# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2741 "2012-05-09T18:10:48Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > That matches what I have as well. > > Regarding the **Wrath of Demon** : > _\_ > > By my count, the last time we heard from some people was: > > **lilflower** , Day 1 > **Mahaloth** , Day 2 > **PetW** , Day 2 > **NAF1138** , Night 2 > **realitytrip** , Night 2 > **Red Skeezix** , Night 2 > > So it seems to me that it’s been 3 1/2 days since the single post by lilflower, so she ought to have expired already. Unless, that is, she has “checked in with the Moderator” but not posted in the game thread. > > I certainly hope that isn’t the case, because that’s not cool. Honestly that’s why I just want the lot of them dead-by-mod. Even though most are probably town (though I HAVE played in games and even run one, where the no-shows were majority scum, and in one sense that would be just as bad for the game). It’s just impossible to play against vapor. If we had real vigs that would be one thing, but it doesn’t seem that we do. And Believerer’s gone missing again, too. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2742 "2012-05-09T18:16:16Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Honestly that’s why I just want the lot of them dead-by-mod. +1 ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2743 "2012-05-09T20:45:28Z")
Part of me has this fear that after they are mod-killed, they are going to come back as zombies, and THEN get involved in the game … but we won’t know if they are playing or not. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2744 "2012-05-09T20:47:26Z")
> [@BobArrgh](#): > > Part of me has this fear that after they are mod-killed, they are going to come back as zombies, and THEN get involved in the game … but we won’t know if they are playing or not. Now I want to wash your mouth out with soap! ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2745 "2012-05-09T23:46:54Z")
I wish it was day. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2746 "2012-05-10T00:07:24Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > When \*\*Astral \*\*was returned from death, he claims he was returned with only half his HP. > > Would either \*\*Guiri \*\*or \*\*Mosier \*\*like to either confirm or deny that the same happened to them? I came back with full HP, but posting restrictions and Day action restrictions. I hadn’t suffered any HP damage when I died, though, so maybe Astral’s HP loss from before he died carried over through resurrection? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2747 "2012-05-10T00:36:48Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I came back with full HP, but posting restrictions and Day action restrictions. I hadn’t suffered any HP damage when I died, though, so maybe Astral’s HP loss from before he died carried over through resurrection? I didn’t have any HP losses prior to my lynch. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2748 "2012-05-10T00:44:13Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I wish it was day. I must admit I’ve lost track. I know the beginning of Day will be fluid. But when is EONight? I’m in 3 games just now and my mafia time clock is askew ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2749 "2012-05-10T00:47:46Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Thanks; I’ve corrected my records. > > Another mistake shown is Lord Phere’s total: He’s taken, I think, only 715 points damage, not 735. (I overlooked a post-summary correction.) Would you mind editing your spoiler. I’m not sure why , but reading that I protected Visorslash bothers me ( and it’s not true) ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2750 "2012-05-10T01:20:45Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I must admit I’ve lost track. I know the beginning of Day will be fluid. But when is EONight? > > I’m in 3 games just now and my mafia time clock is askew Tomorrow at 5. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2751 "2012-05-10T03:53:29Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Quick question: why did you offer up your lawful/neutral/chaotic alignment to Gadarene (whether you were being truthful or not or whatever), but not mention your good/neutral/evil alignment? Or did you, and I missed it. I find it curious that you left that out, though not, I should say, because it makes me think you’re Scum… because if you were, you’d have just lied about that too. It makes me think that you are not Scum in game alignment, but are Evil in “moral alignment.” > > Am I right? i’m neutral, neutral. it can change with actions i take. attacking or guarding for example are ways if you do them often enough. speaking of attacking, i was the one who made the warning shot on Red Skeezix for non-participation. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2752 "2012-05-10T07:02:31Z")
\*\*Night Phase will be extended approximately 10 hours, because I will be doing a closing manager shift at End of Night. Therefore, that’s more time to send in orders for you. I will be able to work on the results and advance the round when I get back home, so there shouldn’t be any excessive delays tonight.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2753 "2012-05-10T09:29:47Z")
Also, please note that as the game goes on, there will be fewer players active and less role switching. As such, the game will become substantially easier for me to moderate. Both the quality and speed of my hosting should improve markedly. My apologies for the numerous delays and a couple mix-ups; without question this is the most involved mafia game I’ve ever hosted, and experimental for sure. There were bound to be kinks. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2754 "2012-05-10T12:13:51Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > i’m neutral, neutral. it can change with actions i take. attacking or guarding for example are ways if you do them often enough. > > speaking of attacking, i was the one who made the warning shot on Red Skeezix for non-participation. So you’re not Town? Why did you contact me to ask me to send you my information, if you weren’t planning on being remotely forthcoming yourself in return? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2755 "2012-05-10T14:34:20Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > So you’re not Town? > > Why did you contact me to ask me to send you my information, if you weren’t planning on being remotely forthcoming yourself in return? Did you forget what game you’re playing? This is Mafia, not Kindergarten. “Playing nice” and “sharing” are not exactly the pillars upon which our community is built. I would assume that **gnarlycharlie** was trying to gain or keep whatever advantage over you he could, which is the smart play. Why you seem so hurt that he wouldn’t “play nice” is a source of much confusion, and a little amusement, to me. Also, he didn’t say he was not Town, only that his Alignment is Neutral/Neutral. What makes you think the two are incompatible? ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2756 "2012-05-10T14:37:14Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Did you forget what game you’re playing? This is Mafia, not Kindergarten. “Playing nice” and “sharing” are not exactly the pillars upon which our community is built. > > I would assume that **gnarlycharlie** was trying to gain or keep whatever advantage over you he could, which is the smart play. Why you seem so hurt that he wouldn’t “play nice” is a source of much confusion, and a little amusement, to me. This is Mafia, not Mazalan. Individual players seeking “advantage” over other individual players is not reflective of a Town attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2757 "2012-05-10T14:42:55Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > This is Mafia, not Mazalan. Individual players seeking “advantage” over other individual players is not reflective of a Town attitude. Yup. And I’m trying to figure out if his story makes sense for a Townie to do, Suburban; I’m not excoriating him for not being “nice” to me. So quit it with the patronizing attitude, okay? I have reason to believe that Neutral/Neutral is not a Townie alignment because of the message I got from Pizza saying that changing your moral alignment (in the case of that message, from Good to Neutral) changes your goals in this game, as I’ve already discussed. That’s why I think the two are (or at least could be) incompatible. All right? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2758 "2012-05-10T14:44:37Z")
By the way: quit fucking attributing motivations to me. It’s really, really fucking condescending and annoying. I am not, and never have been, “hurt” that gnarlycharlie lied to me. I do, however, think it’s notable, and I do, however, think it’s scummy. So it’s a valid avenue for me to try and explore without you belittling me by suggesting that I’m just being sensitive. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2759 "2012-05-10T15:26:49Z")
Did you guys know that Gadarene has six toes on his left foot, _but he wasn’t born that way?_ /thunderclap ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/2760 "2012-05-10T15:49:35Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Did you guys know that Gadarene has six toes on his left foot, _but he wasn’t born that way?_ > > /thunderclap Crap, wine on keyboard! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=139)