# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3442 "2012-05-26T19:37:21Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> It’s somewhat disconcerting to see so much agreement in the lynch votes and for several of the items.

Yeah, I agree; there must be bussing going on big time.

I really think the idea that there’s no cohesive scum group, but rather a batch of individuals working loosely together but with their own hope of ultimate power, is the right one. We’re probably dealing with people who specifically chose their own path of evil, jockeying for power for whoever controls the big bad demon. I like this theory for three reasons:

a) It feels like the only explanation that makes sense considering we’ve seen several neutrals and a few Evils but no one specifically labelled “Scum.” I know it’s possible for Scum teams to have a “perfect” record, not a single person lynched, but it’s rare from all I’ve seen.

b) It seems the sort of wacked-out set-up that **pizza** would create

c) It creates a rather neat theme/story, which is a really nice change from most of the Mafia games I’ve read / participated in. People aren’t inherently “scum,” but through their own choices they’ve turned evil. Power corrupts, absolutely power corrupts absolutely. Very common fantasy theme. (Actually, in most fiction.)

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3443 "2012-05-26T19:44:52Z")

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As to the items. I have a few and I have no clue what they are for. so it’s easy to say ‘ok’ if you want it go ahead. BUT the players that really want an item may know what it is for so be aware.  
And again I have no clue to mine. but that dragon’s tooth appears to be powerful and we know the black helm was

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3444 "2012-05-26T20:18:43Z")

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**Dragons fang Gadarene**

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3445 "2012-05-26T20:23:58Z")

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Welcome back Fubbles. Any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3446 "2012-05-26T20:36:00Z")

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Let’s do the Vote Count again!

For the lynch.  
Nine votes.[ul][li]Scathach: Guiri (3,242), Inner Stickler II (3,348), Choie (3,393), LightFoot (3,398), Astral Rejection (3,400), Silver Jan (3,407), Glee II (3,412)[sup]1[/sup], Tanaer (3418)[/ul][/li]One vote.[ul][li]fubbleskag: septimus (3,291)[/li][li]Tanaer: Scathach (3,381)[/ul][/li]  
Item votes.  
Beryl Bracer.Tanaer (5): septimus (3,409), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Choie (3,436), Guiri (3,440)  
LightFoot (1): LightFoot (3,427)  
Beryl Ring.Astral Rejection (5): septimus (3,409), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Choie (3,436), Guiri (3,440)  
Black Bracer.Glee II (7): Glee (3,279)[sup]1[/sup], Inner Stickler (3,405), septimus (3,409), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Choie (3,436)  
Guiri (1): Guiri (3,440)  
Blue Bow.Choie (7): Choie (3,404), Inner Stickler II (3,405), Silver Jan (3,408), Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), septimus (3,439), Guiri (3,440)  
Dragon’s FangGadarene (5): septimus (3,409), LightFoot (3,427)Tanaer (3,435), Guiri (3,440), fubbleskag (3,443)  
Inner Stickler II (1): Inner Stickler II (3,405)  
Astral Rejection (1): Astral Rejection (3,424)  
Silver Jan (1): Choie (3,436)  
Green BowGadarene (3): Tanaer (3,422), Astral Rejection (3,424), Guiri (3.440)  
septimus (2): LightFoot (3,427), septimus (3,439)  
LightFoot (1): Choie (3,436)  
Ruby PendantSilver Jan (5): septimus (3,409), Silver Jan (3,423), Tanaer (3,428), Choie (3.436), Guiri (3,440)  
Guiri (1): Astral Rejection (3,424)  
As usual, please draw attention to any errors in the above lists.

[sup]1[/sup]Vote doubled.  
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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3447 "2012-05-26T20:47:55Z")

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MHaye, my vote should be doubled too.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3448 "2012-05-26T21:03:19Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> MHaye, my vote should be doubled too.

Thanks for the info.

It’s Dusk now, so the point is moot. But should corrections be necessary I’ll remember.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3449 "2012-05-26T21:05:11Z")

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You have a double vote, **Guiri**? When did this happen?!

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3450 "2012-05-26T21:18:08Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> You have a double vote, **Guiri**? When did this happen?!

Last Night, as I said earlier:

> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> Night 5  
> Promoted to WhiteKnight

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3451 "2012-05-26T21:21:19Z")

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My stars, I totally missed that. Well, that’s good to know.

So can we have a count on who exactly has double votes now?

- Guiri
- Glee  
…?

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3452 "2012-05-26T22:37:45Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Can I have your life? That sounds awesome.

Believe me, it being sunny here is so unusual as to be practically a national holiday 🙂

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3453 "2012-05-27T13:29:56Z")

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Are we just waiting for the Mod?

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3454 "2012-05-27T13:45:40Z")

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Yes. I’ll be back to finish the round after I get some bed rest. But I have two days off so there’s no excuses beyond mere sleep! 😃

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3455 "2012-05-27T13:48:19Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Yes. I’ll be back to finish the round after I get some bed rest. But I have two days off so there’s no excuses beyond mere sleep! 😃

Yay!! I loves ya Pizzamod, go and get some rest and give us some decent results i.e. a scum lynch 🙂

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3456 "2012-05-27T14:02:55Z")

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What, someone goes around admitting to their \*\*Chaotic/Evil-ness \*\*and all of a sudden they’re considered scum?

You people are _weird._

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3457 "2012-05-27T14:09:44Z")

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I also love the nicknames of the replaced-in players who had previous characters, o lovely mod-assistant MHaye.

They sound like movie sequels.

**Inner Stickler II: The Legend of Curly’s Gold.**

Or how about **Glee II: The Re-Glee-ening.**  
_Contains 50% more glee._

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3458 "2012-05-27T14:11:47Z")

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Even better-

**Glee II: Judgment Day**  
Okay I’ll stop now. 😛

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3459 "2012-05-27T16:50:49Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> What, someone goes around admitting to their \*\*Chaotic/Evil-ness \*\*and all of a sudden they’re considered scum?
> 
> You people are _weird._

Woohoo, we got one, I hope lol

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3460 "2012-05-28T04:24:58Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Yes. I’ll be back to finish the round after I get some bed rest. But I have two days off so there’s no excuses beyond mere sleep! 😃

HEY! _poke poke poke_ Pay attention to us!

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**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3461 "2012-05-28T05:07:16Z")

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**You must have been exhausted if you’re still sleeping 15 hours later!**

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