# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/241 "2012-04-07T17:16:19Z")

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I need to get on with my second read, since there’s a risk I won’t be around at Dusk - I try and go out on Sunday evenings. Also there’s a looming shiny I want to follow from PAX East this evening.

Back a bit later.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/242 "2012-04-07T17:17:39Z")

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Since I am here for like 3 minutes and trying to not fall too far behind.

Choie…how long have you been playing mafia? (I ask because I don’t think I have played with you before). What do you know about voting third for a player?

ANYONE WHO ANSWERS FOR HER GETS MY VOTE AUTOMATICALLY FOR THE REST OF THE GAME UNLESS SCUM IS OUTED OR THAT PERSON US LYNCHED. LET HER ANSWER.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/243 "2012-04-07T17:20:28Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> oh, i left out a few words in the last sentence that changed what i meant. she didn’t vote **Visorslash** for the OMGUS. she kept her vote on him for it.

And so you unvoted her? I’m sorry, it’s not making sense to me how she’s suddenly innocent of something that was worth a vote earlier. If you think voting someone for OMGUS voting is worth a vote, is “not unvoting” someone for the same thing different? And you suspected there was scum among Visor’s voters but haven’t voted anyone else since unvoting?

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/244 "2012-04-07T17:28:19Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> The important thing is that you tried your hardest. 🙂
> 
> Jokes aside, there are two mechanics I’d like to discuss. I believe resurrection is a possibility in this game, given how explicitly our host has reminded us that dead people cannot post or vote. That being said, I think that indicates that reveals will be delayed in some way.
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> Anybody else get the same feeling?

Not quite. My read was that death doesn’t necessarily end participation in the game, although that being said, resurrection is a possibility (once someone gets to Clr 17 of course). Don’t forget the diamond.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/245 "2012-04-07T17:35:54Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Since I am here for like 3 minutes and trying to not fall too far behind.
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> Choie…how long have you been playing mafia? (I ask because I don’t think I have played with you before). What do you know about voting third for a player?
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> ANYONE WHO ANSWERS FOR HER GETS MY VOTE AUTOMATICALLY FOR THE REST OF THE GAME UNLESS SCUM IS OUTED OR THAT PERSON US LYNCHED. LET HER ANSWER.

Yowsa, scream a little! 🙂 This is my third game, and I still feel pretty wet behind the ears. (Especially with all the extra mechanics involved.) But yep, I have heard of that third vote = scum thing. But I don’t much abide by following unspoken rules like that – it seems insincere to me. So I voted how I felt, which was that **Gadarene** ’s fixation on **Astral** ’s joke post was… not odd, crap, what’s the word? Opportunistic, I guess. Does that make sense?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/246 "2012-04-07T17:49:30Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Yowsa, scream a little! 🙂 This is my third game, and I still feel pretty wet behind the ears. (Especially with all the extra mechanics involved.) But yep, I have heard of that third vote = scum thing. But I don’t much abide by following unspoken rules like that – it seems insincere to me. So I voted how I felt, which was that **Gadarene** ’s fixation on **Astral** ’s joke post was… not odd, crap, what’s the word? Opportunistic, I guess. Does that make sense?

Not a problem. Someone has to be the third vote, I am just trying to develop a bit of a player profile for you in my own head since you are one of the many folks I don’t know well. Also,sorry for yelling. I would hope it wasn’t necessary but experience has shown me otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/247 "2012-04-07T17:53:10Z")

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Anybody else notice we suddenly have 250 personal message slots available? When did that happen?

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/248 "2012-04-07T17:55:06Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Not a problem. Someone has to be the third vote, I am just trying to develop a bit of a player profile for you in my own head since you are one of the many folks I don’t know well. Also,sorry for yelling. I would hope it wasn’t necessary but experience has shown me otherwise.

No prob, I understand. Hopefully we’re both just trying to keep the baddies at bay.

(I bet if anyone had answered instead of me, it would’ve been **Inner Stickler**. He’s always helpful yet ironically gets lynched because of it!)

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/249 "2012-04-07T17:57:46Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Anybody else notice we suddenly have 250 personal message slots available? When did that happen?

It was the result of [this ATMB thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=643964) not too long ago.

And we members get 500, so nyeah.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/250 "2012-04-07T18:07:16Z")

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How do I go about being an member. 😛

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/251 "2012-04-07T18:08:58Z")

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Alas, I am busy during this weekend, but I shall provide you with my own Vote Tally Notes again!  
Like last time- unvotes here will be italicized and smaller. There may be some errors, if so just let me know and I’ll update mine list for next time.

Day 1:   
(2) 4. **Mosier** : Normal Phase (#63,65) Lightfoot (237)   
(0) 7. \*\*Weedy: \*\*\*Visorslash OMGUS (102) \*  
(5) 8. **Gadarene** : Naf(90,91) Ro0sh (120) Choie (152) InnerStickler (197) Visorslash (236)   
(2) 10. **Astral Rejection** : Guiri (#57) Gadarene (83)   
(0) 12. **NAF1138** : \*Glee(114)-Lv up Vote/Unvote (157) \*  
(1) 13. **septimus** _Choie (#68)_ Weedy (184)   
(1) 17. **Silver Jan** GnarlyCharlie (176)   
(0) 18. \*\*choie \*\*\*AstralRejection (#78) \*  
(0) 22. **Normal Phase** \*Visorslash (70) \*  
(1) 23. \*\*MHaye \*\*AstralRejection (#186)   
(5) 27. \*\*Visorslash \*\*_Weedy (94)_ Silver Jan (95) Mosier (117) Mahaloth (124) septimus (132) PetW (188)

And of note, does anyone know how to format strike throughs? That would make my charts easier to read.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/252 "2012-04-07T18:10:32Z")

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> [@ToeJam](#):
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> And of note, does anyone know how to format strike throughs? That would make my charts easier to read.

[del]Like so.[/del]

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/253 "2012-04-07T18:24:02Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> (I bet if anyone had answered instead of me, it would’ve been **Inner Stickler**. He’s always helpful yet ironically gets lynched because of it!)

I actually went for a walk just to get away from the temptation. I would hate to incur Naf’s wrath.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/254 "2012-04-07T18:28:52Z")

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[noparse][del]test[/del][/noparse]  
[noparse][del]test[/del][/noparse]

Interesting. Sorry for messing up the game thread with tests. I was curious if choie’s neon green was a glitch or a quirk. Looks like a quirk. If you were curious, leaving the final n off of green yields that super bright [del]green[/del] gree.

PS. If you want to demonstrate coding you can use the [noparse][/noparse] tags to tell the board not to do whatever coding you have between them.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/255 "2012-04-07T18:30:13Z")

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NETA: you can use the [noparse][noparse][/noparse][/noparse] tags to tell etc.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/256 "2012-04-07T18:31:42Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> [del]Like so.[/del]

Heh, how does that help him? You’re not telling him the code he needs to use.

(del) text you want to cross out (/del)

Except with square brackets instead of parentheses. Which gives you:

[del] text you want to cross out [/del]

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/257 "2012-04-07T18:33:06Z")

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And speaking of helpful, **Inner Stickler** beats me to the punch! _And_ explains my freakish shade of gree.

Better watch it, dude. The noose’ll be 'round your neck again for sure at this rate.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/258 "2012-04-07T18:34:47Z")

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Well, the simplest method is always to click on quote when you see a post with interesting formatting and then you can see how they did it. I suspect ATPG was simply making it easier for Toejam rather than having him scroll backwards through the thread looking for struckthrough text.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/259 "2012-04-07T18:35:23Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> … although that being said, resurrection is a possibility (once someone gets to Clr 17 of course). Don’t forget the diamond.

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/260 "2012-04-07T18:37:39Z")

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Clerics who have leveled up to 17 in DnD have the option of casting Resurrection. It costs a diamond but revives a willing dead person even if their remains are, to use a technical term, all fucked up. Raise Dead is cheaper and can be done at lower levels but the corpse has to be in good condition.

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