# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/741 "2012-04-11T22:44:31Z")
> [@PetW](#): > > So, what does everyone think of my idea of using a focused group attack as a secondary lynching mechanism? My thinking is that more lynching equals more chances of catching scum, but the only person that weighed in on that idea is **Gadarene** (I think she’s against it…) Am I on ignore or something? ☹ It was discussed at the beginning of night. (not jsut by me, a few people were weighing in) Quoting post for link to where it was talked about: > [@Scathach](#): > > I actually missed that 3 of the Mosier votes were attributed to AskThePizzaGuy. I agree that the traitor seems like the most plausible explanation for that. Seems like we have to have a reasonable buffer of votes on the lynch leader to ensure no lynch shifting by the Demon Lord. > > The extra Mosier and extra Gadarene vote were then presumably the tally affecting power/powers. > > Also, with all the attacks, if we could somehow agree to coordinate them, it could effectively be a second lynch no? Although the lack of accountability in that the attackers names aren’t revealed makes this a bit risky. > > Given that the Demon Lord definitely does lose HP, is it possible that if everyone concentrated their attacks on him, we could “kill” the Demon Lord. If we did, would that result in the loss of the extra votes for the traitor / negate some other power of the traitor? ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/742 "2012-04-11T23:35:33Z")
I’m sorry, didn’t mean to take credit for your idea. I was just hoping for more discussion about it before the end of night ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/743 "2012-04-12T00:07:30Z")
**All actions recorded, no more will be accepted.** I will be able to post the Night results writeup today, and inform each individual affected how they were affected, however sending out new role PMs (updates) will have to be done tomorrow, as I have a long drive ahead of me. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/744 "2012-04-12T00:52:07Z")
[ul] [li] **If you voted last round, or made the attempt, your level increases by one.** [/li][/ul] [ul] [li] **If you switched your character’s class, you should have received an updated role PM. If not, PM me.** [/li][/ul] [ul] [li] **If you lost or gained HP, you got a PM from me informing you of that.** [/li][/ul] [ul] [li] **If you lost or gained items/gold, you got a PM from me informing you of that.** [/li][/ul] [ul] [li] **If you died, you’ve been informed.** [/li][/ul] [ul] [li] **If you performed an action, you were told the result. If not, PM me.** [/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/745 "2012-04-12T01:11:09Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > I actually like the idea, if (a) we could coordinate it well enough; and (b) it doesn’t out which Townies have more powerful attacks (and which can’t attack at all). > > We might be able to do (a), but I’m much less confident about (b). > > I’m a guy, by the way. I like the idea in some ways, but I’m not comfortable with Astral Rejection or Gadarene as players. Even though one of them could be Scum, from the vote flip. I would rather shoot a lurker, who is going to be hard to resolve otherwise. (b) doesn’t seem to apply, because attacker’s names aren’t outed. Re: Red Skeezix, I was going to say to Normal Phase that he haas been a lurker in every game I’ve seen. But he has been Scum every game as well, so that could be a good read. I accept Guiri’s explanation for choosing to defend Inner. BobA sounds like someone who doesn’t want to get caught out in a lie, which seems Scummy or maybe third party. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/746 "2012-04-12T01:15:32Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > I like the idea in some ways, but I’m not comfortable with Astral Rejection or Gadarene **as players.** Even though one of them could be Scum, from the vote flip. I would rather shoot a lurker, who is going to be hard to resolve otherwise. > > (b) doesn’t seem to apply, because attacker’s names aren’t outed. > > Re: Red Skeezix, I was going to say to Normal Phase that he haas been a lurker in every game I’ve seen. But he has been Scum every game as well, so that could be a good read. > > I accept Guiri’s explanation for choosing to defend Inner. BobA sounds like someone who doesn’t want to get caught out in a lie, which seems Scummy or maybe third party. as _targets_, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/747 "2012-04-12T01:27:00Z")
> [@glee](#): > > As I’ve mentioned, I have a Pendant of unknown magic. > So far you’re the only one who’s offered to Identify it. > > I don’t have much gold, but I can protect people. > Are you interested in an exchange of services? quite possibly; PM/email/IM me, your preference, and we’ll see what we can work out. > [@LightFoot](#): > > Interesting > > \*\* fubbleskag \*\* is in a position to find out who has magical items ( well if people tell that is). > Claims to be able to tell you what they do. And gets your gold / services for the privilege. > > I’m a tad wary meself. > > Now, does he hold the item overnight whilst inspecting it? Can he use it while he has it? Are you unable to use it while he has it? > > If he has it and you die, does he get to keep it? > > is it wise to solicit his services in public? yes. yes(1). yes. yes(2). dunno. (1) assuming it’s a item I’m able to use, then potentially I could use it; I won’t, but you only have my word on that. (2) in the unfortunate event of your untimely demise before I’ve returned your item, I would fulfill any pre-discussed wishes regarding the item; again, you’ve only got my word on that. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > I agree with Gadarene about fubbles, though more from instinct/comparison with other Pizza-created roles than by any information I am privy to. > > What say you, fubbles, is it true? And can you be neutral in terms of information, or what else do you have in mind? > [@Gadarene](#): > > I have reason to believe that fubbleskag is neither Town- nor Scum-aligned. fubbles, what say you? You just in it for the gold and the wealth? you’re making the assumption that I can’t be in it for the gold and also be Town- or Scum-aligned, which is incorrect as outlined in **ATPG’s** pre-amble. I’d be interested to hear what reasons you think you have, as I’m sure would everyone else. (kudos to you, btw; I don’t run into many people that correctly use hyphens in that fashion) > [@choie](#): > > I’m kinda surprised that for **fubbleskag** to examine a magic precious, the bearers of said precious have to give it over to him. That seems quite dangerous. What proof is there that he’ll give it back – or that he’ll tell the truth about its origin? no hard proof of either, in terms of game mechanics, but I’ve already come to terms with at least one customer on a method of transfer that has put her mind at ease in this regard. > [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > how do we know if **fubbles** is honest? we don’t. at least initially. it would be bad for business if he was dishonest. when the items are used and the results are not as advertised, there will be unhappy campers. just like any business, unhappy customers will complain and potential customers will be turned off. end of business. maybe even end of **fubbles**. graping mine, for emphasis ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/748 "2012-04-12T01:35:28Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > you’re making the assumption that I can’t be in it for the gold and also be Town- or Scum-aligned, which is incorrect as outlined in **ATPG’s** pre-amble. I’d be interested to hear what reasons you think you have, as I’m sure would everyone else. > > (kudos to you, btw; I don’t run into many people that correctly use hyphens in that fashion) I have information about your special, third party win condition. And thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/749 "2012-04-12T01:37:56Z")
it’s possible that people were guarding other players on Day 1 seemingly at random because doing so helps advance their character experience level and/or helps them fulfill some goal/motivation ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/750 "2012-04-12T01:40:35Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > By the way, I’m assuming anyone who has less than 4 posts in the Night portion of this thread is busy chatting it up on the scum board. since out-of-thread conversing is allowed/encouraged, do we know that they even have a scum board? ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/751 "2012-04-12T01:41:15Z")
Nice try to kill me once again. 😃 Stayin’ Alive! ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/752 "2012-04-12T01:42:54Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > I now have a very strong town lean on choie. This post shows a thought process and an incisiveness about the game so far that I think is extremely tough for a scum to fake. it seems to me that, unprompted as it was, a post like this could very well be construed as an attempt to hype up some town-cred for a scum-buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/753 "2012-04-12T01:46:08Z")
\*It is the **year 10,432…** It is the \*\*sixth night \*\*of the **sixth month**. The sun will rise in several hours. [Hollywood Undead- Been to Hell](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThU1v29dcs4&feature=player_embedded) \*Welcome to a city that’ll bring you to your knees It’ll make you beg for more, until you can’t even breathe Your blindfold is on tight, but you like what you see So follow me into the night, cuz I got just what you need We’re all rollin’ down the boulevard, full of pimps and sharks It’s a motherfuckin’ riot, we’ve been dying to start You better grab a hold cuz now you know you’re falling apart You thought these streets were paved in gold but they’re dirty and dark Been to hell! I can show you the devil! Down you fell Can’t hold yourself together Soul to sell Down here you live forever Welcome to a world where dreams become nightmares! In the belly of the beast, I’m a wolf amongst sheep At the bottom of the hill, but at the top of the street Above the boulevard, schoolyard, victim of deceit And you’re running hard, but this wolf it’s always at your feet Yeah you’ve seen it all before, but the wolf’s outside your door And you’re old enough to run, you ain’t hiding anymore Another victim of the star spangled banner of the street Now you’re in the world of the wolves And we welcome all you sheep You need to wake up and face it So you can taste my reality Now you’re stuck in this place you hate And you came here so happily Then it made you lose your faith And that’s what fucked with your sanity Say goodbye to your soul and say hello to your vanity Hollywood is your friend, and the undead are your family We’ll take you to the edge, and turn your regret into agony And I’ll never let you go, cuz I know you’ll come back to me I’m the reason you came here, I’m the American Tragedy Been to hell! I can show you the devil! Down you fell Can’t hold yourself together Soul to sell Down here you live forever Welcome to a world where dreams become nightmares! \* The Adventurers retreat back to the relative safety of the Fortification. Knowing that they must face The Demon tomorrow, even if they wished to escape, they attempted to find rest. A few vigilant guards kept watch over the others. \*\*Visorslash \*\*was on his way back to his quarters, when he was attacked suddenly and without warning. The blow landed, and knocked Visorslash to the soil, \*\*spilling blood \*\*everywhere. The \*\*frenzied attacker \*\*left quickly. _ **Visorslash takes 100hp damage.** _ \*\*PetW \*\*noticed someone approaching him from behind, and turned to face the intruder. A **powerful beam of magic** shot towards PetW, who instinctively tried to block the attack however he could. Somehow, the beam was completely **deflected**. PetW was still alive, and the intruder seemed to have vanished.\*\*\* PetW takes no damage.\*\* \* \*\*GuiriEnEspana \*\*felt a **warm glow** of light surround his body. In a matter of minutes, he felt better than he was before. _ **GuiriEnEspana recovers 50hp.** _ \*\*Glee \*\*was sleeping soundly, when suddenly, an explosive force knocked the roof and walls completely off of his quarters, and blasted Glee completely out of his bedding. He looked up and saw the terrifying **Demon Lord** … somehow, the creature had managed to sneak inside the Fortification! \*\*\*\*"COWER BEFORE ME, WRETCHED ONE!!! YOUR FEAR IS JUSTIFIED, FOR DEATH AWAITS YOU… WITH BIG, NASTY, SHARP, POINTY CLAWS!!! Now FIGHT ME, or DIE like a coward!"\*\*\*\* \* \ ***The Demon Lord swings a massive blade, obliterating the bed and sending shattered pieces of the floor everywhere.** \*\*Glee \*\*is cornered, and has no choice but to fight. He wields his spear, and charges at the Demon Lord. \*\*The Demon Lord swings his blade again, shattering the spear, and breaking every bone in Glee’s arms. \*\* The mortally wounded Glee is sent flying into the inner walls of the Fortification. **“Foolish bug. You go squish now!”** \*[SIZE=7]_CRUNCH_ \*\* Glee was slain in battle.\*\*\* **Inner Stickler** hears the massive booming noises, and rises from his bed. He witnesses the final moments of Glee’s life, and looks up… and up… and up… and sees the **Demon Lord** standing before him. **“It’s always darkest before the dawn… but, it’s even darker before your DEATH!”** Inner Stickler finds himself gripped by overwhelming **darkness** … and cold… The sound of demons drowns out every single thought in his mind. A \*\*cold oblivion \*\*surrounds Inner Stickler… **madness… blindness… and fear.** The **insane nothing** consumes Inner Stickler, until nothing remains of him. \ ***Inner Stickler was slain by magic.** **The Aftermath:** Upon inspection of his remains, they noticed that \*\*Glee \*\*seemed to be dressed like an ordinary **Soldier** , and there was nothing sinister about him. Reluctantly, they were forced to conclude that a **Good** Adventurer was slain. There was nothing left of **Inner Stickler** , so they searched his quarters, or what was left of them. Upon inspection of his journal, they concluded that Inner Stickler was an ordinary **Soldier** , and there was nothing sinister about him. Another \*\*Good \*\*Adventurer was slain. Upon **Mosier** ’s body, they found an **Emerald Ring.** Upon **Glee** ’s body, they found a **Blue Pendant.** Inside **Inner Stickler** ’s quarters, they found a **Sapphire Ring.** **Vote for the Blue Pendant like this-** **Pendant: Player name** **Vote for the Sapphire Ring** [/SIZE]\*\* like this-\*\* **Sapphire: Player name** **Vote for the Emerald Ring** \*\* like this-\*\* **Emerald: Player name** **Unvote an item like this:** **Unvote: Emerald Unvote: Pendant Unvote: Sapphire** Please use Purple so I can easily track this. [SIZE=5]DAY BEGINS: As day dawns, the survivors discuss the possibility of simply trying to escape. Their leader, King Askthepizzaguy, was gone, and replaced by a horrible monster, and they were no match for Lord Phere. However, they looked over to the horizon and saw the Demon Lord **casting a powerful spell.** The valley, the mountains, and the sea itself began to disappear from sight… the ground broke apart and dissolved all around them, until only the sun in the sky, and the Fortification, and the nearby Town, remained. It had to be an illusion, but nonetheless, there was going to be **no escape** from this place… Lord Phere would see to that. [/SIZE][SIZE=6]Begin “The Second BATTLE”[/SIZE]\* _(Day Two)_ \*\*\*[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Green]OOC: Day Two[/COLOR] has begun. You may vote and discuss your situation. You may Askthepizzaguy any game-related questions you might have, please bold and green if you wish the response to be OOC and from the game host. Otherwise, just speak ITS name and you shall have your answer… Day Two will end on Monday, 17:00 (5:00PM) Eastern Time (GMT-05:00, US & Canada), April 16th 2012.\*\*[/COLOR] We will be lengthening the phases, days and nights, until we reach a schedule where the Days begin and end during the weekday period, then revert back to one week for both day and night phases together. **Still able to fight:** 1. Mahaloth 2. Believerer 3. Suburban Plankton - 1. Scathach 2. Fubbleskag 3. Weedy 4. Gadarene 5. PetW 6. Astral Rejection 7. gnarlycharlie 8. NAF1138 9. septimus 10. GuiriEnEspana - 1. Lightfoot 2. Silver Jan 3. choie 4. BobArrgh 5. Tanaer 6. Red Skeezix 7. Normal Phase 8. MHaye 9. RealityTrip 10. Lilflower - 1. Visorslash 2. storyteller0910 3. ToeJam 4. Askthepizzaguy **Not in any condition to fight:** [Dead] 1. Mosier- **Soldier [Good]** 2. Inner Stickler- **Soldier [Good]** 3. glee- **Soldier [Good]** ROUND OVER SUMMARY: \*\* Visorslash takes 100hp damage. [COLOR=Green] GuiriEnEspana recovers 50hp. Glee is slain by Demon Lord Phere Inner Stickler is slain by Demon Lord Phere [COLOR=Black]Drain Bead is replaced by Believerer [SIZE=2]Updates to your role PMs will happen tomorrow, hopefully. 🙂 Good luck… [/COLOR]\*\*[/COLOR][/SIZE] ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/754 "2012-04-12T01:46:22Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > it seems to me that, unprompted as it was, a post like this could very well be construed as an attempt to hype up some town-cred for a scum-buddy. I didn’t find tht post particularly Townie, either. ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/755 "2012-04-12T01:47:29Z")
By the way, I’d be cautious about giving away any items. One thi.g we can expect in this game is unexpected twists: for all we know fubbleskag could be booby trapping our items. It doesn’t really make sense to me if someone would be in it simply for the gold, or what that character may be able to do with that gold. Fubbleskag or Gadarene, care to enlighten the rest of us? ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/756 "2012-04-12T01:47:29Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > OOG Mr SJ is doing fine, just a bit uncomfortable with having a portable drip /OOG glad to hear it! ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/757 "2012-04-12T01:52:42Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > I have information about your special, third party win condition. > > And thanks. 🙂 this should be good. let’s hear it, then. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/758 "2012-04-12T02:01:28Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > it seems to me that, unprompted as it was, a post like this could very well be construed as an attempt to hype up some town-cred for a scum-buddy. Could be, I guess. It wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/759 "2012-04-12T02:03:54Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > I didn’t find tht post particularly Townie, either. On my part? 😕 Really? Seemed like standard POG stuff. What about it didn’t you like? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/760 "2012-04-12T02:05:21Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > this should be good. let’s hear it, then. First, to be clear: are you denying that you are a Third Party? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=39)