# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 193
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3842 "2012-06-06T19:47:05Z")
Well it looks as if I won’t get a response before I retire for the night so I will \*\*Unvote Vote Septimus\*\* He tried to convince everyone that “evil” and “very evil” are totally different, well we know that now, “very evil” was actually “good” so I am not convinced that “evil” is good too. I know he said he was neutral but I am not convinced that he is on towns side. Hope that made sense, I am really tired at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3843 "2012-06-06T20:15:38Z")
Tentative vote count. I don’t know if there are any new double voters who aren’t speaking up, but here goes. Sorry for any mistakes. The unvotes are only listed since the last tally, btw. I used **MHaye** ’s count for a basis. **septimus** (8): **Tanaer** (3,618), **Gadarene** (3,747) **choie** (3,789), **Guiri x 2** (3,817), **Inner Sticker** (3,821), **Astral Rejection** (3,839), **Silver Jan** (3,841) **Silver Jan** (1): [del] **Guiri** (3,784) (3,796)[/del], [del] **LightFoot** (3,788) (3,810)[/del], **septimus** (3,831) **Inner Stickler** (1): [del] **Silver Jan** (3,676)[/del], **LightFoot** (3,810) **Astral Rejection** (0): [del] **septimus** (3,771) (3,814)[/del] **LightFoot** (0): [del] **Guiri** (3,796) (3,817)[/del], [del] **septimus** (3,814) (3,831)[/del] ITEMS: (there were no changes as far as I found since **MHaye** ’s tally) Diamond Pendant **Gadarene** (2): **choie** (3627), **Silver Jan** (3,634) Emerald Sceptre **Silver Jan** (2): **choie** (3627),\*\* Silver Jan\*\* (3,634) Green Sceptre **Astral Rejection** (2): **choie** (3627), **Silver Jan** (3,634) Obsidian Ring **choie** (2): **choie** (3627), **Silver Jan** (3,634) Teal Harp **Tanaer** (1): **choie** (3,627) **LightFoot** (1): **Silver Jan** (3,634) Whew. Again, forgive any errors. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3844 "2012-06-06T20:35:13Z")
Thanks Choie! Septimus is looking pretty lynched at this point, and the lynch is safe from the 3-voter. **Pizza, when you get a chance, can you give us an idea when we’ll get the lynch results?** ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3845 "2012-06-06T21:49:29Z")
Are we at lynch already - I thought it was an hour later today (another 6). I was thinking of moving my vote - I’m not that happy on the “neutrals” but it’s way too late for anything else. I suppose I might still put a vote in for that harp,though? If EOD hasn’t happened. Not that it will make a difference in the end **Teal Harp: Tanaer** I still suspect the mastermind to be some “confirmed” townie though. Choie, most like, or Guiri? I don’t have any reason or cases (except Weedy’s early case on Choie) or, of that matter, time. So things will just be how they are. Septimus was acting pretty scummily earlier after his reveal. Nerves could do that, after taking such a bold move, though. (sigh). Good game though, scum. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3846 "2012-06-06T21:52:18Z")
No, lynch is at 6, so you’re in time. _Or are you? As apparently I’m the evil mastermind, I would say that, just to screw with your mind._… ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3847 "2012-06-06T21:53:55Z")
Who do you suggest, Gad? I’d love to move. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3848 "2012-06-06T21:54:58Z")
> [@choie](#): > > No, lynch is at 6, so you’re in time. > > _Or are you? As apparently I’m the evil mastermind, I would say that, just to screw with your mind._… 🙂 You mess with my mind all the time, Choie. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3849 "2012-06-06T21:58:12Z")
> [@Tanaer](#): > > Who do you suggest, Gad? > I’d love to move. Who exactly do you expect Gad to advise you to move to? Gad is also voting for Septimus. ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3850 "2012-06-06T22:00:21Z")
No idea. There’s no chance of a wagon forming this late anyway. I just think Septimus is probably the victim of “omg we don’t want to be the ones that let him get away with that”, just in case. Gadarene just said we needed better wagons. I wondered if he had one in mind ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3851 "2012-06-06T22:02:50Z")
> [@choie](#): > > No, lynch is at 6, so you’re in time. I just realized that was very Eastern-US-centric of me. Day ends\* at 6PM ET (GMT-5). - Or I should say ‘ended’, hee. And _literally_ as I’m typing this, I’m listening to _Abbey Road_, and they’re singing: _And in the end The love you take is equal to the love you make._ Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3852 "2012-06-06T22:12:19Z")
> [@Tanaer](#): > > No idea. There’s no chance of a wagon forming this late anyway. I just think Septimus is probably the victim of “omg we don’t want to be the ones that let him get away with that”, just in case. This is such an interesting thing to say. You were the very first one to vote for him Today; you had all Day to change that vote. And despite your mistrust of me, you didn’t vote for me at all.\* What’s your thinking on this? We might as well chat. We probably have a wait here for the results. 🙂 - Be honest. It was because I voted you the Teal Harp, right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3853 "2012-06-06T22:36:32Z")
> [@choie](#): > > This is such an interesting thing to say. You were the very first one to vote for him Today; you had all Day to change that vote. And despite your mistrust of me, you didn’t vote for me at all.\* What’s your thinking on this? > > We might as well chat. We probably have a wait here for the results. 🙂 > > - Be honest. It was because I voted you the Teal Harp, right? 😃 I haven’t been dishonest here yet, Choie. Probably too honest, rather. I have never really had time for this game. Even the amount I’ve participated in the last couple of Days has severely negatively impacted my schoolwork. Weedy made a case on you, with all the things I told her and other stuff she ran with. After she was branded scum, I couldn’t reiterate that, and didn’t have time to build a separate one. Best I could do was remind people from time to time. I didn’t vote for you (I thought I did have a vote on you a couple of times, but not end vote - perhaps my memory’s going) because there was this 3 voter pressure to make the votes count. That thing sucked. Your technique is very effective. Bullying, in a way. You deter people - me, anyway - with your well-honed barbs, and when they don’t deter, they deflect content into interpersonal rivalry. I don’t want to attract your barbs. I don’t want your lectures about how you think I should behave in a different way. Oddly, I like you. But I am fighting depression right now and it doesn’t do me any favours to add Choie stings to the mix. If that’s not gamey enough for you then so be it. I’m a human first. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3854 "2012-06-06T22:57:09Z")
Wow. I suck. I’m sorry. To everyone I’ve made uncomfortable or bullied or just generally sucked the fun out of the game, I apologize. I thought I was just doing what was necessary to survive considering my vulnerability. Offense being the best defense, as it were. I remember you PMed me and said you liked my style and enjoyed playing with me. I guess something obviously changed, maybe I got more obnoxious as endgame neared. I know depression very very intimately, and I would never knowingly trigger anything like that in someone else who suffers from it. And bang, there goes the enjoyment and pleasure I’ve felt in the game, especially now, like a popped balloon. (That’s how depression works, as you know. Doesn’t take much to deflate what’s almost always a temporary feeling of pleasure.) Because the Beatles are determined to make meta commentaries on this game, right now, no lie, I’m hearing Lennon’s “I’m a Loser.” Sigh. (Oy, I’d better turn them off before they get to _Happiness is a Warm Gun_.) ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3855 "2012-06-07T01:01:56Z")
_hug_ I don’t think you’ve been that bad 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3856 "2012-06-07T02:35:35Z")
Is it Night? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3857 "2012-06-07T02:37:23Z")
For the past 3 and a half hours, yep. Now we play the waiting game. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3858 "2012-06-07T05:53:41Z")
I slept in very late, and then did some other work before even checking in at SDMB, thus giving Pizza plenty of time to post the _Demise of the Realm_ which he has presumably already composed. … Nothing yet. I’m still allowed to post therefore, and would love to be able to tell Town that you’ve won, you’ve Lynched the Big Bad Scum. Unfortunately it isn’t true. :mad: I am not Phere’s Master, nor his Summoner, nor the Possessor of _Gur Funeq_ (which name I’ve still thinly disguised), nor do I have any idea if these are three different Players. Sorry to divert Town via my true claim. I’d figured I’d be on the Lynching block at some point and would want to come clean then, so better sooner than later. Sorry to all, especially Astral, for losing my temper now and then, and for going Bonzo on the final Days, clueless about who the Great Deceiver might really be. Thanks to Pizza for the very interesting Game. Definitely a Game for the Record Book … though I’m not sure which record. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3859 "2012-06-07T05:54:25Z")
> [@choie](#): > > And bang, there goes the enjoyment and pleasure I’ve felt in the game, especially now, like a popped balloon. (That’s how depression works, as you know. Doesn’t take much to deflate what’s almost always a temporary feeling of pleasure.) Aw, Choie, you’ve brought heaps of good stuff too. I’ve (still) enjoyed a great deal of what you write, the momentum you bring, and the interesting paths your mind takes. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3860 "2012-06-07T06:31:55Z")
(((Hugs))) choie and Tanaer. This game wouldn’t have been the same without both of you in it. I thought we might have had some results by now, I don’t like all this waiting, it’s like being in limbo. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3861 "2012-06-07T14:05:55Z")
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