# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 113
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2241 "2012-04-30T17:35:08Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > I think I know all of them. Would it help to say so/ be smart to say so? I think yes, but I freely admit I have only a tenuous grasp as to what’s going on here. I’ll quote the old adage “more information is better for Town”, and then point out that without knowing whether or not you and/or realitytrip are being completely honest, we have no idea whether or not we can trust any of the information you might give us. But I think it will help us start putting puzzle pieces together. And if we come across any pieces that don’t fit, that gives us a lead to work. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2242 "2012-04-30T19:41:58Z")
OK. These were his for sure – > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > If my notes are correct, these are the attacks on **Visorshash** : > > Day 1 - 0 HP (unspecified attack, protected by Inner Stickler, who took 75 HP damage) > > Night 1 - 100 HP (physical attack) > > Day 2 - 150 HP (physical attack) And probably this one as well. > [@](#): > > Night 2 - 100 HP (unspecified attack) ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2243 "2012-04-30T21:09:53Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Me. Dunno how much there is to discuss right now. Or rather, I feel like there’s probably a ton to discuss, but I haven’t gotten any real sense of the shape of this game, so it’s hard to get purchase. > > I think a Scum should just volunteer to out themselves to give us all information. 🙂 Oh\*\* Gad\*\*, you sound rather despondent, cheer up, it could be Night for weeks lol Seriously though, I don’t know whether the D&D aspects affect the game at all, except of course they do because when you get down to 0hp you are dead. Is Phere a scum kill? Who the hell knows? Can we kill Phere? Is Phere even important??? ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2244 "2012-04-30T21:09:59Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > To me, “self interested” seems more Chaotic than Neutral…but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Suddenly that rings a bell - oops. shows how long it’s been since I played d&d! > [@](#): > > \*\*ToeJam \*\*told me during day 1 that he was a Soldier. > > According to **story** , when he watched \*\*Visorslash \*\*he was an Assassin. He told me about **Visorslash/realitytrips** during Day 3 and referred to it as happening “last night”, which would mean Night 2. > > And he was a Rogue (Thief) when he died. > > So, if he was telling the truth he went Soldier (Day 1) -\> Assassin (Day 2) -\> Rogue (Thief) (Day 3). I am not aware of any day one role switch options at all except soldier\<-\>mage. Looking at my own Role PM, I can’t really see how that would stack up as an option, even if you started non-good. So, I’m guessing not truthful. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2245 "2012-04-30T21:13:42Z")
I went from Soldier to Archer on Day 1. I swear, it’s like nobody listens to me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2246 "2012-04-30T21:19:49Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I went from Soldier to Archer on Day 1. > > I swear, it’s like nobody listens to me. 😃 Too true. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2247 "2012-04-30T21:54:42Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Me. Dunno how much there is to discuss right now. Or rather, I feel like there’s probably a ton to discuss, but I haven’t gotten any real sense of the shape of this game, so it’s hard to get purchase. > > I think a Scum should just volunteer to out themselves to give us all information. 🙂 Top 3 villagers, and top 3 Scum leans? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2248 "2012-04-30T22:11:10Z")
[quote=“Normal\_Phase, post:2242, topic:617480”] OK. These were his for sure – > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Day 1 - 0 HP (unspecified attack, protected by Inner Stickler, who took 75 HP damage) > > Night 1 - 100 HP (physical attack) > > Day 2 - 150 HP (physical attack) And probably this one as well. > [@](#): > > Night 2 - 100 HP (unspecified attack) Well, the PM I got from ToeJam during Day 3 said “\*\*VisorSlash \*\*was visited last night by only 1 person according to said source: **Realitytrips**.” “last night” in this context ought to mean Night 2, so that takes care of your ‘probable’ attack. But that means he did 100 HP damage twice, 150 once, and 75 once. Why the disparity? The lesser damage taken by \*\*Inner \*\*could be a result of some ability of item of his that reduced damage, but why would what appears to be the same physical attack do varying amounts of damage? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2249 "2012-04-30T22:14:40Z")
Inner protected, so took half of the 150. As for the rest it was described as related to his role but that’s all I can say. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2250 "2012-04-30T22:15:57Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I went from Soldier to Archer on Day 1. > > I swear, it’s like nobody listens to me. 😃 Was ‘Assassin’ among your options for Class change on Day 1? Of course, you were ‘Good’, while ToeJam was ‘Neutral’, so that might have changed the options available…but then again, my PM listed options for me that required an Alignment change. \*\*LightFoot \*\*has mentioned the same, so it would seem that initial Alignment shouldn’t be an issue here. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2251 "2012-04-30T22:19:40Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Inner protected, so took half of the 150. As for the rest it was described as related to his role but that’s all I can say. So, a Day attack that does 100 HP, and a Night attack that does 150 HP, both doing ‘physical’ damage. And one hell of a grudge on **Visorslash** 🙂 Not necessarily asking you for confirmation, just thinking out loud. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2252 "2012-04-30T22:27:46Z")
Come on Pizzamod, it has to be EON, it’s Half past Midnight and I am going to change into a pumpkin or a butternut or a gem squash! Oh and BTW I haven’t tried to change to change my role, I have rather a nice role. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2253 "2012-04-30T22:48:52Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Was ‘Assassin’ among your options for Class change on Day 1? Case in point. I’ve revealed my entire list of options for each day already, and “assassin” was not on them. I’m like the redheaded stepchild of this game, apparently! 😃 If I had to speculate, assassin sounds like a natural progression from ninja. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2254 "2012-04-30T23:29:26Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Case in point. I’ve revealed my entire list of options for each day already, and “assassin” was not on them. I’m like the redheaded stepchild of this game, apparently! 😃 > > If I had to speculate, assassin sounds like a natural progression from ninja. I am actually quite damn happy with me role, it sees me right. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2255 "2012-05-01T05:44:57Z")
Does anyone have a list of players showing damage suffered to date? I’ll post such a list if no one else does, but am afraid mine is wrong. (I had Glee suffering on Bob’s behalf, rather than vice versa. :smack: ) > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I went from Soldier to Archer on Day 1. > > I swear, it’s like nobody listens to me. 😃 Did you start as Level 1 soldier, or Level 2, or what? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2256 "2012-05-01T06:02:36Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Did you start as Level 1 soldier, or Level 2, or what? [Oh, I don’t know…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14997006&postcount=1861) ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2257 "2012-05-01T07:15:41Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > [Oh, I don’t know…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14997006&postcount=1861) Thanks for reposting that. It’s not that people are ignoring you, just that there is so much info to keep track of. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2258 "2012-05-01T07:44:14Z")
Yes, I believe that’s end of night and I should have every order. Just got in from work, and boy, are my arms tired. Hey, that’s not even a joke, dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2259 "2012-05-01T09:33:31Z")
Sigh. Request a 24-hour extension for myself due to personal reasons. Yeah, I know. ☹ I’m sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2260 "2012-05-01T10:00:46Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Sigh. Request a 24-hour extension for myself due to personal reasons. > > Yeah, I know. ☹ I’m sorry. No problem Pizzamod, I have kids and grandkid arriving in a moment so I won’t be available anyway 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=112) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=114)