# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 170
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3382 "2012-05-25T20:46:12Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > Is there anyone in the game that you do trust? > > Your top 2 scum candidates I find very trust worthy. If\*\* choie\*\* is scum then I will eat my hat, not that I have one but I will buy one and send the bill to her 🙂 Lols, not any more really - I was even starting to suspect Normal Phase just before she got killed, simply because she’d survived so long 🙂 I always get taken over by paranoia at end game though so that’s not particularly unusual. \*\* vote Tanaer \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3383 "2012-05-25T20:57:59Z")
When is EOD btw - tomorrow yeah? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3384 "2012-05-25T21:24:52Z")
I think the vote is: **Scathach** (3): Guiri(3242), InnerStickler(3348) **Fubbleskag** (2): [del]Choie(3245-3340)[/del], [del]SilverJan(3238-3296)[/del], Glee(3286), Septimus(3291) **InnerStickler** (1): choie(3340) **Tanaer** (1): Scathach(3381) **Septimus** (0): [del]SilverJan(3296-3307)[/del] **AstralRejection** (0): [del]septimus(3254-3264,3266-3291)[/del] **SilverJan** (0): [del]septimus(3264-3266)[/del] **Not Voting** (7): SilverJan, Fubbleskag, Gadarene, AstralRejection, Lightfoot, Tanaer, storyteller0910 Fubbles has not posted in almost 3 weeks, Story in almost a week. Let’s see if I have this straight. Scathach claims to have taken absolutely no Day or Night actions from the start of the game up until last Night when she defended herself for the first time and just happened to survive an assassination attempt and took 700hp in physical attacks, added to her 150. She barely participated throughout the whole game but finally started to get stuck in the day the mod called “endgame” and after being called out by a number of players, one resurrected goodie and another who was killed shortly after, and she’s voting her No2 suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3385 "2012-05-25T21:32:56Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Let’s see if I have this straight. Scathach claims to have taken absolutely no Day or Night actions from the start of the game up until last Night when she defended herself for the first time and just happened to survive an assassination attempt and took 700hp in physical attacks, added to her 150. She barely participated throughout the whole game but finally started to get stuck in the day the mod called “endgame” and after being called out by a number of players, one resurrected goodie and another who was killed shortly after, and she’s voting her No2 suspect. No - I only posted my actions from after I became a Templar Night a Day ago. And I’m voting Tanaer because no one except me finds you suspicious so whats the point of voting you. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3386 "2012-05-25T21:51:46Z")
Eh, since I’m lynch leader anyway I may as well claim. (Although I already have in a sense by giving my role.) I’m a Templar Knight - a role which you can only achieve by being Neutral/Neutral. A Paladin would be Lawful/Good and a Terror Knight would be Chaotic/Evil. I was also gnarlycharlie’s lover (wahey :)). Which was not quite like lovers normally, but more like a pair of neutral masons, since we had our own thread to communicate. We would win (non win stealing) if either of us survive til endgame. I started as a Cleric. Day 1 I attacked Lightfoot (probably obvious since I was the only one voting her that day). I healed visorslash after that (possibly d2, I kind of forget, and I didn’t take an action every day) because I thought he was being unfairly railroaded for being a newbie. I was the one who healed gnarlycharlie, but switched to Templar Knight immediatly after so couldn’t heal him again ☹ (Didn’t know Templar Knight’s powers when I switched or I wouldn’t have tbh, all I can do is attack and defend, healing was more useful to try and keep both of us alive). So yeah. My participation has been crap because basically I don’t think I play neutral well. I don’t have the motivation to scumhunt as much, and I don’t have a scum team to not let down. The reason I’m particpating more was because with gnarly’s death I feel an obligation to at least try to fight for a win for him since he can’t. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3387 "2012-05-25T22:11:15Z")
You’re claiming 3rd party non win stealing neutral? In a game with free communication, you had your “own” thread? You attacked Lightfoot D1? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3388 "2012-05-25T22:15:04Z")
So, if all the neutrals want to claim now, maybe it’ll be easier for whoever’s left… InnerStickler, you’re a neutral? Septimus? Scathach? Fubbleskag? Glee? Tanaer? Astral? SilverJan? Lightfoot? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3389 "2012-05-25T22:16:07Z")
For completeness sake, choie? story? gadarene? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3390 "2012-05-25T22:18:52Z")
There was a single attack on Lightfoot Day1, both choie and scathach are claiming responsibility: > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > \*\*Lightfoot takes 25hp damage. > \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3391 "2012-05-25T22:20:59Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > You’re claiming 3rd party non win stealing neutral? > > In a game with free communication, you had your “own” thread? > > You attacked Lightfoot D1? Yes, yes, yes. “own” being a thread for me and gnarlycharlie. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3392 "2012-05-25T22:48:53Z")
Please give me a link to the thread you shared with gnarly. As mentioned above, choie claims to have attacked lightfoot D1, I hope she gets back so you two can sort that one out. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3393 "2012-05-25T22:58:46Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Please give me a link to the thread you shared with gnarly. > > As mentioned above, choie claims to have attacked lightfoot D1, I hope she gets back so you two can sort that one out. Uh, srsly? I can’t imagine a case where that would be within the rules, even given that PM’ing is allowed, since it would allow for complete confirmation. We aren’t even allowed to quote role PM’s. It’s one thing to say you think I’m lying, which is fine and all within the rules and play standard of mafia in general. But just say that, rather than asking for something so blatantly impossible that it’s a fabulously contrived and obvious way of saying you think I’m lying - with the added bonus of being set up to make me look bad since I have to say no. If you’re trying to make some “gotcha” about me not posting a link to a thread set up by the mod then you’re reaching. Just in case \*\* PizzaMod, would sharing a link to an offboard communication thread be breaking the rules \*\* ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3394 "2012-05-25T23:05:12Z")
Thanks as always to **Astral** for that EOD / EON post listing. That is unbelievably helpful and has saved me a lot of searching through this epic thread. And also to **Guiri** for the vote count. Oddly disparate votes so far. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Ha, I fully expect choie’s first scumflip will take me by complete surprise. I think she’s good enough to snow me, which admittedly is not very difficult. > [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > She would probably be just as good as scum, I want to be on her scum team although she probably wouldn’t want me 😃 Heh, this is the strangest flattery I’ve ever received. “She’d be awesome scum! I’m not even scummy enough for her!” 😃 Anyway, enough preamble. Yeah, that pathetic **LightFoot** attack on D1 was definitely mine. The even sadder part is that I thought 25hp was a pretty _powerful_ attack, because at the time that was 1/8 of my hp level. Turns out, it’s apparently the lowest attack you can make. And that, my friends and foes, is when **choie** realized she was a 98lb weakling. Hit-pointwise, anyway. I’m not saying **Scathach** is lying, but… um, either that or **askthepizzaguy** left out an attack on **LightFoot**. Or one of our atacks didn’t go through.\* Occam’s razor says… **unvote Inner Stickler** **vote Scathach** - (In fairness, I will say that I never did receive a “your attack went through” PM from **pizza** , but the game thread is where all those results usually show up.) ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3395 "2012-05-25T23:07:25Z")
No, no ploy or sneaky move, it was a straightforward request. I would not ask someone to break the rules. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3396 "2012-05-25T23:08:03Z")
Also – **Scathach** is a cleric, who’s also a Lover / Mason, who turns into a Templar Knight… and apparently the only Knight in the game without a double-vote mechanic? Something’s screwy in Parma. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3397 "2012-05-25T23:14:14Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Also – **Scathach** is a cleric, who’s also a Lover / Mason, who turns into a Templar Knight… and apparently the only Knight in the game without a double-vote mechanic? > > Something’s screwy in Parma. Lover is my wincon, I’m not a mason, I just said it was similar in that we had an offboard communication thread. Changing class is hardly surprising. As for the double vote - I don’t know actually, I don’t think I voted yesterDay. We’ll see today I guess. It certainly wasn’t mentioned in my role PM. Another mod question then: \*\* Can you clarify that the EOD post on D1 was correct w/r/t Lightfoot \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3398 "2012-05-25T23:32:57Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > So, if all the neutrals want to claim now, maybe it’ll be easier for whoever’s left… > > InnerStickler, you’re a neutral? Septimus? Scathach? Fubbleskag? Glee? Tanaer? Astral? SilverJan? Lightfoot? I can win two ways: with town or by having the most money. I don’t really call that neutral. Town with an escape hatch, maybe but I have no interest in seeing scum win. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3399 "2012-05-26T01:02:15Z")
This game is off the tracks. \*\* Scathach \*\* \*\* choie \*\* can you link where you claimed the attack on me? if \*\* scathach \*\* is coming late to that party then I’m thinking that they lost track. But it makes no sense either way. Damn. I should have some time tomorrow ( clock) morning to get in here. Given that \*\* choie \*\* has been active, and \*\* scathach \*\* got more vocal after becoming a target I feel it is likely that \*\* scathach \*\* is the untrue one at this point. now if \*\* pizza \*\* can find the notes from that far back and corrects things that will be a different duck. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3400 "2012-05-26T01:09:12Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > So, if all the neutrals want to claim now, maybe it’ll be easier for whoever’s left… > > InnerStickler, you’re a neutral? Septimus? Scathach? Fubbleskag? Glee? Tanaer? Astral? SilverJan? Lightfoot? I started law: lawfull moral: good to advance ( well I thought it was advancing) I had to attain one neutral. It is my assumption that I changed law: neutral But without a full new role I’m not positive ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3401 "2012-05-26T01:09:38Z")
Vote Scathach. On account of taking credit for Choie’s action. I trust Choie more than I trust you. I’m currently planning on attacking fubbleskag tonight. **Question for everyone: one of you owns a green staff. Who is it?** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=169) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=171)