were _actively fearmongering_ with your thing about “if we lynch USCDiver, SEVEN TOWNIES could die!”

Then we look at the fact that you tried to lynch USCDiver the day before. Why the change of heart? It’s almost as if you booked some new information abook USCDiver.

I’ll also point out that on Day 4, Astral Projection was building a case on you, and was the target of a kill on Night 4.

Finally:

> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#):
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> Suburban? What is a Demon? And what do they do in the game? Are they who is bringing people back to life?
> 
> **Is a Demon someone we should be lynching?**

Bolding mine. This is ridiculous, and at the time I pointed out that these questions smelled like a redirect.

I think I got a **Demon** in me sights.

**Vote Dizzymrslizzy**

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1729 "2013-03-03T20:53:13Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> had votes on Cookies but not dodger.

\*Diver. I don’t know who Dodger is.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1730 "2013-03-03T22:03:24Z")

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\*\* Dizzymrslizzy \*\*

- Pushing me to claim when I feel it’s not necessary
- Her response to \*\* cookies \*\* voting her reads like “ why are you bussing me?”
- Some comments smell of PIS  
[1549](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16044223&postcount=1549)  
[1600](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16048713&postcount=1600)  
[1661](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16052529&postcount=1661)

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1731 "2013-03-03T22:05:26Z")

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I was composing off site- I see that \*\* Johnny \*\* saw some of the same things

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1732 "2013-03-03T23:34:41Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> Does anyone have a current players list – possibly with soft claims- handy?  
> My notes are not accessable at this time-
> 
> \*\* Charlie and Meeko \*\* are standing out to me right now and I would love to hear more from them as well.

Burp.

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1733 "2013-03-04T03:29:08Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> :dubious:
> 
> You’re glad that you advocating lynching Cookies over USCDiver yesterday?

NO, that’s not what I was saying AT.ALL.

YesterDAY, when Cookies, was on my back, I turned around and was questioning her actions on D2, and that lead to her claiming that she was a Wolf. THAT was what I was proud of.

I specifically Thanked Suburban last Night saying that it was the right choice lynching USCDiver. The book was a major problem.

> [@](#):
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> Charlie’s reasoning was pretty weak and I’m suspicious of him right now, but on the other hand, you were _actively fearmongering_ with your thing about “if we lynch USCDiver, SEVEN TOWNIES could die!”
> 
> Then we look at the fact that you tried to lynch USCDiver the day before. Why the change of heart? It’s almost as if you booked some new information abook USCDiver.

NO, again, I was concerned about leaving Cookies be. I wasn’t trying to fear monger, but point out the possibility that if the Wolves had a power that could protect from a lynch (alla Pizza and crew in AIW), then we could be in major trouble if we mislynched USCDiver and then subsequently have a failed lynch on Cookies today…Before toDay we didn’t know who was making the 3rd kill. We didn’t know if it was two scum kills and a SK kill, or a scum kill, a SK kill and a backup vig kill.

> [@](#):
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> I’ll also point out that on Day 4, Astral Projection was building a case on you, and was the target of a kill on Night 4.

Yeah and Cookies was trying to set me up to be lynched yesterDay…So why wouldn’t the Wolves WIFOM and kill Astral to set me up further?

> [@](#):
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> Finally:
> 
> Bolding mine. This is ridiculous, and at the time I pointed out that these questions smelled like a redirect.
> 
> I think I got a **Demon** in me sights.
> 
> Vote Dizzymrslizzy

Why again, this was the first “I” had heard that there was a Demon role in this game…I had no clue what a Demon was, if there was more than one Demon, if they were some kind of bomb like player making a million zombie army against us. Until we got more information from USCDiver of what the Demon was looking for, I had no clue what that role could be? (aside from something that sounded bad).

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1734 "2013-03-04T03:54:43Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> OK, asking these questions after \*\*Suburban’s \*\* massive data dump feels like a redirect to me.
> 
> Do you think Suburban is still hiding information from us? It looks like he copied/pasted every piece of correspondence he’s had with Storyteller.

I missed responding to this post, and I’m sorry…

How is it a redirect? I was curious about who he was snuffing out. Demons, yeah, well Demons didn’t seem like it fit the storyline about a movie set, with wolves and townplayers, and talking zombies…And as I explained in my other post until USCDiver came forward with his information this seemed out of place, and I was baffled by who he was looking for.

I didn’t think he was hiding things from us, but rather was hoping he had some thoughts as to how we should proceed with the information we had, and should we be concerned about demons.

Again after the USCDiver reveal, all became clear, and where to proceed became clearer did as well.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1735 "2013-03-04T18:40:46Z")

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**vote Meeko**

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**Author:** ![wombat99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b782af/32.png) [@wombat99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wombat99)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1736 "2013-03-04T19:25:18Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> **vote Meeko**

Because he burped? Or because he isn’t playing?

\*\*Vote dizzyMrsLizzy

Vote GnarlyCharlie\*\*

They are my top suspects for SK.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1737 "2013-03-04T20:46:18Z")

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> [@wombat99](#):
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> Because he burped? Or because he isn’t playing?

Eh…to be frank, I put about as much thought and effort into my vote on him as he seems to be putting into playing the game.  
I think **Johnny Bravo’s** case on \*\*Dizzymrslizzy \*\*is worth looking at more closely, and I need to review what I was thinking about \*\*LightFoot \*\*before the weekend. And I’ll need to take a look at **wombat99’s** body of work and decide whether or not I like him for Vig or Serial Killer. My next vote(s) will come from that pool.

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1738 "2013-03-04T21:54:54Z")

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I think Johnny’s case on me, is quite like Cookie’s fake case on me. Taking advantage of random situations to promote fake cases…In fact, I think Johnny is the one we should be looking at.

Here’s just a sample of what has made my head turn over the last couple of days…

#149  
[Post #149](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16062987#post16062987)  
Doesn’t know how to play the game.

#1531  
[Post #1531](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16062987#post16062987)  
Now he knows all about how game mechanics work

#1532  
[Post # 1532](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16042143&postcount=1532)  
Is back to asking N00b questions

#1567  
[Post #1567](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16062987#post16062987)  
Not only seems to have a pretty good handle on standard roles, but is now making suggestions that Surburban is Bulletproof, a role I had to go and look up after he suggested it.

He seems to have picked up this game much quicker than I would have anticipated…And has answers to questions that can only be explained by having a talked it through with teammates.

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1739 "2013-03-04T21:57:32Z")

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NETA:

If you guys are going to get on my case for asking n00bish questions:  
RE: the implication of the Demon claims and such.

Then I’m going to be suspicious of others that seem to have PIS.

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**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1740 "2013-03-04T22:18:48Z")

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NETA again… Thought I did this but apparently my bad night is following me around here. Baby DML is sick and I might not be around after this depending on if this fever doesn’t break…

**vote johnny**

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