# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/541 "2012-04-10T02:08:35Z")
That if we want to know what injured glee, we should look for something that deals 25 HP damage. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/542 "2012-04-10T02:11:29Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > That if we want to know what injured glee, we should look for something that deals 25 HP damage. Wit the different elements having different effects would it be based on the target ( origional one) or the protector’s alignment? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/543 "2012-04-10T02:25:05Z")
That’s a good question. You should ask it of the mod, however. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/544 "2012-04-10T02:28:18Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* gnarly charlie \*\* you’ve stated the obvious > > 13 would be 1/2 of 25 but that tells us what? really? > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > That if we want to know what injured glee, we should look for something that deals 25 HP damage. yes, what **Inner** said. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/545 "2012-04-10T02:30:11Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > yes, what **Inner** said. I was questioning why you didn’t share that conclusion, if indeed that was your point? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/546 "2012-04-10T02:31:10Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > That if we want to know what injured glee, we should look for something that deals 25 HP damage. _innocent whistle_ ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/547 "2012-04-10T02:32:11Z")
is it possible there’s only one scum? of course, that role would have to be fairly powered up. having three extra votes can be one of those. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/548 "2012-04-10T02:33:25Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I was questioning why you didn’t share that conclusion, if indeed that was your point? sorry, i thought it was obvious. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/549 "2012-04-10T02:36:14Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > sorry, i thought it was obvious. In this game- obvious- not so much- ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/550 "2012-04-10T02:42:05Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > This sounds suspiciously like something I’d need to react to. > > Mightn’t you phrase this in the form of a question, bold, and green? 🆒 Oh, since you asked so nicely… \*\*Oh most benevolent Moderator, Was the information imparted in [Post 379](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14947342&postcount=379) meant to be taken as a detailed, chronological summation of the Day’s combat? If so, where does the damage done to Red Skeezix (see [Post 380](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14947358&postcount=380)) fit into the sequence of events? Respectfully yours, SP\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/551 "2012-04-10T02:45:09Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > _innocent whistle_ We get it, you’re nonchalant already! ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/552 "2012-04-10T03:02:00Z")
There is way more information here than I can process. Two things stick out to me: 1. From what Astral has said, it looks like **glee** took half damage from a Soldier attack. He may have absorbed it from protecting someone, or been protected himself. Either way I find it pretty suspicious that someone who voted with no reasoning behind it has strong enough reads to choose to defend someone, or enough supporters to get defended, unless they were Scum. 2. Gadarene, given the confusion around EoD, and lynch reveals in the Little Mermaid, do you think it would be an angleshoot to post what you did as Scum? Another way to ask that is: why did you assume you were dead before the lynch was revealed? You can reply via PM if you want (or Skype), if you want to avoid a whole cross-cultural discussion about what angle-shooting is. To Astral, I was ‘implying’ (actually thinking) that Scum might be communicatiing via PM, and you might be one. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/553 "2012-04-10T03:05:36Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > To Astral, I was ‘implying’ (actually thinking) that Scum might be communicatiing via PM, and you might be one. Yeah, but if I was scum, wouldn’t I have lied to you? I’m not sure what you were hoping my answer would prove. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/554 "2012-04-10T03:08:54Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > You don’t actually need me to verify or disprove this hypothesis as you could ask Glee or guiri if they protected the person above them slated for damage. > > As it stands, I will note that, in point of fact, I’ve already answered this question, you need only do some math. True, I could ask either of them. The reason I asked you is because your action was public (or at least was made so at Dusk), so I wouldn’t be asking you to give away information regarding your action. At least, that’s how it seemed to me at the time. If you feel that answering my question would mean revealing something you would rather keep to yourself, that’s fine by me. I certainly understand not enjoying being pressured into volunteering information. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/555 "2012-04-10T03:19:15Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > 1. Gadarene, given the confusion around EoD, and lynch reveals in the Little Mermaid, do you think it would be an angleshoot to post what you did as Scum? Another way to ask that is: why did you assume you were dead before the lynch was revealed? You can reply via PM if you want (or Skype), if you want to avoid a whole cross-cultural discussion about what angle-shooting is. I didn’t think it was an angle. I’d been gone all weekend and arrived home to find the day over and me leading the vote count by what seemed to be a definitive margin. It was going to be hours until the lynch was revealed and I was itching to post since I hadn’t been able to for a couple of days, so I made my dead post in what I thought was a farewell. I was very careful not to spew anything in the post but my alignment (whereas if I’d been here before the day ended, I probably would have claimed additional details about my role to try and move the wagon off me). Oh, wait – I just saw that I answered a different question than you asked. Yes, it’s my opinion that it would be angleshooting for a Scum to post what I did in my spot. What’s your take on it? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/556 "2012-04-10T03:26:18Z")
Also, I’ve been in contact with an Soldier who I shall not identify, who corroborates certain things about Astral’s Soldier claim but who cautions that Soldiers could be Scum as well as Town. (And before you ask, I’m only provisionally trusting that this unnamed Soldier is town himself.) The Soldier also says that he/she was one of the people who attacked Lord Phere. It is the opinion of the Soldier – and one that I think I share – that to the extent people have day attacks that deal a certain amount of damage (as Astral claims to, and as this Soldier claims to), we would be better off directing our efforts at chipping away at the hit points of Lord Phere rather than lashing out fairly blindly at other players (absent a very strong Scum lean or otherwise strong reason to attack a player, I suppose). The Soldier told me a couple of other things about that role – and I want to clarify at least one with him/her – that I don’t think it’s productive to go into at this time. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/557 "2012-04-10T03:31:30Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Yeah, but if I was scum, wouldn’t I have lied to you? I’m not sure what you were hoping my answer would prove. Wouldn’t prove nything, I was just curious to see how you’d answer. Maybe you’d get flustered, or defensive. > [@Gadarene](#): > > I didn’t think it was an angle. I’d been gone all weekend and arrived home to find the day over and me leading the vote count by what seemed to be a definitive margin. It was going to be hours until the lynch was revealed and I was itching to post since I hadn’t been able to for a couple of days, so I made my dead post in what I thought was a farewell. I was very careful not to spew anything in the post but my alignment (whereas if I’d been here before the day ended, I probably would have claimed additional details about my role to try and move the wagon off me). > > Oh, wait – I just saw that I answered a different question than you asked. Yes, it’s my opinion that it would be angleshooting for a Scum to post what I did in my spot. > > What’s your take on it? My first thought was that it would be angley, but when I thought about it, it’s probably not, since Night talk is allowed. I’m inclined to give you credit for the post, though, but only a bit. Normal Phase is a really devious Scum, by the way, and I wouldn’t clear her lightly at all. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/558 "2012-04-10T03:34:44Z")
I’m back. Went to a rugby game, then internet went walkabout. Thanks for attacking me… 250 HP damage eh? :rolleyes: Anyway, I did attack Lord Shitforbrains. Fortunately for all involved he is too stupid to kill those who attack him. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/559 "2012-04-10T03:34:48Z")
It probably doesn’t hurt to attack the Demon Lord if you aren’t doing anything else, but I doubt it will be effective. The aim of the game seems to me to find the traitor and defeat the Demon that way. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/560 "2012-04-10T03:38:57Z")
No, this is fun. Oh and thanks for saving my ass Inner Stickler. Much appreciated. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=29)