# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 127
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2521 "2012-05-05T17:49:15Z")
Oh fuck me, apparently while I was writing the virtual _Crime and Punishment_-length post, **gnarlycharlie** explained his role. Still, remarkably hostile to **LightFoot**. (And for some reason I kept thinking of “I saw Goody Proctor with the devil!” when **gnarly** revealed whom he’s seen.) But there seems to be some history there, of which I’m clueless, so I can’t judge either way. Anyway, I’m sorry in advance for asking for an explanation in the above post, **gnarlycharlie** , and thus making it look as if I wasn’t satisfied with your explanation. Truth is, I just took too damn long to compose that post, and I didn’t see your activity. There are people who can protect you, **gnarlycharlie**. I think this game requires us to be more open than usual, mainly because it’s so confusing to have game alignments vs. moral alignments vs. style alignments – and we’re not getting much info after lynchings. I feel like a bat flying around in an echo chamber and getting so confused I’m smashing into walls at every turn. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2522 "2012-05-05T17:55:08Z")
Oh dear. I’ve been labouring under the misapprehension that Today ended tomorrow (that is Sunday) not three hours from now. Best get cracking and see who gets my vote. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2523 "2012-05-05T17:55:31Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Ty though you are still wrong about me. To take just one thing you find scummy, why should a scum me clear petw after suspecting him, what does that do for me. It seems sometimes you dont even consider the reasons someone gives for being suspicious or not just have i dont get this so its scummy hard wired somewhere Yipe, this is a bit hard to parse. I can’t tell if it’s 'cause you’re using a phone with a particularly annoying keypad, or if you’re just on some serious pain meds! As far as why the 180 switch on **PetW**? Perhaps you saw you were gaining nothing from the attempts at stirring up a **PetW** wagon (yipe, I even forgot to mention that quick switch from **Astral** to **PetW** once you got that wagon rolling), and figured you’d look more Townie to exculpate him/her. Or maybe **PetW** is third party (or _you’re_ third-party) and you didn’t realize this until later, and you’ve now teamed up for nefarious purposes. But I really can’t believe I forgot to mention that **Astral** to **PetW** vote-switch, because IMHO. that was the scummiest act of the game to date. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2524 "2012-05-05T18:04:57Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > Oh dear. > > I’ve been labouring under the misapprehension that Today ended tomorrow (that is Sunday) not three hours from now. > > Best get cracking and see who gets my vote. Me too aswell. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2525 "2012-05-05T18:11:34Z")
My unofficial count, badly formatted and quite likely with errors, is MHaye (3): NormalPhase(2493), Astral Rejection(2508) Scathach (2): Guiri(2488), septimus (2511) SuburbanPlankton (2): [del]Mosier(2415-2509)[/del], Gadarene(2467-2504,2516), Tanaer(2510) Gnarlycharlie (2): SilverJan(2445), Lightfoot(2474) RealityTrip (2): Visorslash(2409) Visorslash (2): [del]choie(2402-2518)[/del], [del]Garadene(2434-2463,2504-2516)[/del], SilverJan(2438), Mosier (2509) SilverJan (2): [del]AstralRejection(2456-2508)[/del], SuburbanPlankton(2482), Gnarlycharlie(2515) Normal Phase (1) : [del]Tanaer(-)[/del], Choie(2518) Tanaer (1): [del]SilverJan(2394-2438)[/del], BobArrgh(2398) Mosier (0): [del]septimus(2454-2511)[/del] Lightfoot (0): [del]NormalPhase(2328-2346)[/del] Believerer (0): [del]Gadarene(2289-2434)[/del] **Normal Phase** , you’re in the Driver’s Seat. Switch to **Scathach**? Or, if you switch to SP (soon – it’s bedtime) I will too. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2526 "2012-05-05T18:30:42Z")
Day Four will end on Saturday, 17:00 (5:00PM) Eastern Time (GMT-05:00, US & Canada), May 5th 2012. Sorry about no Tags, I just copied and pasted ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2527 "2012-05-05T18:32:00Z")
@ \*\* gnarly charlie \*\* damn , it’s a game remember. I’m not going to screw with the quotes, but will answer your points. You, who are so big on off board communication, \* could \* have asked me what I was doing there? ( if you really saw me) OR if you’re a Detective and you saw me N2 why didn’t you spy at me N3? That would have been logical, non? That said since I already told everyone I was there and what my purpose was, your reveal is recycled. If anyone did visit the people that \*\* Charlie \*\* says he watched it would be helpful if they said so. ( or just voted him I suppose) I wager we do have a few watchers/trackers on both sides. It’s an option to change to . \* ie \* ninja or rogue can watch and since ninja’s are track-proof there must be trackers You were AFK and I made a judgement call to share the info that I had in an effort to return this game back to a game with some information.- we do have a lack of that you may have noticed. Hades, it’s not personal, how many games have I tried to kill Jan or a list of other players we have both played with?- clean slate and all- everyone here has been voted for by everyone here ( nearly) in one game or another. > [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > [spoiler] if i’m a detective you’ve put me in a pinch? as if it was just a slight inconvenience. it’s okay because i should or would have left a breadcrumb? your logic astounds me. > > no shit. if i were a detective or a doc, what then, Sherlock? > > thanks also, huh? that’s only because you’re suspicious of me. if you thought i were town, you’d be bemoaning outing a town power. if you think **Suburban** ’s “power hunting” is scummy, you should be bitching about this. > > you’ve played with me twice now prior this game and i was Town in both games. how is my play different that you find me scummy? seeing that you seem to be wrong with **Weedy** , i suggest you re-calibrate your scumdar. > > * * * > > now i’m forced to explain. if i refuse, i risk being lynched or NKd if scum think i’m a detective or doc. > > i did visit **Normal**. i’m also a watcher. i figured she would get visitors since she had a lot of attention that Day. i also saw **Lightfoot** there. since nothing happened to **Normal** , i assumed she was Town and kept my mouth shut. i also said i thought she was Town in a previous [post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15004958&postcount=2030). > > **Lightfoot** , i’m getting tired of you voting me nearly every single game. eventually you’ll be right but i doubt it will be for the right reasons. if the gods of mafia have any mercy, this will be the last time you will get any sort of investigative role. i hope this qualifies as hearing from me. [/spoiler] > > for the record: > N1: i investigated **Gadarene** but he did not have any visitors. > N2: i investigated **Normal Phase** and saw **Lightfoot** and only **Lightfoot** visit **Normal**. if **Lightfoot** is Town she can attest to that. that’s to head off accusations that my claim is a convenient one. > N3: no investigation. i was moving and had minimal net access. Spoilered the post to get to the part I wanted . underlining mine. I already posted in game that I was there and I saw you -your ‘ head off accusations’ comment is a bucket with holes in. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2528 "2012-05-05T18:36:38Z")
Off to bed for me! Lynch a scummy one, Town! (But does it matter anyway? Don’t our Lynchees come back to life as often as not? :smack: ) ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2529 "2012-05-05T18:50:38Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Off to bed for me! Lynch a scummy one, Town! > > (But does it matter anyway? Don’t our Lynchees come back to life as often as not? :smack: ) Surely only if they are Townie Lynches :D, Mosier is the troublesome one ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2530 "2012-05-05T19:38:00Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > My unofficial count, badly formatted and quite likely with errors, is > > MHaye (3): NormalPhase(2493), Astral Rejection(2508) > Scathach (2): Guiri(2488), septimus (2511) > SuburbanPlankton (2): [del]Mosier(2415-2509)[/del], Gadarene(2467-2504,2516), Tanaer(2510) > Gnarlycharlie (2): SilverJan(2445), Lightfoot(2474) > RealityTrip (2): Visorslash(2409) > Visorslash (2): [del]choie(2402-2518)[/del], [del]Garadene(2434-2463,2504-2516)[/del], SilverJan(2438), Mosier (2509) > SilverJan (2): [del]AstralRejection(2456-2508)[/del], SuburbanPlankton(2482), Gnarlycharlie(2515) > Normal Phase (1) : [del]Tanaer(-)[/del], Choie(2518) > Tanaer (1): [del]SilverJan(2394-2438)[/del], BobArrgh(2398) > Mosier (0): [del]septimus(2454-2511)[/del] > Lightfoot (0): [del]NormalPhase(2328-2346)[/del] > Believerer (0): [del]Gadarene(2289-2434)[/del] > > **Normal Phase** , you’re in the Driver’s Seat. Switch to **Scathach**? Or, if you switch to SP (soon – it’s bedtime) I will too. Oh for Pete’s sake. Even if I do change my vote right now it’s not enough to keep the triple-vote from changing the result. I would like to see MHaye lynched, having thought about it. If scathach or SP get two more votes such that me changing would put the result out of reach (and ahead of MHaye) then I will change as well IF I see it. But this just completely sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2531 "2012-05-05T19:50:53Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Oh for Pete’s sake. Even if I do change my vote right now it’s not enough to keep the triple-vote from changing the result. I would like to see MHaye lynched, having thought about it. If scathach or SP get two more votes such that me changing would put the result out of reach (and ahead of MHaye) then I will change as well IF I see it. But this just completely sucks. \*\*Unvote Gnarly Vote MHaye \*\* ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2532 "2012-05-05T20:10:01Z")
**Vote: Diamond ring to Guiri** ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2533 "2012-05-05T20:17:46Z")
What’s the case against \*\*MHaye \*\*again? And how is it that he had no votes until early this morning, and now is 2 votes in the lead? I’m happy enough with my vote on **Silver Jan** , and I probably won’t be back before EoD. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2534 "2012-05-05T20:31:40Z")
A lot of my strong town leans are voting MHaye. I’d prefer Suburban or Visorslash, but if they’re not going to go, I’ll happily help put MHaye out of reach of scum manipulation. **Unvote Suburban Plankton** **Vote MHaye** ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2535 "2012-05-05T20:32:22Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > What’s the case against \*\*MHaye \*\*again? > > And how is it that he had no votes until early this morning, and now is 2 votes in the lead? > I’m happy enough with my vote on **Silver Jan** , and I probably won’t be back before EoD. So you are happy with a vote on a Townie? Just remember that if you do manage to kill me and everyone finds out what I can do , you could be first on the chopping block. So be it! ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2536 "2012-05-05T20:55:48Z")
For some reason, I have the theme to the Italian Job floating around in my head right now. **Vote Silver Jan** Self preservation. Sorry Silver Jan, but in this game everyone can do stuff, even if they don’t have a regular power role. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2537 "2012-05-05T20:58:24Z")
\*\* unvote Diamond Ring Diamond Ring: Guiri \*\* Because I agree Guiri’s the place I’ll feel safest about the diamond being. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2538 "2012-05-05T21:07:54Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > For some reason, I have the theme to the Italian Job floating around in my head right now. > > **Vote Silver Jan** > > Self preservation. Sorry Silver Jan, but in this game everyone can do stuff, even if they don’t have a regular power role. Yeah, I don’t blame you, an OMGUS works time and time again. If I die, all that voted to lynch me will be suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2539 "2012-05-05T21:14:29Z")
**A vote count now would be nice** ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2540 "2012-05-05T21:14:30Z")
Silver Jan is obviously Town. Jesus Christ, people. Come the fuck on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=126) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=128)