# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 178
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3542 "2012-05-30T21:45:49Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Gadarene, I’d suggest tracking Story or Inner Stickler. Thanks. Can you briefly summarize why on each? I apologize for not being caught up. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3543 "2012-05-30T21:51:21Z")
☹ If I had to guess, it’s because I’ve claimed neutral with a killing ability and story is just active enough to make himself a nuisance in terms of action tracking. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3544 "2012-05-30T21:52:54Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > ☹ > > If I had to guess, it’s because I’ve claimed neutral with a killing ability and story is just active enough to make himself a nuisance in terms of action tracking. Why sad? Do you care about being tracked? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3545 "2012-05-30T21:55:05Z")
Do you generally track people you have good feelings about? If so, I retract the sad face. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3546 "2012-05-30T22:00:23Z")
NETA: Perhaps I live in a pessimistic pool of cynicism but generally, I see targeting players with anything other than a protect (unless it’s a paranoid doc, in which case, they may be acting as a roleblocker) or an investigation is implicitly a vote of no confidence. If you disagree, I’m more than happy to hear your viewpoint. It’s probably more thought out than mine. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3547 "2012-05-30T22:09:58Z")
I guess my question is: are you worried that people will know who you’re targeting tonight? Because if not, you can just out it in the thread after the fact and save me the trouble, and we can gain double the amount of information. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3548 "2012-05-30T22:12:35Z")
Not if doing so alerts my target to take evasive action or informs other parties that have a vested interest in my target staying alive. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3549 "2012-05-30T22:44:05Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I want lynch Story Good God, have you turned into a zombie without our knowing it? 🙂 But seriously. I have to say I’m not sold on the tactical use of telling people whom to track in public. Unless it’s intended as a) a deterrent or b) a fake-out. If those are the motives, carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3550 "2012-05-31T01:03:56Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Not if doing so alerts my target to take evasive action or informs other parties that have a vested interest in my target staying alive. That’s why I said “after the fact,” yo. So, with that in mind, same question. > [@choie](#): > > Good God, have you turned into a zombie without our knowing it? 🙂 > > But seriously. I have to say I’m not sold on the tactical use of telling people whom to track in public. Unless it’s intended as a) a deterrent or b) a fake-out. > > If those are the motives, carry on. I know you don’t like anything I say or do, choie. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3551 "2012-05-31T01:08:20Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > I know you don’t like anything I say or do, choie. 🙂 High five? ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3552 "2012-05-31T01:24:17Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > I know you don’t like anything I say or do, choie. 🙂 No, I don’t like your constant hyper-defensiveness. For example, I wasn’t even talking to you, for chrissake. People can PM you with their recommendations; there’s nothing wrong with you asking, it’s **Guiri** ’s decision to tell you in public, and thereby alerting your potential targets, that I was commenting on. As someone once said not too long ago, “Get over yourself.” ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3553 "2012-05-31T02:50:06Z")
> [@choie](#): > > No, I don’t like your constant hyper-defensiveness. For example, I wasn’t even talking to you, for chrissake. People can PM you with their recommendations; there’s nothing wrong with you asking, it’s **Guiri** ’s decision to tell you in public, and thereby alerting your potential targets, that I was commenting on. > > As someone once said not too long ago, “Get over yourself.” Always with the kind words. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3554 "2012-05-31T04:13:57Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > That’s why I said “after the fact,” yo. So, with that in mind, same question. Regardless, I’d have to as I’m untrackable. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3555 "2012-05-31T07:47:33Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Good God, have you turned into a zombie without our knowing it? 🙂 > > But seriously. I have to say I’m not sold on the tactical use of telling people whom to track in public. Unless it’s intended as a) a deterrent or b) a fake-out. > > If those are the motives, carry on. Sorry, wine and keyboards don’t mix. Have you ever tried it lol, the keyboard just won’t mix in. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3556 "2012-05-31T07:53:50Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Regardless, I’d have to as I’m untrackable. Seriously, this does not sound like a Town role. Why would Town have to worry about being traced? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3557 "2012-05-31T16:19:40Z")
Yay? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3558 "2012-05-31T16:42:54Z")
Trackable or not, I’m relieved to note Inner doesn’t intend to Kill me toNight: > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Not if doing so … informs other parties that have a vested interest in my target staying alive. AFAIK, no one gives a hoot if I survive. (Or maybe Inner _is_ targeting me, and this was a WIFOM diversion?) > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Yay? Last time you wrote that, I was Town Coroner in the game. My role has changed enough in this game I might be a Coroner or Detective by now … let me look in my crystal ball: [SPOILER]Uh … my eyes are going bleary … bleary … weary … Yes! Yes I sense a Scum! He’s scum not just here, but Scum in the game at IdleMafia as well! What’s his name? What IS his name? I am weary … and the picture’s all bleary … bleary … BLEARY! Yes! The Scum’s name rhymes with[/SPOILER] 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3559 "2012-05-31T17:01:58Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Yay? > [@septimus](#): > > Trackable or not, I’m relieved to note Inner doesn’t intend to Kill me toNight: > > AFAIK, no one gives a hoot if I survive. (Or maybe Inner _is_ targeting me, and this was a WIFOM diversion?) > > 🆒 I _literally_ have no idea what either of you are talking about. **Guiri** seems to be reacting with confused pleasure to **Silver** ’s wine-laden keyboard, **septimus** is responding to **Guiri** , **Inner** or perhaps **Gadarene** pleased that **Inner** doesn’t plan on killing him although as far as I can tell, no one even mentioned him… Is this a private conversation that’s spilling over into the thread or something? And I repeat, though now I must clearly do so asserting that this is NO INSULT TO **GADARENE** , that it seems damn strange in a game with PM capabilities to be discussing “hey, let’s track XXXX” unless you’re hoping to a) prevent that target from doing whatever-they-were-planning-on-doing, or b) faking them out and actually planning on tracking someone else. But “b” wouldn’t be necessary if you PMed **Gadarene** in the first place. If it wouldn’t hurt some major con _a la The Sting_, could **Guiri** please explain his logic to me, preferably in private if there is some super-sekrit plan going on? Thanks. Also, **have we received any confirmation on when the Night ends, if not on Saturday as originally planned?** ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3560 "2012-05-31T17:09:50Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Also, **have we received any confirmation on when the Night ends, if not on Saturday as originally planned?** I hope not soon as **I have received no PM from Pizza acknowledging my request to learn what Night Powers, if any, I even have!** ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3561 "2012-05-31T17:17:26Z")
If Inner is, indeed, an untrackable non-Townie with a killing capacity, he needs to be vigged or lynched at the earliest opportunity. Right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=177) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=179)