# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3021 "2012-05-15T18:19:55Z")

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I think gnarly is on the level only because his night attack reveal was explicitly not from Phere. I’m otherwise plenty suspicious of him.

Mosier, however, said he had a posting restriction he isn’t following, and is directly related to Phere. I think he’s the more immediate threat to town.

Either flip will give us some circumstantial info about the either. I’d prefer offing Mosier first, but gnarly is acceptable and I’ll switch to that if need be.

I’ve submitted my attack to Pizza; it’s Believerer for now, as I suggested up-thread. Let me know if somebody has a better target.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3022 "2012-05-15T18:34:25Z")

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I thought of a possible reason for Mosier’s posting restriction to disappear, but I’m not going to say it for him. Otherwise I continue to be more suspicious of his existence than his intentions (if that makes any sense), but want to see his flip enough that I think I’m OK with his lynch. The problem is gnarly. I would kind of like gnarly’s vig kill for tonight to be voted on, if he survives. Would that be workable? I haven’t seen any evidence of redirectors yet and that’s the only actual danger in such a scenario, IMO.

Why do you think that scum players could not earn individual attacking powers just the same as townies can? That’s bad reasoning IMO.

**unvote Tanaer, vote gnarly**

I don’t agree with you or anyone attacking Believer unless he’s already hurt, which I don’t think he is, or unless you can get a sizable group going. Finish off gnarly or finish off Visorslash, IMO. Neither is looking especially townie to me at the moment. I might even join you – waiting on a response from Pizza if it comes in time.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3023 "2012-05-15T18:36:41Z")

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Oh, I left out a line – the vote is there for emphasis. Whether it remains depends on the rest of you.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3024 "2012-05-15T18:41:40Z")

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I’m announcing my target in the hopes that I CAN get a big group together. I can change it any time 😃

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3025 "2012-05-15T18:46:30Z")

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Also, I have more town leans on the people voting for Mosier than I do the people voting for gnarlycharlie.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3026 "2012-05-15T19:01:44Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Also, can we come to a consensus on who to attack toDay?
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> I vote Mosier IF gnary is lynched. I vote Believerer if Mosier is lynched.

I am confused by this, please enlighten me, If gnarly is lynched we will only know at EOD or are you referring to toMorrow? or do you mean a Night attack? we can’t attack Mosier or Believerer unless we know who has been lynched. yep, I am really confused by this post.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3027 "2012-05-15T19:02:41Z")

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He’s assuming concensus despite that it doesn’t yet exist.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3028 "2012-05-15T19:06:03Z")

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Of course I’m assuming consensus. I also said I’d attack Phere if no consensus was reached.

I’ve got a target for all eventualities! Sheesh! 😃

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3029 "2012-05-15T19:21:23Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Of course I’m assuming consensus. I also said I’d attack Phere if no consensus was reached.
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> I’ve got a target for all eventualities! Sheesh! 😃

So let me get this right, you are assuming a lynch LEADER and not a lynch at EOD? Sorry if I sound like a dumb grey haired old lady (I was going to say dumb blonde but that’s not true)

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3030 "2012-05-15T19:25:03Z")

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Yes ma’am. I can guess at where the extra votes are going, and hope I got it right when I submit my final attack order.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3031 "2012-05-15T19:37:32Z")

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question @ items  
\*\* To we have to tell you that we are using an item, or are they just there?

IE does one have to tell you they want to " wear the tiara" or " use the sharp pointy stick" ?\*\*

I ask in case an item with say, protective qualities is just left on the nightstand it might not work?

- I don’t have a tiara or a sharp pointy stick and I still don’t know what my items do. this is for information porpoises \*

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3032 "2012-05-15T19:41:28Z")

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Is the vote count Mosier - 5, Gnarly - 5, Visor - 3, with the rest on 1 vote apiece?

I thought there was more support for a Scathach lynch but apparently not toDay.

I’m happy to move my vote to any of the top three, more or less in the order they stand, and for the other(s) to be attacked.

**Unvote, Vote Gnarly**

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3033 "2012-05-15T19:41:54Z")

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I can’t spell consensus.

**unvote, vote Mosier**

It’s too close to end of day. 😕

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3034 "2012-05-15T19:43:42Z")

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Lovely simul-post there. Should I go back then?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3035 "2012-05-15T19:53:49Z")

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Guiri, if you’re still here you should really switch to Mosier. Unless someone else wants to weigh in. It’s 7-4.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3036 "2012-05-15T19:55:52Z")

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Jeez. Maybe consensus will be too tough.

Aight. I’m attacking Phere. Gotta look busy at work for a bit. Let’s try this coordination thing again tomorrow. 😃

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3037 "2012-05-15T19:57:24Z")

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This is really annoying.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3038 "2012-05-15T19:57:35Z")

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Sure

**Unvote, Vote Mosier**

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3039 "2012-05-15T20:01:36Z")

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Isn’t there an hour left?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3040 "2012-05-15T20:02:49Z")

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Yeah, but I’m the one sitting here with two votes and I have about a million RL things to do that I need to be doing instead of this.

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