# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 89
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1761 "2013-03-05T14:47:25Z")
A backup? Yes, it looks like he might have. That backup was Wombat. Your claim says nothing about being a backup. Dizzy, you were the first one to vote for Stanislaus based on the barn post. What were you thinking when someone posted a result on the barn? ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1762 "2013-03-05T15:18:02Z")
I was actually suggesting that RS was my “backup”. Or complement would be a better word since his investigation results would have complemented my own. I already gave my opinion. I wanted to test the barn post because I didn’t know where it came from. There were a few possibilities I threw around. A second cop was one of them. Many o the games I’ve been in on Idle have had multiple cops that could search different things. I get alignment. That’s all I can tell you. My PM is right there for you. You weren’t on my radar at all Tex but this is really pinging me. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1763 "2013-03-05T15:19:45Z")
And also Red never confirmed he wrote the barn post. From my investigations I never would have been able to tell you whether Stan was an alpha wolf or not. The barn post wasn’t a typical cop report. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1764 "2013-03-05T15:25:06Z")
One last thing… Just some Wine for you to think about regarding my play in this game: - I went after Diggit for wanting to out the masons - I was the first to go after Stan because of the barn post and other suspicions - I was the first to go after Cookies for her inconsistencies. - I have and keep bringing up that we need to be careful because we are close to MYLO. If I’m scum I really suck as a teammate. Cookies wasn’t even on the radar that day before I brought her up. Everything I have done was to try and advance the town win. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1765 "2013-03-05T15:34:27Z")
**Gnarly** “Meeko not being Meeko” eh? And what pray tell, have I been for the past 20 hours or so? You’ve been a skimmer for the past 20, that’s for sure. Town, I think there is enough changed with the game to unvote me. Of course, scum need to cling to voting me now, though. So whatevs. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1766 "2013-03-05T15:36:28Z")
And to reinforce my “the game has changed, lets change with it” **UNVOTE SUBURBAN** ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1767 "2013-03-05T15:41:50Z")
**@Lightfoot, Meeko** Both of you have posts with players names in bold and blue, but with no “vote” in front of them. Are they supposed to be votes? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1768 "2013-03-05T15:43:38Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > Well damn, I guess I’m damned if I do damned if I don’t yet again in this game… > > I really wanted to wait until I had a good result to do this. > > My Results: > > N1 - Silver Jan - Town > N2- USCDiver- Town > N3- I was Blocked > N4- Cookies - Scum > N5- Suburban - Town > > I’ve had relatively bad luck in this game. USC started as Town, which is why I was reluctant to vote him, but the book thing really threw me for a loop. I tried building a case against Cookies, instead of outing myself then, because I was trying to find the SK. And Suburban, I wasn’t quite sure, maybe he was the Demon himself, so I scanned him to see if he was possibly 3rd party or Scum. A Scum claiming cop. What a totally unique gambit. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1769 "2013-03-05T15:47:01Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > **@Lightfoot, Meeko** > > Both of you have posts with players names in bold and blue, but with no “vote” in front of them. Are they supposed to be votes? Yes because iPad sucks. * * * **UNVOTE ALL** \*\* VOTE DIZZY VOTE GNARLY \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1770 "2013-03-05T15:50:07Z")
> [@dizzymrslizzy](#): > > one last thing… > > Just some wine for you to think about regarding my play in this game: > > - i went after diggit for wanting to out the masons > - i was the first to go after stan because of the barn post and other suspicions > - i was the first to go after cookies for her inconsistencies. > - i have and keep bringing up that we need to be careful because we are close to mylo. > > If i’m scum i really suck as a teammate. Cookies wasn’t even on the radar that day before i brought her up. Everything i have done was to try and advance the town win. how do you know we are at ““mylo”” exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1771 "2013-03-05T16:03:06Z")
I said a number of times that we are getting CLOSE to MYLO. There are 3 kills a night, or at the very least a pattern of 2 NKs on Odd nights, and 3 NKs on Even nights. There’s only 10 players left. Out of those 10 players: There’s maybe 2 maybe 3 scum left There’s a 3rd Party SK There’s possibly a 3rd Party Demon So lets take best case scenario. There’s 6 possible players left that are Town. Lynch me today - We’re at 5 Town 2 Scum 2 3rd party Tonight depending on how the SK shoots, we could be down to 2 Town, 2 scum, 2 3rd Party. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1772 "2013-03-05T16:05:20Z")
And FTR I don’t necessarily believe Wombat’s Vig claim, which is why I didn’t add it to my scenario above. If she was the SK wouldn’t claiming Vig be an easy way out of her pickle today? She can explain where she’s been, without much question? ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1773 "2013-03-05T16:41:48Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > the PM says that you become optional after you you kill at least one non-Town. didn’t you kill **Cookies**? so why the contradiction? > > **Vote wombat99** Gnarly, I think you mis-read the PM. The SK needs to be dead before Wombat is non-compulsory. > [@](#): > > Once the Serial Killer is dead by any means and you have yourself killed at least one non-Town player of any stripe, your Nightly kills go from compulsory to optional. FTR, Dizzy, I didn’t necessarily believe Wombat’s claim either, but it looks better in light of your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1774 "2013-03-05T17:03:46Z")
I read Wombats PM the same way that once she hits a non town player she isn’t bound ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1775 "2013-03-05T17:25:36Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Here’s a thought------\*\* SP \*\* can ‘sniff out’ a demon- but can’t kill one? > Scum can’t kill the demon-\* so we are told \* > Although it seem they need the demon dead > > \*\* Suburban Plankton \*\* would you care to address this concern? I’d be happy to address any concerns…what exactly are you concerned about? My power is to “may investigate any player (by Night) to determine whether they have had any truck with a Demon. This power is infallible.” I can’t detect a Demon directly, which makes me think that the Demon is not a particular player who can be detected/killed/etc; I think the Demon is a mechanic in the game. I don’t recall seeing anywhere that the Scum can’t kill the Demon; where are you getting this information? We have been told (via the Barn) that the Scum can’t kill the Serial Killer, but I don’t think there’s anything to suggest Serial Killer == Demon. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1776 "2013-03-05T17:55:31Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > I read Wombats PM the same way that once she hits a non town player she isn’t bound \*\*wombat’s \*\*PM is very clear if you actually read it. “Once the Serial Killer is dead by any means and you have yourself killed at least one non-Town player of any stripe, your Nightly kills go from compulsory to optional.” That says that \*\*wombat \*\*goes from a Compulsory Vig to an Optional Vig when \*\*two \*\*criteria are met: 1. The Serial Killer is dead 2. wombat killls a non-Town player. \*\*wombat \*\*claims to have killed **Cookies** , fulfilling criterion #2, but the Serial Killer is still alive, so criterion #1 has not been met, therefore he’s still a Compulsory Vig. Assuming he’s telling the truth, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1777 "2013-03-06T01:47:29Z")
I wonder why Dizzy didn’t investigate me. … Wait, didnt we get Pleonast for the same thing? Also, at the point we have a claimed compulsory vig, WTF are there votes on me? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1778 "2013-03-06T04:18:47Z")
it’s possible my previous vote won’t count \*\* Vote Dizzy \*\* oh and can someone parse " mylo" for me please? fwiw days off have been halved- ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1779 "2013-03-06T04:33:19Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > This would be the first I’m hearing this, in regards to me being a good read. I always figure I’m in the perpetual lower 10% play wise. > > I’m not sure I understand why you would forward that I ““KNOW”” anything. You know your answer here. > > I don’t feel town would make such a big deal on my activity, or lack thereof, as scum would. Scum need an easy, reasonless lynch today. > I simply feel that my name on their list has come up, and they are phoning it in. > Yes, I made it easy for them, blah blah blah. This just means look at them more than me. YOu said they know you are Town- they would only Know that if they were Scum? self doubt - when typed - is counter productive a tad ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1780 "2013-03-06T04:36:38Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > And FTR I don’t necessarily believe Wombat’s Vig claim, which is why I didn’t add it to my scenario above. If she was the SK wouldn’t claiming Vig be an easy way out of her pickle today? She can explain where she’s been, without much question? it’s risky - but odds are the real killer won’t reveal- so not a bad gamble at this point not convinced of course- but seeing the other side [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=88) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=90)