# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/761 "2012-04-12T02:06:21Z")

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So since both Inner and Glee were “slain by Demon Lord Phere,” does that maybe suggest that we _should_ be attacking him, if he is the focal point of the attacks against us?

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/762 "2012-04-12T02:09:01Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> First, to be clear: are you denying that you are a Third Party?

you started us down this path; I’m not confirming or denying anything until you share you supposed knowledge about my character.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/763 "2012-04-12T02:10:15Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> So since both Inner and Glee were “slain by Demon Lord Phere,” does that maybe suggest that we _should_ be attacking him, if he is the focal point of the attacks against us?

I’m guessing that **Lord Phere** is controlled by scum to enact their night kill, or kills as it would seem to be

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**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/764 "2012-04-12T02:11:31Z")

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What a lousy Night.

**Pendant: BobArrgh**

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/765 "2012-04-12T02:11:37Z")

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bedtime here. might be able to squeeze in a read/post in the morning ~ 7am ET

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**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/766 "2012-04-12T02:12:42Z")

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> [@fubbleskag](#):
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> I’m guessing that **Lord Phere** is controlled by scum to enact their night kill, or kills as it would seem to be

That’s my take on it, too.

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/767 "2012-04-12T02:13:24Z")

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And Askthepizzaguy repeatedly said that the game can still be won if all the attacking type stuff is ignored, so obviously it’s not vital to kill the demon (if it’s even possible)

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/768 "2012-04-12T02:15:18Z")

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**Ring: PetW** - Please? It really brings out the color in my eyes.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/769 "2012-04-12T02:15:21Z")

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> [@BobArrgh](#):
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> What a lousy Night.
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> **Pendant: BobArrgh**

**are we allowed to vote for ourselves? are we allowed to vote on more than one item?**

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/770 "2012-04-12T02:17:35Z")

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I would assume yes you can vote to yourself and yes you can vote on every item.

That said, all items to me.

I would vote them to Stickler, but he’s dead. ☹

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/771 "2012-04-12T02:19:31Z")

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**Bah, forgot bolding. Unvote; Vote: All items to me.**

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/772 "2012-04-12T02:22:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Last edited by PetW; Today at 10:19 PM. Reason: ETA fixed formatting

it was nice knowing you.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/773 "2012-04-12T02:31:17Z")

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> [@fubbleskag](#):
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> you started us down this path; I’m not confirming or denying anything until you share you supposed knowledge about my character.

I know that a Third Party win condition in this game is to amass wealth. That seems to fit in with your overriding motivation so far.

I ask again: are you Third Party?

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/774 "2012-04-12T02:31:19Z")

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> [@fubbleskag](#):
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> it seems to me that, unprompted as it was, a post like this could very well be construed as an attempt to hype up some town-cred for a scum-buddy.

Personally I found it decidedly snuggly, but it’s hard not to appreciate flattery – even with ulterior motives.

As far as the Night’s actions go… okay, so we know a player tried to take **Visorslash** out, whereas the Demon killed **glee** and **Inner Stickler**. I’d been leaning scum on **glee** for some reason–I guess the protection withouth specific reason given by **BobArrgh** made me doubt him–so now I’m sorry to see him go. Meanwhile, I’ve been determined to give **Inner** the benefit of the doubt, as opposed to my past games, and for once I was correct. Yet again a well-meaning **Inner** is blown to smithereens. Sigh. On the plus side, we seem to have proof that there’s a healer in our midst!

I, er, take it **Guiri** _was_ healed by someone else, rather than his own powers, though I guess there’s no way of knowing either way. True or not, it’s a relief that we have someone with that kind of power…or maybe more than one?

Well, as I said, it’s reassuring to know that we don’t just have protective powers (which can apparently be brushed passed by Phere) but curative powers, too. All that said, though, I’m very curious to know if anyone will claim to have protected anyone this time around. Sad that our previous Night’s revelations re: who protected whom seems to have scared everyone off from **Inner** and **glee** –and I wonder if it’s a coincidence that Phere went after them, when the previous Night these two who had been protected.

Maybe he (the demon) figured out that **Guiri** and **Bob** weren’t planning on repeating their protections, especially since the protecting action is being publicized. Everyone’s clearly now afraid of having our actions revealed!

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/775 "2012-04-12T02:31:22Z")

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\*\* RE: the bidding process. Should there be an amount included? other than just the item and name?  
If not what is the reserve on these items? \*\*

I don’t care to bid if I don’t know how much I am bidding

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/776 "2012-04-12T02:34:56Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> I know that a Third Party win condition in this game is to amass wealth. That seems to fit in with your overriding motivation so far.
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> I ask again: are you Third Party?

I am decidedly not a 3rd party. I am, however, very curious to know how you know of this win condition - as I’m sure the rest of town is as well.

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/777 "2012-04-12T02:35:04Z")

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**Unvote; Vote: Sapphire ring to Fubbleskag**

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/778 "2012-04-12T02:37:36Z")

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Vote: Emerald ring to Visorslash

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/779 "2012-04-12T02:38:38Z")

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goddamnit.  
**Vote: Emerald ring to Visorslash**

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/780 "2012-04-12T02:38:51Z")

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> [@BobArrgh](#):
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> That’s my take on it, too.

I would third this, but you know what they say…

- I don’t follow the church of the third vote \* so yes I will agree

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