# Mafia - Game in progress \[Edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 9, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635 "2013-01-09T16:03:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1781 "2013-03-06T04:42:21Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I’d be happy to address any concerns…what exactly are you concerned about? > > My power is to “may investigate any player (by Night) to determine whether they have had any truck with a Demon. This power is infallible.” I can’t detect a Demon directly, which makes me think that the Demon is not a particular player who can be detected/killed/etc; I think the Demon is a mechanic in the game. > > I don’t recall seeing anywhere that the Scum can’t kill the Demon; where are you getting this information? We have been told (via the Barn) that the Scum can’t kill the Serial Killer, but I don’t think there’s anything to suggest Serial Killer == Demon. yes for some reason I paired the two bad brain but the parallel has been made by others as well it could also create false positives - if the demon can visit and leave a stench on an innocent- and yes I do think that prolonged exposure can corrupt an innocent as well – we have seen a bit of— so i’m square one-ing that train of thought for me for now ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1782 "2013-03-06T14:07:33Z")
MYLO- Mislynch you lose. AKA if you mislynch me toDay, and the scum/SK kills 3 town toNight, then Scum wins, assuming Scum has to be equal in number to Town. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1783 "2013-03-06T15:27:42Z")
Johnny Bravo’s unofficial vote count (now with strikethroughs!): I didn’t record Lightfoots re-vote or Meeko’s ‘unvote all’ and then revote because I mainly didn’t feel like dealing with it. The overall numbers should be accurate, though. **SIX VOTES** Dizzymrslizzy: Johnny Bravo (1728), Lightfoot (1731), Wombat99 (1736), Meeko (1749), GnarlyCharlie (1757), Texcat (1759) **TWO VOTES** GnarlyCharlie: Wombat99 (1736), Meeko (1765) Meeko: [del]Suburban Plankton (+1735, -1766),[/del] Dizzymrslizzy (1744), GnarlyCharlie (1757) \*\* ONE VOTE\*\* Johnny Bravo: Dizzymrslizzy (1740) Suburban Plankton: Meeko (1749) Wombat99: GnarlyCharlie (1757) ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1784 "2013-03-06T21:39:28Z")
FFS, no one is even playing in this game anymore. I love how no one has even discussed my claim. Why freaking bother anymore. This game is the most frustrating I have played yet. I have valid reasons for doing what I did, and it’s not good enough… ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1785 "2013-03-07T03:47:29Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **Gnarly** > > “Meeko not being Meeko” eh? > > And what pray tell, have I been for the past 20 hours or so? > > You’ve been a skimmer for the past 20, that’s for sure. > > Town, I think there is enough changed with the game to unvote me. > > Of course, scum need to cling to voting me now, though. > > So whatevs. i accept OMGUS as a tactic but that’s all you’re doing. you’re not even trying. either you’re busy in RL or you’re scum. > [@TexCat](#): > > Gnarly, I think you mis-read the PM. The SK needs to be dead before Wombat is non-compulsory. > FTR, Dizzy, I didn’t necessarily believe Wombat’s claim either, but it looks better in light of your claim. i see that now. **Unvote wombat99** it doesn’t mean i’m convinced **wombat** is a backup vig. > [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > FFS, no one is even playing in this game anymore. > > I love how no one has even discussed my claim. Why freaking bother anymore. This game is the most frustrating I have played yet. I have valid reasons for doing what I did, and it’s not good enough… that’s part of the game. i feel ignored that times too. gotta keep going. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1786 "2013-03-07T09:48:43Z")
I am in the hospital preparing for a C-section and will certainly not be able to end the day on time. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1787 "2013-03-07T10:32:31Z")
Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1788 "2013-03-07T11:10:03Z")
I have some rl obligations, but can cover the end of Day. It might be a little late as 7pm is my teatime, but we’ll manage. Storyteller, best wishes to you and you wife. Hope you enjoy being a Dad again. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1789 "2013-03-07T14:14:11Z")
**Good luck, storyteller!** ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1790 "2013-03-07T14:16:19Z")
**Pre-emptive Mazel-Tovs, storyteller!** ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1791 "2013-03-07T14:58:52Z")
**wooOOOOOooooo!** ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1792 "2013-03-07T15:18:19Z")
Good luck!! ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1793 "2013-03-07T15:30:32Z")
Good luck story! > [@Meeko](#): > > Also, at the point we have a claimed compulsory vig, WTF are there votes on me? Because you’re not really _playing_, and doesn’t sit well with a number of us. > [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > **Unvote wombat99** > > it doesn’t mean i’m convinced **wombat** is a backup vig. I don’t get this. \*\*wombat \*\*had claimed to be a Backup Compulsory (for now) Vigilante. Either that’s what she is, or he’s the Serial Killer. So if you believe she’s a Vig, your unvote makes perfect sense…but if you don’t, then you should be voting for her. I think \*\*Dissymrslizzy \*\*is correct about one thing, regardless of her alignment. With the current level of carnage we’re going to be at or near LyLo Tomorrow. the question is whether or not we can trust the Barn message from **Cookies** , known Scum. I think we need to eliminate a killer from the game Today, or we’re in big trouble. It would be great if that killer were not Town…but I’m not sure we can afford to be too particular. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1794 "2013-03-07T15:42:04Z")
Looking at the Night kills so far: N1 Val Salva Pleonast N2 Silver Jan Ender RyJae - claimed by wombat N3 Guiri - claimed by the Wolves, per the Barn message choie - claimed by wombat N4 Astral Mahaloth - claimed by wombat Red Skeezix N5 DiggitCamara - not claimed by the Wolves, per the Barn message (as it implies they targeted wombat) Cookies - claimed by wombat If \*\*wombat \*\*is a backup Vig, then: N1, Either the Scum, the SK, or the Vig did not kill (or someone doubled up on targets) N2, Scum, SK, and Vig all killed N3, SK did not kill N4, Scum, SK, and Vig all killed N5, SK killed Diggit, Vig killed Cookies, Scum did not kill If wombat is the SK, then: N1, Either the Scum, the SK, or the Vig did not kill (or someone doubled up on targets) N2, Scum and SK both killed…plus an extra unexplained death N3, Scum and SK both killed N4, Scum and SK both killed…plus an extra unexplained death N5, SK killed Cookies, Scum did not kill…plus an extra unexplained death So, if \*\*wombat \*\*is out backup Vig, then all the deaths can be explained by ‘known killers’, and we’ve had a few blocks, protections, or other failed kills. If \*\*wombat \*\*is the Serial Killer, then we seem to have three deaths that so far have no explanation. Our good friend Occam compels us to conclude that \*\*wombat \*\*is in fact a backup Vigilante, as he claims, unless someone has a good explanation for the ‘extra’ kills. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1795 "2013-03-07T17:07:34Z")
I think you are missing a bit there Suburban. N1 you got a message that you were hit but survived. So N1 is accounted for. N3 and 5 the SK got stopped because the SK in this case is Scum sided, and cannot kill scum despite trying two nights. N3 the SK was stopped hitting Cookies, and N5 was stopped from hitting Johnny. ---
**Author:** ![Dizzymrslizzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dizzymrslizzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzymrslizzy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1796 "2013-03-07T17:10:18Z")
This above is all just speculation of course. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1797 "2013-03-07T17:59:16Z")
> [@Dizzymrslizzy](#): > > I think you are missing a bit there Suburban. > > N1 you got a message that you were hit but survived. So N1 is accounted for. > > N3 and 5 the SK got stopped because the SK in this case is Scum sided, and cannot kill scum despite trying two nights. N3 the SK was stopped hitting Cookies, and N5 was stopped from hitting Johnny. :smack: I completely forgot about Night 1. That was no long ago…but Night 1 really wasn’t my concern anyway. So your theory is that the Scum can’t kill the SK, and the SK can’t kill Scum? I don’t know if I can buy it. It’s tough enough for a Serial Killer to win in a ‘normal’ game; your theory puts an additional restriction on the role that would make it near impossible. It seems just as likely that the ‘missing’ kills on Nights 3 and 5 were due to blocks and/or protections (or the Scum targeting the SK and failing). Have we had anyone claim a Doctor role, or \*any \*protective ability, so far? I must admit that I’m having a bit of trouble keeping things straight between this game and the one over on Idle… ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1798 "2013-03-07T19:24:26Z")
Ha! It just got easier for me. Let’s see if I can get all of this right…we haven’t had that many claims. Wombat has claimed backup vig. Lightfoot has claimed non-vanilla. Suburban has claimed demon hunter. RedSk is the dead cop. Pleo is the dead vig. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1799 "2013-03-07T19:30:01Z")
Evening fols. I’m a little later than I thought I would be getting this under way. Dusk has officially fallen, and no votes after 7:00pm GMT will count. (That is, all posts from Dawn up to and including Suburban Plankton’s last post are counted.) There will be a slight hiatus until I can verify the dead and write some colour, assuming I get an inspiration. In the meantime, please feel free to talk, but not vote. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635/1800 "2013-03-07T19:31:03Z")
Oh and I forgot Dizzy’s claim of cop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-in-progress-edited-title/646635.md?page=91)