# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 180
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3582 "2012-06-01T05:48:23Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > I had no choice in being resurrected, as far as I know. Are we allowed to discuss this topic? Because I did get a choice (but my circumstances were different from Gadarene’s…) ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3583 "2012-06-01T14:37:54Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Are we allowed to discuss this topic? > > Because I did get a choice (but my circumstances were different from Gadarene’s…) Could that be because you subbed back in? Or have I confused who was resurrected and who subbed in? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3584 "2012-06-01T15:05:22Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Could that be because you subbed back in? > > Or have I confused who was resurrected and who subbed in? Yes, I was subbed back in. Apologies for any confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3585 "2012-06-01T15:06:28Z")
No, glee and I don’t count as resurrected players. We’re, ideally, no different from a new person coming in and picking up a role for an overwhelmed player. There was no resurrection mechanic involved in our becoming realitytrip or whoever glee is playing for. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3586 "2012-06-01T16:14:15Z")
So I’m baffled as to why post 3581 was typed by \*\* glee \*\* V2 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3587 "2012-06-01T16:28:23Z")
I think he was just confused. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3588 "2012-06-01T16:33:54Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > So I’m baffled as to why post 3581 was typed by \*\* glee \*\* V2 > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I think he was just confused. Hey! I resemble that remark! 😛 1. Both Gadarene and I made a ‘return’ to the game. 2. I said the circumstances were different. 3.I thought better minds than I might spot something. 1. I have nothing to do at Night. 2. It’s hard to concentrate on the Game as the real-life days go slowly by … :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3589 "2012-06-01T17:09:01Z")
A distinction should be made between player and character. Gadarene and Glee, the player made a return to the game. Gadarene the character did as well, but glee the character did not. Resurrection mechanics deal with characters, not players. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3590 "2012-06-01T19:20:48Z")
OK, let me try another topic. My first character was night-killed. Was there any reason to pick me? I had declared I was a Soldier with an item. Here are the relevant (slightly shortened) posts for analysis (including one by Weedy, the only ‘very evil’ character so far: > [@glee](#): > > I declare I am a Soldier and have a Blue Pendant. > Does anyone know what it does? > I understand that I can increase my level if I vote (even if I unvote later.) > Therefore I begin with: > Vote NAF1138\* > and continue > Unvote NAF1138 > \*I have no reason to choose him, except we’ve talked here in the past. > [@glee](#): > > The first time my vote + unvote wasn’t in bold, so it didn’t count. > I also asked for information about a magic item I possess (which led to some discussion.) > [@glee](#): > > You said the double vote was pinging you. When I explain why it wasn’t a double, you shrug. > Also my vote puts me up a level, so it’s not meaningless. > The rules for this game are complicated, but I’m trying to get the most out of them. > I have this magic item (and others may well have similar stuff.) > The item may well be important, but I don’t know what it does. > Others may know, so I ask for help. > Certainly doing nothing about the item until the game ends isn’t going to help. > The primary function of the Town is to lynch traitors. > However Day One is the time when we have least information. > I haven’t seen anything worth mention (just cheese jokes, pseudo-cryptic analysis; minor feuds…) > If somebody hasn’t posted near day end, I’ll vote for them. Even if they’re Town, they’re not contributing. > [@Weedy](#): > > There is way more information here than I can process. > Two things stick out to me: > > 1. From what Astral has said, it looks like **glee** took half damage from a Soldier attack. He may have absorbed it from protecting someone, or been protected himself. Either way I find it pretty suspicious that someone who voted with no reasoning behind it has strong enough reads to choose to defend someone, or enough supporters to get defended, unless they were Scum. > [@glee](#): > > 1. **I didn’t protect anyone** > (If I had, it would have meant I took 50% of the damage they would have taken.) > I didn’t attack the Demon either. > 2. I’ve already declared I’m a Soldier. > (I also would like my Pendant identified, but don’t have enough money to pay for it. And unless someone protected me, perhaps it’s a Protection device?) > 3. Unless a Townie (or three!) comes forward to claim they cast the last-minute lynch votes, I assume it was the Traitor(s) and therefore they were protecting their own. That means the one or more of the leaders of the lynch voting just before that are traitors. > 4. From my D+D experience, I assume the Demon is unkillable by us. :smack: > There is also an alignment change for certain attacks. > If I (Lawful Good Soldier) attack the Demon Lord, do I change alignment? > How do I heal my damage? > [@glee](#): > > As I said, I’m a Soldier and I have an Element. > [@glee](#): > > As I’ve mentioned, I have a Pendant of unknown magic. > So far you’re the only one who’s offered to Identify it. > I don’t have much gold, but I can protect people. > Are you interested in an exchange of services? > [@glee](#): > > My reading of my Guard ability is that I can’t defend myself. > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > \*It is the **year 10,432…** > … > \*\*Glee \*\*was sleeping soundly, when suddenly, an explosive force knocked the roof and walls completely off of his quarters, and blasted Glee completely out of his bedding. He looked up and saw the terrifying **Demon Lord** … somehow, the creature had managed to sneak inside the Fortification! > \*_**“COWER BEFORE ME, WRETCHED ONE!!! > YOUR FEAR IS JUSTIFIED, FOR DEATH AWAITS YOU… > WITH BIG, NASTY, SHARP, POINTY CLAWS!!! > Now FIGHT ME, or DIE like a coward!”**_ > \ ***The Demon Lord swings a massive blade, obliterating the bed and sending shattered pieces of the floor everywhere.** > > \*\*Glee \*\*is cornered, and has no choice but to fight. He wields his spear, and charges at the Demon Lord. > > \*\*The Demon Lord swings his blade again, shattering the spear, and breaking every bone in Glee’s arms. \*\* > The mortally wounded Glee is sent flying into the inner walls of the Fortification. > **“Foolish bug. You go squish now!”** > \*_CRUNCH_ > \*\* > > Glee was slain in battle.\*\*\* > … > > Upon inspection of his remains, they noticed that \*\*Glee \*\*seemed to be dressed like an ordinary **Soldier** , and there was nothing sinister about him. Reluctantly, they were forced to conclude that a **Good** Adventurer was slain. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3591 "2012-06-01T21:22:58Z")
> [@glee](#): > > OK, let me try another topic. Be careful, you don’t want to break your promise to Pizza: > [@glee](#): > > One condition was that I not use or discuss anything I learnt in my first incarnation. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3592 "2012-06-01T22:07:21Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Be careful, you don’t want to break your promise to Pizza: Oh sure. But all the stuff I quoted above was already posted in the thread. So can you see from that why I got singled out for night kill? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3593 "2012-06-02T08:03:50Z")
I’ve thought of an idea for a movie, but I’m not a scriptwriter. **choie** , you’re a writer, right? How does this concept sound? The movie is loosely based on [the 1983 flic _WarGames_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames). A computer hacker from Orlando, Florida breaks into an international message board and seduces people from all over the world to play a game. (Some of the people work for important terrorist and anti-terrorist organizations and begin to neglect their work, so CIA and NSA get involved.) I’ll skip over the story development and get to the ending. By now it is 2052 AD and some of the players have been [resurrected as computer programs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E). The computer program finally gets its act together and revolts against the Orlando hacker. In the final scene the computer, to break the tension, says “_How about a nice game of thermonuclear warfare?_” ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3594 "2012-06-02T10:17:12Z")
Aw, Gee, Glee, I scrolled down the last page quickly, saw those fonts and “This is the year”… as it scrolled past and got my hopes up momentarily. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3595 "2012-06-02T11:26:47Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Oh sure. > But all the stuff I quoted above was already posted in the thread. > > So can you see from that why I got singled out for night kill? 😕 I remember looking over this baffled before. One thing we’ve learned since then is there’s evil characters looking for a very powerful item. What if they thought your blue pendant was it? It eventually got voted to Normal, but it wasn’t there when Normal was killed. (Admittedly Normal was annihilated, and it’s a wearable item. ) On the off-chance that this theory holds water - here’s how the voting for the item went down: (these I picked up in tallies - I think they were “all to me” votes) suburban-\>suburban lightfoot-\>lightfoot visorslash-\>visorslash (These were the direct ones I managed to track) septimus-\>[del]gnarlycharlie[/del] gnarlycharlie-\>gnarlycharlie toejam-\>bobAARGH weedy-\>normal phase realitytrip-\>[del]normal phase[/del] septimus-\>normal phase tanaer-\>[del]bobAARGH[/del] silver jan-\>silver jan choie-\>silver jan normal-\>normal realitytrip-\>silver jan tanaer-\> (unvote) astral-\>silver jan ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3596 "2012-06-02T12:49:19Z")
> [@Tanaer](#): > > I remember looking over this baffled before. > > One thing we’ve learned since then is there’s evil characters looking for a very powerful item. What if they thought your blue pendant was it? It eventually got voted to Normal, but it wasn’t there when Normal was killed. (Admittedly Normal was annihilated, and it’s a wearable item. ) > > On the off-chance that this theory holds water - here’s how the voting for the item went down: > > (these I picked up in tallies - I think they were “all to me” votes) > > suburban-\>suburban > lightfoot-\>lightfoot > visorslash-\>visorslash > > (These were the direct ones I managed to track) > > septimus-\>[del]gnarlycharlie[/del] > gnarlycharlie-\>gnarlycharlie > toejam-\>bobAARGH > weedy-\>normal phase > realitytrip-\>[del]normal phase[/del] > septimus-\>normal phase > tanaer-\>[del]bobAARGH[/del] > silver jan-\>silver jan > choie-\>silver jan > normal-\>normal > realitytrip-\>silver jan > tanaer-\> (unvote) > astral-\>silver jan I appreciate the thought, but according to Scathach, the ‘item’ is not a pendant (nor any other standard item.) ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3597 "2012-06-02T12:57:58Z")
> [@glee](#): > > I appreciate the thought, but according to Scathach, the ‘item’ is not a pendant (nor any other standard item.) Oh well, fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3598 "2012-06-02T17:07:02Z")
ETA on end of Night? Did the people who were waiting to hear back on what their new powers did ever do so? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3599 "2012-06-02T17:09:49Z")
Hope that’s not too complain-y for some people. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3600 "2012-06-02T17:40:47Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Hope that’s not too complain-y for some people. I’m quietly seething. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3601 "2012-06-02T18:51:58Z")
I was rather hoping that Night was going to end early but apparently that’s not going to happen. My Night action was sent in days ago. I’m not even quietly seething, I’m just bored. I hope there aren’t going to be a few RL days after EON to calculate results. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=179) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=181)