# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 153
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3041 "2012-05-15T20:50:14Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Yeah, but I’m the one sitting here with two votes and I have about a million RL things to do that I need to be doing instead of this. Ok, to just do the consensus thing, please note I am unhappy **Unvote gnarlycharlie** **Vote Mosier** I really hope You lot have got it right ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3042 "2012-05-15T21:00:55Z")
If we’re wrong (and wow, this is the very first wagon I’ve ever started!) all we lose is a zombie, and I’d imagine **gnarlycharlie** will be toast during the Night from at least some of the people who think he’s guilty. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3043 "2012-05-15T21:04:56Z")
> [@choie](#): > > See, now, this is why it’s bad that **Askthepizzaguy** isn’t giving us EOD vote counts performed by _him_. We would have noticed **[Mosier**’s double vote – assuming he had it yesterDay – with an official vote count. > > **Normal** , would you be willing to post that question in public, so **askthepizzaguy** will answer in public? Not a slight against you, but as I said, I don’t trust (nor do I think anyone else should) any words claimed to come from **pizzamod** that we haven’t read ourselves directly from his own posts. > > How is the item vote going, btw? I think **glee** , IIRC, seems assured to get the teal harp. But if **Tanaer** wants to be a bard, I prefer the harp in her hands. What can I say, I’m a music lover and would rather hear someone talented than some knight with no apparent musical abilities. Also, Tanaer’s the only one who’s put the hurt on **Phere** so she deserves a reward. > > Ergo, [b **teal harp to Tanaer** > > And I look good with white, so I’ll: > > **white sceptre to choie** > > … though I don’t think anyone else has voted that for me, so it’s probably a lost cause. > > Among the current vote list I see no **Believerer** , **fubbleskag** or **Red Skeezix** (quel surprise). The fact that **Red** hasn’t been NKed makes me suspect he _is_ active somewhere, as in a scum board. I guess we’ll find out toNight. Thanks Choie. It took me too long to fully register this then find this again, but in case we get an OED extension again, **unvote white sceptre; white sceptre choke** ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3044 "2012-05-15T21:11:12Z")
Thanks, **Tanaer**. Unfortunately even with your vote, I think the white sceptre’s almost certain to go to **Guiri** , who these days is getting all the phat goodies. At least he’s trustworthy, but it would be nice to get some of the other likely town folks some cool swag. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3045 "2012-05-15T21:15:26Z")
Is day over now? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3046 "2012-05-15T21:56:32Z")
> [@choie](#): > > If we’re wrong (and wow, this is the very first wagon I’ve ever started!) all we lose is a zombie, and I’d imagine **gnarlycharlie** will be toast during the Night from at least some of the people who think he’s guilty. Gnarly will probably sup from Mosiers brains and relish his death cries 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3047 "2012-05-15T22:59:27Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Is day over now? Tis 1 am my time, yay for laptops ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3048 "2012-05-16T04:16:01Z")
Any ETA on Day end reveal, Lord Pizza? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3049 "2012-05-16T04:18:21Z")
Also, with this post, I’m now the second most prolific poster in this thread. Good luck WoWing me, suckahs! ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3050 "2012-05-16T09:52:53Z")
If you kind folks would be kind enough to kindly assemble for me a tally, I’ll be able to make an attempt at advancing the round after a nap. “nap” read: Only a couple hours of sleep between shifts. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3051 "2012-05-16T10:48:34Z")
Tallying… Guiri (scathach Gnarly (Inner Stickler, Lightfoot, Mosier (choie, Astral, Visor, Visor, [Tanaer], Normal, Normal, Guiri, Silver Jan Visorslash (Mosier, Mosier, Septimus), Sub Plank (storyteller) Blue Bow (Normal, Normal, Normal, Visor, Visor, Normal, Normal, Lightfoot Red Bow (Astral, Visor, Visor, Astral, Astral, Tanaer White Scepter (Visor, Visor, Guiri, Guiri, Guiri, choie, Choie White Staff (SilverJan, Visor, Visor, SilverJan Teal Harp (choie, Visor, Visor, {glee}, Tanaer, Glee, Glee, Glee, Tanaer [No unvote AFAIK] {No bold} ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3052 "2012-05-16T10:52:34Z")
> [@Visorslash](#): > > Tallying… > > 1 Guiri (scathach) > 2 Gnarly (Inner Stickler, Lightfoot) > 9 Mosier (choie, Astral, Visor, Visor, [Tanaer], Normal, Normal, Guiri, Silver Jan > 3 Visorslash (Mosier, Mosier, Septimus), > 1 Sub Plank (storyteller) > > Blue Bow: 5 Normal > 2 Visor > 1 Lightfoot > > Red Bow: > 3 Astral > 2 Visor > 1 Tanaer > > White Scepter: > 3 Guiri > 2 Visor > 2 Choie > > White Staff: > 2 Silver Jan > 2 Visorslash > > Teal Harp: > 3/4 Glee > 2 Tanaer > 2 Visorslash > 1 Choie > [No unvote AFAIK] > {No bold} Edited. Known double votes included. Going to do another without known double votes as well Edit: 1 Guiri (scathach) 2 Gnarly (Inner Stickler, Lightfoot) 7 Mosier (choie, Astral, Visor, [Tanaer], Normal, Guiri, Silver Jan) 2 Visorslash (Mosier, Septimus), 1 Sub Plank (storyteller) Blue Bow: 4 Normal 1 Visor 1 Lightfoot Red Bow: 3 Astral 1 Visor 1 Tanaer White Scepter: 3 Guiri 1 Visor 2 Choie White Staff: 2 Silver Jan 1 Visorslash Teal Harp: 3/4 Glee 2 Tanaer 1 Visorslash 1 Choie Well, that’s my attempt anyway. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3053 "2012-05-16T11:58:53Z")
A few minor differences in my version. Tanaer never unvoted SuburbanPlankton and the unvote/vote of the item was after EOD. ---------- **Lynch Vote** ---------- **Mosier** (8): choie(2961), AstralRejection(2980), Visorslash(2981\*), NormalPhase(3033\*), Guiri(3038), SilverJan(3041) **gnarlycharlie** (3): [del]SilverJan(2890-3041)[/del], [del]Visorslash(2891-2891\*)[/del], [del]AstralRejection(2903-2980)[/del], InnerStickler(2914), Lightfoot(2985), glee(2991), [del]NormalPhase(3022-3033)[/del], [del]Guiri(3032-3038)[/del] **Visorslash** (3): Mosier(2823\*), septimus(2830), [del]SilverJan(2850-2890)[/del] **SuburbanPlankton** (2): Tanaer(2853), storyteller(2905) **Guiri** (1): Scathach(2806) **NormalPhase** (0): [del]Visorslash(2821-2891\*)[/del] **Tanaer** (0): [del]NormalPhase(2807-3022\*)[/del] **Scathach** (0): [del]Guiri(2803-3032)[/del], [del]NormalPhase(2804-2807\*)[/del] ---------- **Blue Bow** ---------- **NormalPhase** (5): Guiri(2803), NormalPhase(2804\*), AstralRejection(2815), Tanaer(2822) **Visorslash** (2): Visorslash(2811\*) **Lightfoot** (1): septimus(2838) ---------- **Red Bow** ---------- **AstralRejection** (3): Guiri(2803), AstralRejection(2815), Tanaer(2822) **Visorslash** (2): Visorslash(2811\*) **Tanaer** (1): septimus(2838) ---------- **White Scepter** ---------- **Guiri** (4): Guiri(2803), AstralRejection(2815), Tanaer(2822), septimus(2838) **Visorslash** (2): Visorslash(2811\*) **choie** (1): choie(3008) ---------- **White Staff** ---------- **Visorslash** (2): Visorslash(2811\*) **SilverJan** (2): Guiri(2803), Septimus(2838) ---------- **Teal Harp** ---------- **glee** (4): glee(2817), Mosier(2823\*), septimus(2838) **Tanaer** (2): Tanaer(2822), choie(3008) **Visorslash** (2): Visorslash(2811\*) **choie** (1): Guiri(2803) ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3054 "2012-05-16T12:09:36Z")
That’s a lot better. Thanks for clearing that up. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3055 "2012-05-16T13:54:05Z")
sigh. I feel like a total twit for forgetting the unvote. You guys all seemed to notice it though- could noone have mentioned it to me _before_ eod? ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3056 "2012-05-16T14:03:04Z")
i see Day has ended without my knowing. i even failed to vote. ☹ it seems i won’t be lynched but that may just delay the inevitable. i may die at Dusk or toNight. seems some people don’t like players with a vig capability. scum could also think i’m too much of a threat to leave alive. also as much as i prefer **Mosier** lynched over me, it seems too easy to lynch him. he comes back as a zombie so he might be scum. it may be meta but **Pizza** is rarely obvious. > [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > This whole game is a mess for me. I really didn’t like **gnarly** killing\*\* Gad\*\*. I know he said it was for self preservation but there are players out there that can protect and that is often exposed during the Day phase. Sorry but I’m not sure if I buy it. > > **Gnarly** , would you have told us that you had killed\*\* Gad\*\* if you hadn’t been seen doing it? Who else have you killed? i haven’t killed anyone else. you may have not noticed but there has been a discussion that my kill was the first that wasn’t from Phere. on prior Nights i had the watching ability. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Gnarly, If it looks like you’re going to be the lynch, would you mind PMing me and someone else you trust what you can tell us about your class? If you die, I’d like to maximize town’s information gains. i wouldn’t mind communicating even if i’m not lynched. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3057 "2012-05-16T14:13:32Z")
Cool! Shoot me a PM with whatever you’re comfortable telling me. I’d suggest sending it to someone else, too, so it can be verified later. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3058 "2012-05-16T14:27:15Z")
I wonder if **askthepizzaguy** might solicit a co-mod for this game? **Hoopy Frood** for example? I hate to sound like **Gadarene** but I think the nebulous EOD and EON periods are wreaking havoc on both user participation and motivation. I totally understand that **pizza** is doing us a favor (and I’ve always defended his tough schedule) but I hate to see the enthusiasm for the game dropping steadily. Plus, I _really really really_ do not like that players are being asked to come up with the tallies ourselves. I mean, I don’t mine our regular in-progress vote counts, but _official_ tallies should never come from players themselves. That’s just asking for trouble, especially in a game like this, where presumably it’s only the game mod who really knows who’s double-voting or single voting or half-voting or voting while doing the rhumba wearing a hat made out of fruit, or whatever the other options may be. If **pizza** opens up to a partner – obviously not one of the players (alive or dead, assuming the dead might be brought back as that’s obviously the game mechanism) – then perhaps with a partner or assistant, **pizza** will have an easier time of keeping track of stuff without having to rely on obviously biased and not-always-accurate players\*. - No offense to **Guiri** or **Visorslash** , but we’re _all_ biased, and presumably most of us are in the dark one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3059 "2012-05-16T14:28:57Z")
NETA: “I don’t mine”? Well, this is true enough; I am neither a RPG dwarf nor do I even play Minecraft. But obviously I meant “I don’t mind.” ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3060 "2012-05-16T14:30:48Z")
> [@choie](#): > > voting while doing the rhumba wearing a hat made out of fruit _How did you know?!_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=152) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=154)