# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 185
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3682 "2012-06-03T22:54:01Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Mostly process of elimination. > > But I feel decently about it. > > 🙂 But you are voting for Lightfoot??? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3683 "2012-06-03T23:03:26Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > **Unvote Inner Stickler** > > **Vote LightFoot** > > mostly process of elimination, but I feel decently about it > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > May I ask why? > [@Gadarene](#): > > Mostly process of elimination. > > But I feel decently about it. > > 🙂 > [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > But you are voting for Lightfoot??? Yeah, that’s who I was talking about. I’ll be happy with an Inner wagon as well. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3684 "2012-06-03T23:12:00Z")
Mhmm I don’t think I could vote for **LightFoot** , she’s my mate and I think she is Towwn ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3685 "2012-06-03T23:14:17Z")
Killing me won’t advance Town’s win condition. Pizza said this is the last Day so it may not make any difference. I am Town but you don’t have to believe that I suppose. for the record I did share all my investigations c’est la the game has lost momentum any who I’m tempted to vote you Gad for your logic/ lack of but I have a Town lean on you… I’ll return later- off to dinner at man friend’s mom’s ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3686 "2012-06-03T23:21:56Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Huh? What was this about? . I thought Weedy was scum, didn’t the rest of Town think this? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3687 "2012-06-03T23:27:26Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Killing me won’t advance Town’s win condition. Pizza said this is the last Day so it may not make any difference. > I am Town but you don’t have to believe that I suppose. > for the record I did share all my investigations > > c’est la > the game has lost momentum any who > > I’m tempted to vote you Gad for your logic/ lack of but I have a Town lean on you.. > > I’ll return later- off to dinner at man friend’s mom’s I feel foolish. not a nice feeling ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3688 "2012-06-03T23:39:50Z")
That seems pretty genuine I can hop back on Inner ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3689 "2012-06-04T05:19:13Z")
Today is the Full Moon of the Eighth Lunar Month. Thus we celebrate the Birth, the Enlightenment and the Passing away of the Lord Buddha since _all three_ events miraculously happened on this same day. I mention this just to point out that schools are closed today in Thailand, so I have two kids clamoring for the computer to play Facebook and on-line games. I won’t be able to study the game with computer until they’re in bed, many hours from now. But I still don’t know who Scum are. We now know Town can get Illusory Death Reveals of Scum. Did Scum get Illusory Death Reveal of Town? Did long delays in the game correspond with Gadarene’s trip to Turkey – Pizza had to wait for PM’s? But if Gadarene is Scum he deserves to win the game, along with an Academy Award for Acting. The same can be said for Silver Jan, Guiri, and probably LightFoot and Choie. I lean non-Scum on Inner and perhaps Astral. Thus my worry about Tanaer is based mainly on process of elimination. But what about **Septimus** myself? I herewith come clean. I started the game as a Good but Chaotic Mage. I forgot to Attack Day 1, but after that I Attacked every chance I could (until last Night when I self-protected). Since I was already Chaotic, Pizza told me I needed to change Moral Alignment to keep advancing along the Black Mage path. Like Darth Vader, I succumbed to the _Power of the Dark Side_. 😉 :smack: I became Neutral Black Mage with a Neutral Wincon: Survive and win if Town wins OR Win with most wealth. (Since I had no chance to accumulate wealth, this was clearly worse than the Town win-con … but I was already captive to the Dark Force! 😃 ) Later I became an Evil Sorcerer with a new Wincon, but that Win-con was still clearly marked as “Neutral” and I had no knowledge of, or alignment with, any Scum team. By then I knew that “Evil” and “Very Evil” meant two completely different things in this game. In my Neutral but Evil win-con, I win if I survive. There is an alternate way to win, about which Pizza has _only_ told me that the first step is to obtain a certain object. I know nothing about that object except its name, and that whoever possesses it knows it has great value. Since the best way for me to survive is if Town wins by eliminating Scum, I am playing as though aligned with Town. I’d hoped that the possessor of the mysterious object would Die, the object would be up for bid, the Evil and Very Evil would reveal themselves in their frenzy to get that object, and that I could then do Town a service by revealing what I know. And now you know all that I know (except the name of the object, and the Powers of Black Mage, Sorcerer and Shaman – I revoked my Shaman request, BTW, and am still Sorcerer). Lynch me if you wish – but it will be a MisLynch and lead to Scum victory. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3690 "2012-06-04T13:37:05Z")
Septimus, is this a joke? You’re claiming evil scumbag? You say you’ll win if you survive, do you win with any team or just town? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3691 "2012-06-04T14:03:53Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Septimus, is this a joke? You’re claiming evil scumbag? > > You say you’ll win if you survive, do you win with any team or just town? My claiming may be stupid, but it’s honest. Changing moral alignment was a requirement to get the awesome powers of Sorcerer; but please note that _none_ of my Attacks as Sorcerer have been against Good players. All my targets flipped Neutral or Evil 3rd Party. Admittedly I’ve yet to Attack or help Lynch a Scum, but the same can be said for all of us. (I thought it would be fun to be Sorcerer, but my sole demonstration of Awesome Power – the 600hp hit on Scathach – passed almost unnoticed since it registered in an erratum. :smack: ) As Black Mage (Neutral Moral, Neutral Game) my win-condition required that I survive AND that Town win. Sorcerer is Evil Moral, but still Game Alignment = Neutral and requires only that I survive. So I’ve “won” the Game, unless someone kills me, but we’re not playing for fame or fortune, so I’m still aligned with Town “in my heart.” I outed myself to help. Players expressed suspicion at Inner because he claims to be unTrackable. I am also unTrackable and unWatchable. If Inner is as me, he may be “Evil” but not Very Evil Scum. As to who is the real Scum? I don’t know. **Tanaer** is my best guess, but it’s a half-hearted guess and I’d not be overly surprised to see one of our “nearly-certain-to-be-Townies” flip as the Very Evil One. Or perhaps none of us is Scum: that this has indeed been like the Milgram Study and we were supposed to be attacking PizzaGuy all along. If it’s all too unbelievable, and you choose to Lynch me … fine. But I am telling the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3692 "2012-06-04T15:10:22Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > My claiming may be stupid, but it’s honest. Changing moral alignment was a requirement to get the awesome powers of Sorcerer; but please note that _none_ of my Attacks as Sorcerer have been against Good players. All my targets flipped Neutral or Evil 3rd Party. Admittedly I’ve yet to Attack or help Lynch a Scum, but the same can be said for all of us. I don’t understand how this is evidence of your pro-towniness. If you’re not scum, you couldn’t have known their alignment prior to attacking them. You lucked out in a way entirely indistinguishable from PIS. In any event, I’m willing to trust you for now, although I reserve the right to lynch you if I decide that’s where my suspicions ultimately lie. Building real cases would do a lot to sway me. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3693 "2012-06-04T15:21:41Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I don’t understand how this is evidence of your pro-towniness. If you’re not scum, you couldn’t have known their alignment prior to attacking them. You lucked out in a way entirely indistinguishable from PIS. You assume that Townies and 3rd Parties behave indistinguishably. The fact is: that’s not always true. I’ve not “lucked out” by Attacking and Lynching 3rd Parties rather than Townies, any more than the rest of us have lately. In fact, to the contrary, I Attacked, or voted to Lynch Charlie, Visorslash, and Fubbles after they’d declared themselves “Neutral” (3rd party). If I were playing pro-Scum, might i not have adopted a “Don’t waste kills on 3rd-party” stance? As implied in my earlier post, you’re #2 on my suspect list behind Tanaer. Your latest post moves you closer to #1. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3694 "2012-06-04T16:04:36Z")
Would you vote me just to make a statement again? > [@septimus](#): > > But why is that? We’ve not done so badly with three of our fallen Townsmen (Astral, guiri, and now Gadarene) resurrected with white glow. > > But this is the same “white glow” that killed **Normal Phase**. > > To me, the clues point to the theme that the new incarnations of Astral, guiri and Gadarene are Scum recruits. We should spend a Lynch to confirm this theory: > > **Vote: Astral Rejection** > > I pick Astral because his claim (that he ws offered Neutral moral alignment without change to win-con) contradicts all the other information we’ve had but would be expected from someone whose win-condition had already changed at the time of his resurrection. > [@septimus](#): > > Rambling comments: > > If/when we do our claims, let’s do pick a player (Guiri if you dislike my suggestion of LightFoot) and PM info to him/her rather than posting publicly. This will maximize problems for Scum. (Unless we accidentally pick Scum to receive PM’s.) Note that using secret PM’s and adopting a claiming order are not exclusive: we can do both for greatest caution. > > Should reveals be complete? Roles, objects, etc. as well as actions? > > In the recent writeup there may be an implication that all depends on a single remaining Very Evil player. (I realize this is contrary to the recruited resurrectee theory.) > > But who is the scum? There are fourteen living players; if we set aside the resurrected Townies and Pizza himself, ten are left. Some of these players are inactive. Post-count is an extremely crude measure of activity, but it’s a start. I ranked the players by number of posts on or after 15 May (my time): > > choie – 45 > Lightfoot – 21 > Tanaer – 21 > septimus – 18 > Silver Jan – 17 > [del]Lilflower[/del] Glee – 9 > [del]RealityTrip[/del] Inner Stickler – 8 > Scathach – 4 > storyteller0910 – 4 > Fubbleskag – 0 > > At some point, a player’s activity is so low that it’s considered a moral victory by Town, if that player turns out to be the Scum. Scathach, story and fubbs are almost in that category. Glee and Inner’s posts have been relatively fluffy, so we’re left with five active non-resurrected players to choose from. > > I know I’m not Scum; I have strong Town reads on Lightfoot, Tanaer, and (probably) choie. This leaves me with Silver Jan to suspect by elimination. > > I’m sure a lot of the game is going on behind the scenes. I have relatively few “penpals”; the one brief exchange I had with Silver Jan seemed suspicious to me. What do others think? My vote for Astral was intended more as a statement than a serious Lynch attempt. Let me make another statement: > > **Unvote; Vote: Silver Jan** > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Oh? > > You built a case on me, supported it with evidence from the color, accused me of “slipping” from my scummy mcscummerson PM, impugned two other players with me, made a show of why you “picked” me instead of them, and told town you’d like to **confirm** , not test, this hypothesis by lynching me. > > What statement were you trying to make beyond “we should lynch Astral Rejection,” and why are you now seriously backing away from your suggestion when it caught no traction? > [@septimus](#): > > You assume that Townies and 3rd Parties behave indistinguishably. The fact is: that’s not always true. I’ve not “lucked out” by Attacking and Lynching 3rd Parties rather than Townies, any more than the rest of us have lately. > > In fact, to the contrary, I Attacked, or voted to Lynch Charlie, Visorslash, and Fubbles after they’d declared themselves “Neutral” (3rd party). If I were playing pro-Scum, might i not have adopted a “Don’t waste kills on 3rd-party” stance? > > As implied in my earlier post, you’re #2 on my suspect list behind Tanaer. Your latest post moves you closer to #1. Sorry for the sloppy quoting, this is difficult on my phone. In your first quote, you say Guiri, Gad, and I are likely scum. You want to lynch me. In your second quote, you think Silver Jan is scum, say you were voting me just to make a statement, and suggest we trust Guiri, one of your scum suspicions from the previous quote, with the PMs. My third quote is just a repost of how ridiculous your “I was just voting Astral as a statement” is. And lastly, you want to vote me again (I assume for the same reasons that led to your “just a statement” vote), or Tanaer, your previous “strong town lean.” You’re inconsistent as all get out. This is not how you convince me not to vote for you. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3695 "2012-06-04T21:01:08Z")
SilverJan, via PM you informed me of you actions, summarized as “Days mostly attacking Lord Phere when I remembered but at Night I was protecting”, given Gadarene’s correction, there’s just 1 single attack on Lord Phere that could be attributed to you. Please clarify. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3696 "2012-06-04T21:03:15Z")
Oh, if any player is able to switch their alignment, I’ll willing to bet it was Astral. And metagaming, I’m intrigued by Pizza’s warning about dead players posting, as far as I can tell on Visorslash posted about choie. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3697 "2012-06-04T23:09:35Z")
This probably goes without saying, but… Could those of you who implicitly trust people because of information you’ve revealed to them _please_ have a think about what they might have gained by having you alive & trusting instead, and re-evaluate? Likewise with info receivers, re veracity, etc. Just so we’re clear as we move onto what may be our final vote. I’m just a bit worried our mastermind is hiding in plain sight. Pizza implied at the beginning that there were at least two scum - the mastermind and the summoner(s). The mastermind will have very strong town cover. It could have been misdirection, and there may have been only one. Can we assume that the ultimate power is the item controlling Phere? It seems very likely to me that lynching the person with the item is our goal. I imagine Phere would destroy the item, which would free the king, and nullify the evil players’ goal in one fell swoop. {Someone said it’s not a normal item, which I take to mean not listed in inventories of the dead, etc. Did I miss Pizza stating this somewhere?} ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3698 "2012-06-05T01:04:36Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Oh, if any player is able to switch their alignment, I’ll willing to bet it was Astral. That’s the kind of remark you would definitely ask: Can you please elaborate on this? So I’m asking you: Can you please elaborate on this? 🙂 > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > And metagaming, I’m intrigued by Pizza’s warning about dead players posting, as far as I can tell on Visorslash posted about choie. Hey, I’ll say flat out that I wrote to **pizza** and complained about scummy **Visorslash** ’s multiple post-mortem meta posts, after the second one after he snuggled up to **Gadarene** to insult me. Far as I’m aware, the proper way for dead scum (or Townies, for that matter) to participate in Mafia game threads is… they _don’t_. Ruins the suspension of disbelief and is also just not, well, cricket. Plus, in a game like this where it appears multiple baddies are working separately rather than together, I think a spoiled scum is even more dangerous dead than alive, if s/he wanted to pass messages along to likeminded villains. This game’s different in that there are resurrections and zombifications, but **Visorslash** doesn’t appear to fall within either category. So yup, I complained about the petty high-fiving cracks against me. If that makes me a petty tattle-tale, WTF, most people don’t like me anyway, so what do I care? > [@Tanaer](#): > > This probably goes without saying, but.. > Could those of you who implicitly trust people because of information you’ve revealed to them _please_ have a think about what they might have gained by having you alive & trusting instead, and re-evaluate? Likewise with info receivers, re veracity, etc. Just so we’re clear as we move onto what may be our final vote. > > I’m just a bit worried our mastermind is hiding in plain sight. Hey, there are only nine of us left. Of _course_ he or she is hiding in plain sight! 🙂 But seriously, I understand what you’re saying, and it’s good advice. Still, I’m genuinely convinced that there is a very good likelihood–no, I’ll say _certainty_–that I would have been NKed (or day-attacked/killed) long ago if the people I trust were not, well, trustworthy. More important than the fact of my own death is that a not-insignificant number of Townspeople would’ve also been dead, and the game would be over. On a different note, frankly I find it fascinating and highly scummalicious that every time I mention **PetW** and his _utterly unique_ reveal, someone changes the subject and no one seems even willing to consider this topic. In fact none of my theories are ever discussed. I suppose it’s quite likely I just suck at theorizing, and also, see above about the fact that I’m obnoxious and disliked (but hey, so was John Adams which puts me in good company). But other people’s wacko ideas are entertained, why am I the town Cassandra? Remember your mythology, people: ol’ Cassie was _right_. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3699 "2012-06-05T01:07:25Z")
I say we should just full-claim. We’re at lynch or lose, supposedly, so what could it hurt? It would finally be obvious to people why you trust us, Choie. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3700 "2012-06-05T01:22:14Z")
Possibly, but I can easily imagine claims making it very easy for Scum to manipulate votes. Are we _certain_ we’re at LyLo? BTW I have to say that if it turns out **septimus** – the guy I voted in the _pre-game_ period – really \*was \*the evil mastermind all along, I will probably have a conniption fit and die of apoplexy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3701 "2012-06-05T01:36:16Z")
**Day 1** GuiriEnEspana vf Astral Rejection, 57 Normal Phase vf Mosier, 65 Choie vf Septimus, 68 Visorslash vf Normal Phase, 70 Astral Rejection vf Choie, 78 Gadarene vf Astral Rejection, 83 NAF1138 vf Gadarene, 91 Weedy vf Visorslash, 94 Silver Jan vf Visorslash, 95 [del]Visorslash unvote Normal Phase[/del], vf Weedy, 102 Glee vf NAF1138, [del]unvote NAF1138[/del], 114 (this vote does not count) Mosier vf Visorslash, 117 ToeJam vf Gadarene, 120 Mahaloth vf Visorslash, 124 Septimus vf Visorslash, 132 [del]Choie unvote Septimus[/del], vf Gadarene, 152 Glee vf NAF1138, [del]unvote NAF1138[/del], 157 [del]Astral Rejection unvote Choie, 169[/del] gnarlycharlie vf Silver Jan, 176 [del]Weedy unvote Visorslash[/del], vf Septimus, 184 Astral Rejection vf MHaye, 186 PetW vf Visorslash, 188 (this vote does not count) PetW vf Visorslash, 190 Inner Stickler vf Gadarene, 197 [del]gnarlycharlie unvote Silver Jan, 212[/del] [del]Visorslash unvote Weedy[/del], vf Gadarene, 236 Lightfoot vf Mosier, 237 [del]Astral Rejection unvote MHaye[/del], vote Gadarene, 275 [del]Astral Rejection unvote Gadarene[/del], vote MHaye, 277 BobArrgh vf Gadarene, 307 Suburban Plankton vf Mosier, 308 gnarlycharlie vf Mosier, 313 [del]Septimus unvote Visorslash[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 317 MHaye vf Silver Jan, 321 Scathach vf Lightfoot, 329 [del]MHaye unvote Silver Jan[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 331 realitytrip (now Inner Stickler) vf Mahaloth, 338 [del]Choie unvote Gadarene[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 341 lilflower (now glee) vf Gadarene, 351 Lynch: Mosier, good soldier Nightkill: glee, good soldier Nightkill: Inner Stickler, good soldier **Day 2** Choie vf fubbleskag, 811 Suburban Plankton vf Gadarene, 813 Astral Rejection vf MHaye, 814 Visorslash vf Gadarene, 824 Normal Phase vf MHaye, 825 [del]Normal Phase unvote MHaye[/del], vf PetW, 838 NAF1138 vf **abstain** , 844 Septimus vf **present** , 870 Gadarene vf PetW, 871 gnarlycharlie vf PetW, 886 Silver Jan vf PetW, 902 [del]Normal Phase unvote PetW[/del], vf MHaye, 904 ToeJam vf Septimus, 932 Red Skeezix vf PetW, 964 fubbleskag vf Gadarene, 967 [del]ToeJam unvote Septimus[/del], vf fubbleskag, 977 [del]Red Skeezix unvote PetW[/del], vf Weedy, 995 [del]gnarlycharlie unvote PetW, 1024[/del] [del]Normal Phase unvote MHaye[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 1035 [del]Silver Jan unvote PetW, 1038[/del] Weedy vf MHaye, 1040 gnarlycharlie vf Weedy, 1041 [del]Gadarene unvote PetW[/del], vf Visorslash, 1051 Silver Jan vf Visorslash, 1071 Lightfoot vf Scathach, 1139 [del]Septimus unvote **present,** [/del] vf Astral Rejection, 1141 [del]Silver Jan unvote Visorslash, 1145[/del] [del]Visorslash unvote Gadarene[/del], vf Choie, 1194 [del]Gadarene unvote Visorslash[/del], vf Suburban Plankton, 1195 [del]Visorslash unvote Choie[/del], vf Gadarene, 1200 Silver Jan vf Astral Rejection, 1202 [del]Visorslash unvote Gadarene[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 1203 [del]Normal Phase unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf PetW, 1213 GuiriEnEspana vf Astral Rejection, 1218 Weedy vf Astral Rejection, 1219 [del]Choie unvote fubbleskag,[/del] vf Astral Rejection, 1229 Tanaer vf Astral Rejection, 1231 [del]ToeJam unvote fubbleskag[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 1234 BobArrgh vf Believerer, 1279 MHaye vf Gadarene, 1281 realitytrip (now Inner Stickler) vf Normal Phase, 1303 (this vote does not count) [del]Weedy unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf MHaye, 1317 [del]septimus unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf BobArrgh, 1332 Scathach vf Tanaer, 1339 [del]Gadarene unvote Suburban Plankton[/del], vf NAF1138, 1344 [del]Tanaer unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf Choie, 1345 [del]Gadarene unvote NAF1138[/del], vf Suburban Plankton, 1362 [del]Normal Phase unvote PetW[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 1368 [del]Septimus unvote BobArrgh[/del], vf Suburban Plankton, 1381 [del]Septimus unvote Suburban Plankton[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 1405 [del]Choie unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf Normal Phase, 1411 [del]Astral Rejection unvote MHaye[/del], vf Normal Phase, 1414 MHaye vf Astral Rejection, 1449 [del]Weedy unvote MHaye[/del], vf Astral Rejection, 1457 [del]Gadarene unvote Suburban Plankton[/del], vf Weedy, 1461 Lynch result: Astral Rejection, good archer Night Kill: GuiriEnEspana, good white mage Resurrections: Astral Rejection, Mosier **Day 3** Astral Rejection vf Normal Phase, 1774 Gadarene vf Believerer, 1783 Visorslash vf Choie, 1786 Scathach vf Choie, 1801 [del]Astral Rejection unvote Normal Phase[/del], vf Silver Jan, 1873 [del]Scathach unvote Choie[/del], vf BobArrgh, 1877 Believerer vf BobArrgh, 1886 Suburban Plankton vf Believerer, 1892 Septimus vf BobArrgh, 1895 [del]Septimus unvote BobArrgh[/del], vf **abstain** , 1899 storyteller0910 vf NAF1138, [del]unvote NAF1138, 1912[/del] (this vote does not count) ToeJam vf NAF1138, 1934 [del]Visorslash unvote Choie[/del], vf ToeJam, 1937 Weedy vf MHaye, 1948 Tanaer vf Mosier, 1956 (this vote does not count) Choie vf Gadarene, 1966 [del]Septimus unvote **abstain** [/del], vf realitytrip (now Inner Stickler), 1980 Lightfoot vf gnarlycharlie, 1987 Tanaer vf Mosier, [del]unvote Mosier, 2008[/del] Normal Phase vf PetW, 2040 [del]Weedy unvote MHaye[/del], vf ToeJam, 2048 [del]Normal Phase unvote PetW[/del], vf MHaye, 2050 [del]Believerer unvote BobArrgh[/del], vf Suburban Plankton, 2065 [del]Septimus unvote realitytrip (now Inner Stickler)[/del], vf ToeJam, 2097 gnarlycharlie vf MHaye, 2099 BobArrgh vf NAF1138, 2100 [del]Astral Rejection unvote Silver Jan[/del], vf MHaye, 2109 [del]Normal Phase unvote MHaye[/del], vf ToeJam, 2130 Lynch result: Toejam, neutral thief Night Kill: Weedy, [del]very evil[/del] good white mage Resurrection: GuiriEnEspana **Day 4** Gadarene vf Beleiever, 2289 Normal Phase vf Lightfoot, 2328 [del]Normal Phase unvote Lightfoot, 2346[/del] Silver Jan vf Tanaer, 2394 BobArrgh vf Tanaer, 2398 Choie vf Visorslash, 2402 Visorslash vf realitytrip (now Inner Stickler), 2409 Mosier vf Suburban Plankton, 2415 [del]Gadarene unvote Believerer[/del], vf Visorslash, 2434 [del]Silver Jan unvote Tanaer[/del], vf Visorslash, 2438 [del]Silver Jan unvote Visorslash[/del], vf gnarlycharlie, 2445 Septimus vf Mosier, 2454 Astral Rejection vf Silver Jan, 2456 [del]Gadarene unvote Visorslash[/del], vf Suburban Plankton, 2463 Lightfoot vf gnarlycharlie, 2474 Suburban Plankton vf Silver Jan, 2482 GuiriEnEspana vf Scathach, 2488 Normal Phase vf MHaye, 2493 Tanaer vf Normal Phase, 2498 [del]Gadarene unvote Suburban Plankton[/del], vf Visorslash, 2504 [del]Astral Rejection unvote Silver Jan[/del], vf MHaye, 2508 [del]Mosier unvote Suburban Plankton[/del], vf Visorslash, 2509 [del]Tanaer unvote Normal Phase[/del], vf Suburban Plankton, 2510 Septimus vf Scathach, 2511 gnarlycharlie vf Silver Jan, 2515 [del]Gadarene unvote Visorslash[/del], vf Suburban Plankton, 2516 [del]Choie unvote Visorslash[/del], vf Normal Phase, 2518 [del]Silver Jan unvote gnarlycharlie[/del], vf MHaye, 2531 [del]Gadarene unvote Suburban Plankton[/del], vf MHaye, 2534 MHaye vf Silver Jan, 2536 Lynch result: MHaye, good black mage Night kill: Gadarene, good ranger Night kill: BobArrgh, good dragon slayer Night kill: PetW, no data Night kill: Mahaloth, good mage **Day 5** GuiriEnEspana vf Scathach, 2803 Normal Phase vf Scathach, 2804 Scathach vf GuiriEnEspana, 2806 [del]Normal Phase unvote Scathach,[/del] vf Tanaer, 2807 Visorslash vf Normal Phase, 2821 Mosier vf Visorslash, 2823 Septimus vf Visorslash, 2830 Silver Jan vf Visorslash, 2850 Tanaer vf Suburban Plankton, 2853 [del]Silver Jan unvote Visorslash,[/del] vf gnarlycharlie, 2890 [del]Visorslash unvote Normal Phase,[/del] vf gnarlycharlie, 2891 Astral Rejection vf gnarlycharlie, 2903 storyteller0910 vf Suburban Plankton, 2905 Inner Stickler (as realitytrip) vf gnarlycharlie, 2914 Choie vf Mosier, 2961 [del]Astral Rejection unvote gnarlycharlie,[/del] vf Mosier, 2980 [del]Visorslash unvote gnarlycharlie,[/del] vf Mosier, 2981 LightFoot vf gnarlycharlie, 2985 glee (as lilflower) vf gnarlycharlie, 2991 Tanaer vf Mosier, 3002 [del]Normal Phase unvote Tanaer,[/del] vf gnarlycharlie, 3022 [del]GuiriEnEspana unvote Scathach,[/del] vf gnarlycharlie, 3032 [del]Normal Phase unvote gnarlycharlie,[/del] vf Mosier, 3033 [del]GuiriEnEspana unvote gnarlycharlie,[/del] vf Mosier, 3028 [del]Silver Jan unvote gnarlycharlie,[/del] vf Moiser, 3041 Lynch result: Mosier, good knight Day kill: gnarlycharlie, neutral assassin (Scathach goes evil) Wrath of Mod: Believer (good cleric), NAF1138 (good soldier), and Red Skeezix (good mage of light) Night-but-also-day kill: Suburban Plankton, good ninja Night kill: Visorslash, evil knight. Night kill: Normal Phase, good White Knight. Resurrection: Gadarene **Day 6** GuiriEnEspana vf Scathach, 3242 Choie vf fubbleskag, 3245 Silver Jan vf fubbleskag, 3248 Septimus vf Astral Rejection, 3254 [del]Septimus unvote Astral Rejection,[/del] vf Silver Jan, 3264 [del]Septimus unvote Silver Jan,[/del] vf Astral Rejection, 3266 glee (as lilflower) vf fubbleskag, 3279 (this vote does not count) glee (as lilflower) vf fubbleskag, 3286 Septimus vf fubbleskag, 3289 (this vote does not count) Septimus vf fubbleskag, 3291 [del]Silver Jan unvote fubbleskag,[/del] vf Septimus, 3296 [del]Silver Jan unvote Septimus, 3307[/del] [del]Choie unvote fubbleskag,[/del] vf Inner Stickler (as realitytrip), 3340 Inner Stickler (as realitytrip) vf Scathach, 3348 Scathach vf Tanaer, 3381 [del]Choie unvote Inner Stickler,[/del] vf Scathach, 3393 LightFoot vf Scathach, 3398 Astral Rejection vf Scathach, 3400 (this vote does not count) Astral Rejection vf Scathach, 3406 Silver Jan vf Scathach, 3407 glee (as lilflower) unvote fubbleskag, vf Scathach, 3412 Tanaer vf Scathach, 3418 Lynch: Scathach, evil Templar Knight Night kill: fubbleskag, neutral Mage Night kill: glee (as lilflower), good White Knight Night kill: storyteller0910, evil Mage [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=184) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=186)