# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3862 "2012-06-07T14:22:03Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> When does Night start? Is Day over?

Skimming (and Gloating) are Scum tells.

**Vote: Gadarene**

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3863 "2012-06-07T14:25:08Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> When does Night start? Is Day over?

For the past 15 and a half hours, yep. Now we play the waiting game.

… it’s like déjà vu! 😃

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3864 "2012-06-07T15:25:51Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Skimming (and Gloating) are Scum tells.
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> **Vote: Gadarene**

I have a lot of things I could say about the modding of this game. I will content myself by observing that the long stretches of time without any acknowledgment of, for example, end of day (or providing any vote counts at all, etc.), let alone any actual results, betoken a fair amount of lack of respect for the players.

There are nine players left in the game. It CANNOT BE that difficult. To go ~18 hours after the day has ended without even a post that the day has ended is just flat-out ridiculous, and honestly I don’t think I’m ever gonna play in another game with this kind of modding.

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3865 "2012-06-07T15:31:00Z")

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[DEADPLAYER] ATPG went on a trip to somewhere, so that explains his absence. [/DEADPLAYER]

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3866 "2012-06-07T15:41:49Z")

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Oh, come on.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3867 "2012-06-07T15:47:01Z")

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Did Askthepizzaguy know about this upcoming trip when he decided what day the Day ended on?

Did he know prior to boarding the car/bus/train/plane, so that he could pop in the thread and let us know?

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3868 "2012-06-07T15:51:00Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Did Askthepizzaguy know about this upcoming trip when he decided what day the Day ended on?
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> Did he know prior to boarding the car/bus/train/plane, so that he could pop in the thread and let us know?

I would not have a clue. All I know is that he is on a trip.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3869 "2012-06-07T15:52:35Z")

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Those weren’t really directed at you, Visor. Thanks for the info.

They’re kind of a rhetorical way of expressing my frustration.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3870 "2012-06-07T17:43:18Z")

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In the interest of good sportspersonship and to prevent the lynch mob from reaching the absent moderator, I would invite/suggest/urge the summoner aka slimy scum mastermind aka winner of this epic mafia game to invent and post the dusk and end game color with as much spoilered info as possible to help the rest of us make sense of the game.

Thanking you in advance

Guiri

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3871 "2012-06-07T17:45:33Z")

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Actually, let’s make that a petition, digital signatures:

1. Guiri
2. 
3. 
4. 
5. 
6. 
7. 
8.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3872 "2012-06-07T17:51:15Z")

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/signed.

Although Pizza will be sad if we don’t let him write & post his final color for the game.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3873 "2012-06-07T18:01:22Z")

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First, thanks for the hugs **Gadarene** and **Silver Jan**. I’m pretty soured on the game (and this non-reveal ain’t helping) but I do appreciate it anyway.

Second, I think we’re assuming too much here. We don’t know the results of yesterday – and I don’t mean just the lynch, but any actions, including attacks, that may have occured. Even if **septimus** is telling the truth, which AFAIC is a big _if_, there may have been other actions that caught out the baddie (a different person, in other words). Or maybe just killing **septimus** was enough after all to get us beyond LyLo.

And I _do_ think, as hugely freaking frustrating as it is to learn the mod has left town without informing us (but apparently taking the time to inform the dead scum who haunts us from beyond), it is still bad form, not to mention a letdown for both us and **pizzaguy** , to invent an ending just becuase we’re all champing at the bit. Especially if it’s _not_ an ending after all.

Inattentive mod behavior (which for all we know was unavoidable… though his having told **Visor** about it maybe makes that less likely) doesn’t excuse presumptuous player behavior.

**pizzaguy** gave us two and a half months of entertainment, admittedly delayed and acrimonious at times but still, the fruit of his labor. I think we should wait and just hope he returns soon to let us know what’s going on.

IMNSUOPECAO\*, anyway.

- In my not-so-useful or probably even cared-about opinion. What, you haven’t seen that acronym before?

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3874 "2012-06-07T18:28:09Z")

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Editing should be against the rules.

Honestly I do not expect the evil one(s) to do anything in these last hours. Even if she/h

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3875 "2012-06-07T18:31:16Z")

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We’ve been at this this long

Let PizzaMod have his big finish.

I would prefer it that way  
\*\* Vote wait \*\*

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3876 "2012-06-07T18:32:34Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> Editing should be against the rules.
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> Honestly I do not expect the evil one(s) to do anything in these last hours. Even if she/h

Oh, how tempted I was to edit…

As I was writing, even if the bad guy(s) think they’ve won, I doubt they’re 100% sure so I didn’t expect anything useful to come of my petition but it would have been interesting, purely from a “please give me a clue” point of view, to see who signed it…

Well, let’s just sit in silence and wait. Hold hands, anyone?

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3877 "2012-06-07T18:34:17Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> We’ve been at this this long
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> Let PizzaMod have his big finish.
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> I would prefer it that way  
> \*\* Vote wait \*\*

Sure you would, Lady Phere. Meh, you disgust me.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3878 "2012-06-07T18:35:44Z")

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Hey, Silver Jan, let’s drunk post, I’m on the Rioja.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3879 "2012-06-07T18:37:13Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> Hey, Silver Jan, let’s drunk post, I’m on the Rioja.

That sounds like FUN, only I haven’t got a drink 😃

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3880 "2012-06-07T18:38:54Z")

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LightFoot seems like she’s the scum, except (a) I’m still not sure how a lone scum can win today, given the wagons; and (b) I tracked her last Night and she didn’t target anyone. 😕

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3881 "2012-06-07T18:39:35Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> Sure you would, Lady Phere. Meh, you disgust me.

Where in the Hades did that come from?

I was thinking that pizza had a big finish planned and it seems fair that he gets to complete this run.

disgust is a terse word. I haven’t been underhanded a wit .

Did you intend a smiley in there somewhere?  
Your halo is slipping

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