# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 167
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3322 "2012-05-23T21:57:48Z")
(“You” in preceding post refers to Astral.) ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3323 "2012-05-23T22:00:52Z")
> [@Tanaer](#): > > I suppose I should shut up, since I haven’t attacked anyone but Phere, so I’m doing a whopping great amount of assuming. Yes, just shut up for now lol, I think you could be Town, I could be wrong but… you look good to me now. BTW I was joking 🙂 Talk as much as you want to. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3324 "2012-05-23T22:01:36Z")
> [@Tanaer](#): > > Glee doesn’t ping me at the moment. And why would he be able to talk about his previous character? I don’t see why not and I don’t see a moderator allowing a player to sub back in but asking them to forget everything they learned in the previous incarnation. The player cannot forget everything and will continue to let choices and actions be influenced by the previous incarnation. If the player is on the scum team, all intel will have been shared already, as the mod has no control over what happens off board. @ Inner, were you given a similar warning about your brief existence? > [@Tanaer](#): > > Guiri, do you know what the blue ring you got from Weedy does? No, I just tried the Diamond one yesterDay and will try the blue one toDay. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3325 "2012-05-23T22:14:12Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I don’t see why not and I don’t see a moderator allowing a player to sub back in but asking them to forget everything they learned in the previous incarnation. The player cannot forget everything and will continue to let choices and actions be influenced by the previous incarnation. If the player is on the scum team, all intel will have been shared already, as the mod has no control over what happens off board. I guess it just seems logical to me that a player subbing in after death would be asked to concentrate on being the new character and try to forget the other one. Obviously it’s not totally enforceable, but you owe it to game balance as the host to at least ask, don’t you? But yeah, if the others weren’t given similar instructions then it will start to smell. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3326 "2012-05-23T22:20:48Z")
I tried my Sapphire pendant and I was told it was more of a defensive thing. That’s why I wanted all the sapphire stuff to maybe make me stronger. I tried it against Visorslashs, cos I Didn’t really care what it did ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3327 "2012-05-23T22:32:22Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I tried my Sapphire pendant and I was told it was more of a defensive thing. That’s why I wanted all the sapphire stuff to maybe make me stronger. I tried it against Visorslashs, cos I Didn’t really care what it did Hmm, interesting take. I was thinking more along the lines it was item type (e.g. pendant) that made it more likely to be defensive. Certainly helms, bracers, etc must be! But you could be right. Even so, it’s not a gem vs colour thing, as my ruby ring is definitely offensive. Speaking of powers etc, my request for a heal still stands. I suppose I’d better guard myself but any assistance along that direction would also be gratefully appreciated. I’m passing back through fighter today, which leaves me very vulnerable with people at current levels. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3328 "2012-05-23T22:49:54Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > That leaves: > > - Scathach, who I’m currently voting for and am quite convinced she’s a threat to town. Visor was able to heal himself so further attacks on Scathach may not suffice and she somehow survived a murder attempt last Night > - Fubbleskag, who has not posted in a long time, I’d be happy to attack > - Tanaer, who I really didn’t notice until I saw that he’d voted items to me on several occasions, thanks! > - RealityTrip/Inner Stickler, barely noticed Inner since he returned > - Lilflower/Glee, no opinion, can you really not talk about your previous reincarnation? > - storyteller0910, is he alive? > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I don’t see why not and I don’t see a moderator allowing a player to sub back in but asking them to forget everything they learned in the previous incarnation. The player cannot forget everything and will continue to let choices and actions be influenced by the previous incarnation. If the player is on the scum team, all intel will have been shared already, as the mod has no control over what happens off board. > [@Tanaer](#): > > I guess it just seems logical to me that a player subbing in after death would be asked to concentrate on being the new character and try to forget the other one. Obviously it’s not totally enforceable, but you owe it to game balance as the host to at least ask, don’t you? > > But yeah, if the others weren’t given similar instructions then it will start to smell. A couple of game days after my LG Soldier was killed, AskthePizzaGuy contacted me to say there was a chance for me to return (as there were players not taking part.) One condition was that I not use or discuss anything I learnt in my first incarnation. After I made that promise, I got Lilflower’s character (and I don’t know anything about what that character did before I took over.) ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3329 "2012-05-23T23:21:05Z")
> [@glee](#): > > A couple of game days after my LG Soldier was killed, AskthePizzaGuy contacted me to say there was a chance for me to return (as there were players not taking part.) > One condition was that I not use or discuss anything I learnt in my first incarnation. > After I made that promise, I got Lilflower’s character (and I don’t know anything about what that character did before I took over.) Well it is great to see you, have fun with the game or not, that’s all I can say ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3330 "2012-05-23T23:24:31Z")
[quote=“Silver\_Jan, post:3329, topic:617480”] Well it is great to see you, have fun with the game or not, that’s all I can say[/Q Tis a joke Bored at the moment ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3331 "2012-05-24T01:29:08Z")
> [@glee](#): > > A couple of game days after my LG Soldier was killed, AskthePizzaGuy contacted me to say there was a chance for me to return (as there were players not taking part.) > One condition was that I not use or discuss anything I learnt in my first incarnation. > After I made that promise, I got Lilflower’s character (and I don’t know anything about what that character did before I took over.) I initially thought that \*\* glee \*\* had been resurrected- toasted my thought process ( \* searching this set is a bender\*) as messed up as this game is. ( not broken, just very cornfusing) Subbing someone in with prior knowledge \* that they are requested to forget \* is messed up there is a dynamic change that is mucking me up here. A player with Scum knowledge can not be subbed in to another character. Town can be thrown into either pool ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3332 "2012-05-24T01:36:11Z")
I feel like I am no NFBSK help these days and I have no idea what to do about that. \*\* guiri \*\* and \*\* septimus \*\* \* sound \* sane to me . I did hypothesize earlier that pizzamod was using this game as some sort of a psych science project. I’m still not convinced I’m completely wrong. \*\* Is anyone up for mod kill or have we ditched that ? \*\* ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3333 "2012-05-24T01:39:07Z")
Since I’m asking… can I get a something for this question? > [@LightFoot](#): > > question @ items > \*\* To we have to tell you that we are using an item, or are they just there? > > IE does one have to tell you they want to " wear the tiara" or " use the sharp pointy stick" ?\*\* > > I ask in case an item with say, protective qualities is just left on the nightstand it might not work? > > - I don’t have a tiara or a sharp pointy stick and I still don’t know what my items do. this is for information porpoises \* ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3334 "2012-05-24T02:33:19Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ Inner, were you given a similar warning about your brief existence? I was told to consider my former role unfamiliar and unknown. Realitytrip appears to have made some interesting choices and has not done me the favor of leaving notes so I am left with a lot of headscratching. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3335 "2012-05-24T03:06:35Z")
Lightfoot: I think we’re on our own with all remaining players. As far as items go, they have to be actively used, _if it can be used._ Some items are defensive in nature and will activate as needed to defend their owner. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3336 "2012-05-24T04:52:45Z")
Hey guys, sorry I haven’t posted anything of substantial value yet toDay. I’m gonna tackle finding scum tomorrow, I promise. Reminder to folks like me: day ends on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3337 "2012-05-24T08:05:28Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Hey guys, sorry I haven’t posted anything of substantial value yet toDay. I’m gonna tackle finding scum tomorrow, I promise. > > Reminder to folks like me: day ends on Saturday. Are you sure??? I need time to think about a vote. This game was supposed to be just fun and I got so involved. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3338 "2012-05-24T20:17:31Z")
Hello? Anyone want to lynch scum toDay? ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3339 "2012-05-24T20:43:25Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > question @ items > \*\* To we have to tell you that we are using an item, or are they just there? > > IE does one have to tell you they want to " wear the tiara" or " use the sharp pointy stick" ?\*\* Defensive items will work on oneself automatically. Defensive items will work on others if used like a spell, in place of other actions. Offensive items will work like a spell, in place of other actions. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3340 "2012-05-24T20:44:28Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\*Is anyone up for mod kill or have we ditched that ? \*\* Modkills at this point would be even worse than leaving them around. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3341 "2012-05-24T21:27:32Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Hello? Anyone want to lynch scum toDay? Hmm, yes, I’d say it’s probably a good idea! Bearing in mind what our mod just told us, I’m gonna **unvote Fubbleskag** And go for my second choice, **vote RealityTrip aka Inner Stickler** First, because of the lying, or at least obfuscating, to Town regarding the attack on **Visorslash** (who I bet was Town or at least Neutral early on in the game), then waffling on **Astral** , and now **Inner** being oddly quiet despite asking to be subbed (or having **pizzamod** specifically ask for a sub for **Reality** ). And then there’s **septimus** ’s rather strange exoneration of **Inner** for no reason that I can see, which makes me worried about **septimus** as well. **Guiri** , do you have any doubts about **RealityStickler** (or should that be **InnerTrip** )? What pings you worst about **Scathach**? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=166) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=168)