# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2161 "2012-04-27T00:15:53Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > … so why didn’t he claim prior to dying? What good would it have done? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2162 "2012-04-27T00:39:16Z")
You presumably think harder about lynching a claimed investigator? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2163 "2012-04-27T00:43:47Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Do we really have 13 players who have not voted Today? > > By my count, the following people have been active Today but have no votes: > > BobArrgh > fubbleskag > gnarlycharlie > Silver Jan > storyteller0910 (voted and unvoted NAF1138 in the same post) > Tanaer > > These folks haven’t posted at all Today: > > Lilflower > Mahaloth > NAF1138 > PetW > realitytrip > Red Skeezix > > And Mosier gets a pass (for the moment) for being Brainless. By the way, I find this _incredibly_ disheartening. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2164 "2012-04-27T00:47:46Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > By the way, I find this _incredibly_ disheartening. So do I. And you say I’m not participating Choie! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2165 "2012-04-27T02:46:03Z")
It appears PizzaMod is swamped AGAIN can’t even taunt us. le sigh ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2166 "2012-04-27T02:48:48Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > You presumably think harder about lynching a claimed investigator? Too much inertia. And people would have said, “he’s neutral, it doesn’t matter anyway.” Too bad. ToeJam has been putting in a lot of pro-Town effort. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2167 "2012-04-27T03:22:55Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Too much inertia. And people would have said, “he’s neutral, it doesn’t matter anyway.” > > Too bad. ToeJam has been putting in a lot of pro-Town effort. By this argument, we should just end each Day after an hour. Too much inertia, it doesn’t matter. The votes are locked in. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2168 "2012-04-27T03:50:48Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > By this argument, we should just end each Day after an hour. Too much inertia, it doesn’t matter. The votes are locked in. I’m not saying I agree with that mentality! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2169 "2012-04-27T03:53:18Z")
Fair enough 😃 ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2170 "2012-04-27T04:23:13Z")
Stupid question alert! Considering he’s not dead _yet_, not officially anyway, couldn’t **ToeJam** or whomever he’s made his confidante(s) could let us in on whatever-it-is he learned as an investigator, if that’s indeed what he is? I mention this now because if his confidante(s) are less than truthful, **ToeJam** , being in a Schroedinger’s Box situation, could refute them. (Personally I’m glad to hear we have, or at least had, an investigator. Nice to see _some_ traditional Mafia roles here that I understand.) ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2171 "2012-04-27T04:49:37Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Stupid question alert! > > Considering he’s not dead _yet_, not officially anyway, couldn’t **ToeJam** or whomever he’s made his confidante(s) could let us in on whatever-it-is he learned as an investigator, if that’s indeed what he is? > > I mention this now because if his confidante(s) are less than truthful, **ToeJam** , being in a Schroedinger’s Box situation, could refute them. > > (Personally I’m glad to hear we have, or at least had, an investigator. Nice to see _some_ traditional Mafia roles here that I understand.) While that might technically be within the letter of the law, I think it pretty clearly breaks the spirit of the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2172 "2012-04-27T06:12:10Z")
Hell, I can’t believe I fell asleep and missed EOD grrrr. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2173 "2012-04-27T07:24:45Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > It appears PizzaMod is swamped AGAIN can’t even taunt us. > > le sigh Actually, for the record ([@everyone](https://boards.straightdope.com/groups/everyone)) I end the phases at a time that is decidedly inconvenient for me because I am usually working my full-time job. However, the phase ends at a time which is convenient for most people, which is 5PM on a weekday. If I ended the phases at a time which is convenient for me, maybe two or three players would be online to see end of phase. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2174 "2012-04-27T08:00:48Z")
Ok, working on verifying the tally now. Thanks for the extra sets of eyes, ladies and gentlemen. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2175 "2012-04-27T08:56:34Z")
Ok I have the tally taken down as well as folks’ actions. I just need to wait on clarification about something before I can proceed. Don’t wait up for the result to be posted. Hold sending in your night actions unless you wish to send them to my email address. My inbox is near full and I cannot delete anything right now. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2176 "2012-04-27T15:23:11Z")
Just for the record, I have the Pendant going to Astral. **Believerer (1)**: Believerer (1782) **Silver Jan (3)**: Silver Jan (1814), Normal Phase (2081), _**Normal Phase (2081)**_ **septimus (1)**: septimus (1820) **Visorslash (2)**: Visorslash (1855), _**Visorslash (1855)**_ **Astral Rejection (4)**: fubbleskag (1902), Tanaer (2008), choie (2010), Astral Rejection (2052) **Mosier (0)**: [del]ToeJam (1934-2076)[/del] **MHaye (1)**: MHaye (2037) **Gadarene (1)**: ToeJam (2076) Does that look correct to everyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2177 "2012-04-27T15:24:05Z")
\*\*Dear great and glorious Phere… Would it be possible, going forward, to at least let us know who died in the lynch? We tend to have a day or two where nobody wants to talk, because we don’t know if we’re dead or not. For instance, telling us ToeJam died, for sure, and his alignment is would let Suburban start dishing and us start speculating. Then you can take your time on the rest of the write up, and there isn’t this huge lull in the game. Just a thought!\*\* ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2178 "2012-04-27T15:42:00Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Just for the record, I have the Pendant going to Astral. > > **Believerer (1)**: Believerer (1782) > **Silver Jan (3)**: Silver Jan (1814), Normal Phase (2081), _**Normal Phase (2081)**_ > **septimus (1)**: septimus (1820) > **Visorslash (2)**: Visorslash (1855), _**Visorslash (1855)**_ > **Astral Rejection (4)**: fubbleskag (1902), Tanaer (2008), choie (2010), Astral Rejection (2052) > **Mosier (0)**: [del]ToeJam (1934-2076)[/del] > **MHaye (1)**: MHaye (2037) > **Gadarene (1)**: ToeJam (2076) > > Does that look correct to everyone else? Looks correct to me, once my tally is adjusted for double-voters. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2179 "2012-04-27T16:30:20Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Just for the record, I have the Pendant going to Astral. > > **Believerer (1)**: Believerer (1782) > **Silver Jan (3)**: Silver Jan (1814), Normal Phase (2081), _**Normal Phase (2081)**_ > **septimus (1)**: septimus (1820) > **Visorslash (2)**: Visorslash (1855), _**Visorslash (1855)**_ > **Astral Rejection (4)**: fubbleskag (1902), Tanaer (2008), choie (2010), Astral Rejection (2052) > **Mosier (0)**: [del]ToeJam (1934-2076)[/del] > **MHaye (1)**: MHaye (2037) > **Gadarene (1)**: ToeJam (2076) > > Does that look correct to everyone else? Yep, that’s basically what I posted yesterday, though I didn’t include the double-votes: > [@choie](#): > > Pendant > > Believerer - 1 - **Believerer** (1782) > Silver Jan 2 - **Silver Jan** (1814) **Normal Phase** (2081) > Septimus 1 - **septimus** (1820) > Visorslash 1 - **Visorslash** (1856) > Astral Rejection 4 - **fubbleskag** (1903) **Weedy** (2009) **choie** (2010) **Astral Rejection** (2052) > Zombie Mosier 0 - [del] **ToeJam** [/del] (1934, [del]2076[/del]) > Mhaye 1 - **MHaye** (2037) > Gadarene 1 - **ToeJam** ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2180 "2012-04-27T16:47:57Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > \*\*Dear great and glorious Phere… Would it be possible, going forward, to at least let us know who died in the lynch? We tend to have a day or two where nobody wants to talk, because we don’t know if we’re dead or not. For instance, telling us ToeJam died, for sure, and his alignment is would let Suburban start dishing and us start speculating. > > Then you can take your time on the rest of the write up, and there isn’t this huge lull in the game. > > Just a thought!\*\* +1 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=108) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=110)