# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3882 "2012-06-07T18:44:03Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> Where in the Hades did that come from?
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> I was thinking that pizza had a big finish planned and it seems fair that he gets to complete this run.
> 
> disgust is a terse word. I haven’t been underhanded a wit .
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> Did you intend a smiley in there somewhere?  
> Your halo is slipping

You take objection to “disgust” but not “Lady Phere”?

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3883 "2012-06-07T18:45:00Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> Editing should be against the rules.

But it ain’t, except in vote posts. So nyeah.

Plus, in this limbo does it really matter who edited what? None of us are saying anything remotely useful, and barely on topic anyway.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3884 "2012-06-07T18:46:19Z")

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There’s a topic? Seems like days since we played.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3885 "2012-06-07T18:47:40Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> You take objection to “disgust” but not “Lady Phere”?

lady Phere is a term “ingame” ( which you invented)  
disqust is more personal.  
Although I do hope it was tongue in cheek

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3886 "2012-06-07T18:51:21Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> LightFoot seems like she’s the scum, except (a) I’m still not sure how a lone scum can win today, given the wagons; and (b) I tracked her last Night and she didn’t target anyone. 😕

I had nothing to do last Night. I was a soldier with out a PM so I assumed they had no night actions

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3887 "2012-06-07T18:58:33Z")

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> [@Silver\_Jan](#):
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> There’s a topic? Seems like days since we played.

21 hours, to be precise. 🙂

I think the [del]cabal[/del] Legion of the Virtuous (thus yclept by me, anyway) has forgotten some secondary targets. Or in other words:

Remember the alternate seeds we planted and the fruit they may yet bear;  
So be not so discouraged, and let us not fall into despair.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3888 "2012-06-07T19:03:51Z")

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Not disparaged, just impatient again.

Have a good day / night, I am off to bed.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3889 "2012-06-07T19:04:23Z")

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I didn’t honestly expect anything to come from that, so it was super easy for me to sign. 😃

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3890 "2012-06-07T19:07:37Z")

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LightFoot: are you about to win?

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3891 "2012-06-07T19:07:43Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> lady Phere is a term “ingame” ( which you invented)  
> disqust is more personal.  
> Although I do hope it was tongue in cheek

Completely game related, I was accusing you of being lady Phere and expressing my disgust at the actions taken by lady Phere, or whoever is controlling lord Phere. I’m sorry if that was not obvious from the context.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3892 "2012-06-07T19:14:33Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> LightFoot: are you about to win?

If Town wins then I win Dead or Alive.

I’m Town never- flirted with the Darker side

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3893 "2012-06-07T19:41:07Z")

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Like Darth Vader I experienced the allure of the _Dark Side_, but like Vader I was fighting for Good in Episode IX. And like Vader I got killed for my trouble. :smack:

Next time we do one of these can’t we get [Intrade.com](http://Intrade.com) or one of the London Sportsbooks to offer odds on Scummitude? At this point, I might try:

septimus: 100 to 1  
LightFoot: 30 to 1  
Silver Jan: 20 to 1  
Guiri: 12 to 1  
Tanaer: 8 to 1  
Inner: 6 to 1  
Gadarene: 5 to 1  
Choie: 7 to 2  
Astral: 5 to 2  
Pizza himself: 1 to 2

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3894 "2012-06-07T19:53:57Z")

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Yikes, I’m most likely to be scum? 😃

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3895 "2012-06-07T19:55:52Z")

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Someone explain odds to me like I’m a third grader.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3896 "2012-06-07T19:59:44Z")

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Don’t forget – that’s a compliment. 😃

Or, if laying odds isn’t so fun, how about a Poll to decide what this Game must resembled. _Tease and Denial_ and the _Milgram Experiment_ have already been mentioned. Other nominations?

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3897 "2012-06-07T20:03:05Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Like Darth Vader I experienced the allure of the _Dark Side_, but like Vader I was fighting for Good in Episode IX. And like Vader I got killed for my trouble. :smack:
> 
> Next time we do one of these can’t we get [Intrade.com](http://Intrade.com) or one of the London Sportsbooks to offer odds on Scummitude? At this point, I might try:
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> septimus: 100 to 1  
> LightFoot: 30 to 1  
> Silver Jan: 20 to 1  
> Guiri: 12 to 1  
> Tanaer: 8 to 1  
> Inner: 6 to 1  
> Gadarene: 5 to 1  
> Choie: 7 to 2  
> Astral: 5 to 2  
> Pizza himself: 1 to 2

I love people putting others at the top of their scum list despite having voted for someone else. What exactly did **Astral** , I, **Gadarene** , **Inner** , **Tanaer** , and **Guiri** do in the past 22 hours to make us seem more scummy than the person you actually voted for – **Silver Jan**?

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3898 "2012-06-07T20:03:15Z")

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Dante’s _The Inferno_ comes to mind. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3899 "2012-06-07T20:03:22Z")

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Worst. explanation of odds. ever.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3900 "2012-06-07T20:04:16Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> I love people putting others at the top of their scum list despite having voted for someone else. What exactly did **Astral** , I, **Gadarene** , **Inner** , **Tanaer** , and **Guiri** do in the past 22 hours to make us seem more scummy than the person you actually voted for – **Silver Jan**?

He’s just having fun with the lull between Day and Night, Choie. Plus, he’s been lynched, so he has no reason to answer that!

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/3901 "2012-06-07T20:04:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Today, 02:55 AM  
> Inner Stickler  
> Someone explain odds to me like I’m a third grader.
> 
> …  
> Unread Today, 02:59 AM  
> septimus  
> Don’t forget – that’s a compliment.

Now you see how slow my typing is. No, I didn’t mean 3rd-grader to be complimentary. :dubious: I was complimenting Astral.

Anyway,  
Inner: 6 to 1  
Means if someone bet $1 on you to be Scum they’d get their $1 back plus $6 if they won; they chance would be 1/7 if the odds were fair…

… (Now watch Inner try to place a $1000 bet on Inner to be Scum. :smack: )

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