# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 177
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3522 "2012-05-29T20:00:37Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I had no special knowledge that fubbles was immune to magic, but I do know that protection against magic does exist. And I’m sure I’m not the only one to note he seems powerful and has gone eerily quiet. How can we note that he seems powerful, when the guy is creepily lurking around and hasn’t claimed any actions in 1000+ posts except to vote an item to someone else yesterday? Now that’s _power_, baby! > [@septimus](#): > > BTW, my result PM from Pizza stated a reason why my Attack failed. Before stating it publicly, I wonder if choie and guiri – who also claim failed Magic Attacks against fubbles – will also admit to such a reason in their result PMs. Hmm, yes, I wonder if they will? I also wonder if they’ll do it without asking? And I wonder if they’ll do it without withholding the info until others have stated it? > [@choie](#): > > As far as the claims on **fubbles** attacks: I _definitely_ used my emerald ring for the first time yesterDay, for all the good it did. I was told it fired 100hp of Earth-elemental damage at **fubbles** , but was deflected by an item he holds. Coolio, I guess ‘they’ did admit to a reason. (There’s that “admit” again – second time someone’s faux-prosecutored using that term.) [QUOTE=septimus] guess this leaves only choie to comment on whether Result PM gave a reason for failure.) [/quote] No it doesn’t. I explained first. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3523 "2012-05-29T20:09:49Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I used the diamond ring on Scathach the Day before yesterDay and it did 100hp damage, I only learned what the ring did after I used it. YesterDay I used the blue ring on Fubbles, hoping it would do damage, but it didn’t. This morning I learned that the blue ring has protective powers but they were not effective on Fubbles… Wait, you used the diamond ring on **Gnarly** and it did damage, but this morning you learn that it has protective powers? How did you learn this? Can protective powers do damage to someone else? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3524 "2012-05-29T20:18:26Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Wait, you used the diamond ring on **Gnarly** and it did damage, but this morning you learn that it has protective powers? How did you learn this? Can protective powers do damage to someone else? No, he used the Diamond ring on **gnarly** and the **Blue** ring on Fubbles. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3525 "2012-05-29T20:23:23Z")
Oh FFS. I’m an idiot. Thanks **Silver Jan**. That’s what I get for staying up all night for a deadline. I’m not posting again until I get some decent sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3526 "2012-05-29T20:29:37Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Oh FFS. I’m an idiot. Thanks **Silver Jan**. That’s what I get for staying up all night for a deadline. I’m not posting again until I get some decent sleep. Sleep tight 🙂 I am off to bed now too. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3527 "2012-05-29T21:42:41Z")
> [@choie](#): > > How can we note that he seems powerful, when the guy is creepily lurking around and hasn’t claimed any actions in 1000+ posts except to vote an item to someone else yesterday? Now that’s _power_, baby! > > Hmm, yes, I wonder if they will? I also wonder if they’ll do it without asking? And I wonder if they’ll do it without withholding the info until others have stated it? > > Coolio, I guess ‘they’ did admit to a reason. (There’s that “admit” again – second time someone’s faux-prosecutored using that term.) > > No it doesn’t. I explained first. Sorry, **choie** , I missed the mention. :o :o My PM was similar, though didn’t use the word “deflected.” My feeling that **fubbles** is powerful is based partly on that “item” (the _One True Ring_ ? :dubious: ). I worry that his relative invisibility is similar to that of Gollum – he’s got the True Ring and needn’t worry about anything. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3528 "2012-05-30T01:09:39Z")
\*\* I wouldn’t mind an early Night, but I would like to know what my new character can \* do \* first. if possible \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3529 "2012-05-30T06:50:36Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* I wouldn’t mind an early Night, but I would like to know what my new character can \* do \* first. if possible \*\* **What he said** ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3530 "2012-05-30T06:52:17Z")
Evening came and morning came, the - what? Oh no exactly the same day, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3531 "2012-05-30T06:54:35Z")
Pizza you tease, show me bard, already. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3532 "2012-05-30T07:00:25Z")
Damn so I get worried and check messages and the class change pm I distinctly remember typing isn’t listed in sent messages. Curse you system glitches. I’m so disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3533 "2012-05-30T12:11:14Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Sorry for being crabby, **septimus**. This is _Lord of the Flies_ all over again. > > As far as the claims on **fubbles** attacks: I _definitely_ used my emerald ring for the first time yesterDay, for all the good it did. I was told it fired 100hp of Earth-elemental damage at **fubbles** , but was deflected by an item he holds. > > And now **Astral** is claiming the successful attack on **fubbles**. Good grief. So we have three attacks, two of which were definitely magic and unsuccessful, one possibly non-magic with a bolt, which was successful. (I say “possibly” because a “bolt” could be a lightning bolt, couldn’t it? Or does it mean something else? What kind of weapon fires a bolt?) > > So four claimed attacks and only three listed attacks; of these, there were three claimed magic attacks, and only two listed magic attacks. > > **Astral** seems trustworthy to me. But between **Guiri** ’s “joke” smudge and **Gadarene** ’s creepy silence, I’m now worried about the revived folks and the choices they’ve made. Especially since my suspicion appears to be right about this game being about people’s choices. > > That’s why I disagree with **glee**. I remain convinced that this game is about the corruption of good (or at least neutral) people, whether in search for power or some other motivation. **Weedy** probably held Phere’s chains to start with, which is why she was Very Evil, but maybe she wasn’t an inherently “bad” person, sort of like… if Luke had chosen the Dark Side in RoTJ; eventually someone usurped her – which seems to be the only explanation for Phere turning against her that makes sense, unless the demon temporarily freed himself – and the usurper was gradually turned more and more Evil. I wonder if that person was **PetW** , whose weird non-reveal _still_ hasn’t been explained; maybe he held control for such a short time that he didn’t have time to turn completely scummy. Next came **Visorslash** , and again he was killed by the demon or someone who now had control of Phere. Now **Scathach** , who didn’t have time to hunt down the demon to do her dirty work because finally we lynched someone before they got the chance. There have certainly been people, at least fictionally, who were turned Evil and angry at the world due to the loss of a loved one. Actually isn’t that Anakin/Darth’s arc in the _Star Wars_ prequels? > > So my theory remains that I don’t think there is an official Scum team. I think it’s all individuals who decide to be evil, and thus “scummy.” In fact, didn’t somewhere **Pizzaguy** _say_ that no one would be corrupted/recruited _against his or her will_? If so, this backs my theory up IMHO. Creepy silence? Get over yourself. What part of “I said I was going to be in Turkey” don’t you understand? I wasn’t expecting to get resurrected, and frankly I find it a bit annoying, since I’ve long since given up being able to play this particular game without getting frustrated at the structure and the interminable wait between phases. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3534 "2012-05-30T15:40:08Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Creepy silence? Get over yourself. What part of “I said I was going to be in Turkey” don’t you understand? I wasn’t expecting to get resurrected, and frankly I find it a bit annoying, since I’ve long since given up being able to play this particular game without getting frustrated at the structure and the interminable wait between phases. My bad. Clearly in addition to forgetting your travel schedule you told us about several weeks ago, I forgot what fun it was to play with you. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3535 "2012-05-30T15:50:47Z")
> [@choie](#): > > My bad. Clearly in addition to forgetting your travel schedule you told us about several weeks ago, I forgot what fun it was to play with you. Several weeks ago? Let me pull up the appropriate posts. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3536 "2012-05-30T15:52:03Z")
Several weeks ago, was it? :rolleyes: > [@Gadarene](#): > > Hi, everybody! I’m back, but I’m still in Turkey for the next week or so, so my participation will be limited. I’m also still a Lawful Good Town ranger, so the theory about us resurrected people coming back as scum (while an intriguing possibility that I was looking forward to testing the validity of when I opened my resurrection PM) is not true in my case. I’m the same as before, minus some hit points and my bow. > > I join in the puzzlement at the apparent closeness of endgame – how would the math work out, given the deaths last night and assuming that I’m Town – to put us at lylo or close to it? How many more scum are we likely looking at? > > I had some suspicions after my death, but when charlie flipped neutral they weren’t borne out. Is PetW still in play? Has he even posted since Day Two? > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Welcome back, Gadarene! Good to see you. Enjoy your vacation, and play when you get a chance. > > PetW was a wizard with no alignment information given. PetW is also very, very dead. > [@choie](#): > > I for one never doubted you. Well, once you were dead, anyway. 🙂 > > He (he?) was killed a few Days ago, and for some reason flipped… neither good nor bad, neither town nor scum. His flip was “obscure” or some such lingo. I’ve brought this up a couple of times because it’s weird as hell and it’s the _only_ such death that resulted in no alignment reveal whatsoever. But oddly no one seems to care about this. > > So far the only “one-off” flippers have been, as far as I can tell, **Weedy** (Very Evil), **PetW** (???), and **Visorslash** (Evil). I would assume this indicates… something. But hell if I know exactly _what_. Creepy silence indeed. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3537 "2012-05-30T16:15:09Z")
Jesus, chill the fuck out. Everything feels like it’s a few weeks ago in this game. I’m glad you’re on vacation, have a great time. Don’t feel obligated to play just because someone\* decided you were worth reviving as an asset, heaven knows why. (\* Gotta be Phere. He’s sadistic enough!) ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3538 "2012-05-30T17:00:30Z")
I need to submit my night action for toNight, if it’s not too late to do so. Can people suggest a good target for me to try and track? I’m very behind on the game. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3539 "2012-05-30T21:03:28Z")
Gadarene, I’d suggest tracking Story or Inner Stickler. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3540 "2012-05-30T21:18:20Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Gadarene, I’d suggest tracking Story or Inner Stickler. Yes ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3541 "2012-05-30T21:20:33Z")
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