# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/61 "2012-04-05T22:31:25Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > It’s like you understood what I said- it was bound to happen sooner or later. [grin] > > The players that are into the D&D realm of things may have an advanced experience, but those who don’t can treat this like any game with a few ‘extra bits’ > that may/should make more sense as the game rolls Don’t feel bad. I have plenty of D&D experience, and I’m totally lost as to how it’s all supposed to play out in this game. I plan on doing like Inner Stickler mentioned; I plan to play Mafia, and I’ll worry about the D&D-related aspects when and if they become obvious and/or relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/62 "2012-04-05T22:32:26Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > My early D1 intuition tells me to > > **Vote Astral Rejection** \*Somebody’s \*looking to level up fast 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/63 "2012-04-05T22:59:35Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I am here. Don’t lynch me! If you insist. [color] **vote: Mosier** [/color] Oh wait, did I get that wrong? 😃 It’s serious enough for government work, though. If you must ascribe a motive to the vote, call it a bit of wondering whether “OMG IT"S MY FIRST GAME AND I"M MAFIA” nerves could inspire such a statement. I’m probably going to miss most of this first day, given the timing. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/64 "2012-04-05T22:59:38Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > My early D1 intuition tells me to > > **Vote Astral Rejection** > > This post just screams scum:The housekeeping, the apologetic tone, a little joke. For someone who ran the other D&D related mafia game, he’s got very little to say. I just wanted to make a cheese pun. 😃 It should be obvious that this is a far more complex DND game than mine, and as I admitted over and over in my own game, I know exactly zero about DND. I’m not sure what kind of additional insight you’re expecting from me on Night 0. I do have one question regarding your vote: you realize the “apologetic tone” was set-up for the cheese pun, right? Not two separate things? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/65 "2012-04-05T23:00:42Z")
Oh, for Pete’s sake. Twiddling thumbs for 60 seconds … … **vote: Mosier** ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/66 "2012-04-05T23:11:49Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Oh, for Pete’s sake. > > Twiddling thumbs for 60 seconds … The important thing is that you tried your hardest. 🙂 Jokes aside, there are two mechanics I’d like to discuss. I believe resurrection is a possibility in this game, given how explicitly our host has reminded us that dead people cannot post or vote. That being said, I think that indicates that reveals will be delayed in some way. Anybody else get the same feeling? ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/67 "2012-04-05T23:13:07Z")
The [**Demon**](http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/MafiaIMGS/DemonLord-Phere.jpg) [**Lord**](http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/MafiaIMGS/DemonLord-Phere.jpg) speaks… * * * "What are these writhing maggots I see before me, not fleeing in terror? Sitting around talking calmly, as if nothing horrendous were about to happen to them… They must not value their pitiful, insignificant lives, or they must not be sentient. It matters not, for they shall all die. Slowly… painfully." [SIZE=1][COLOR=Black]-IC-\*\*[/COLOR][/SIZE]\* ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/68 "2012-04-05T23:13:11Z")
Holy cow, there’s a lot to take in. I’m with the “just gonna play Mafia” crowd for now; the extra D&D stuff makes me want to crawl under a bed and hug my security blanket. I genuinely can’t tell if **Guiri** ’s vote is in jest or not. I mean intuition’s all we’ve got for now, so anyone voting early is probably always going to base their votes on intuition. At least it gives us something to talk about. With so many players, does anyone want to guess how many are likely to be Scum? Anyway, I promised myself I was gonna do this the instant Day started and voting was allowed, so here goes: **vote septimus**. Just _because_, damnit. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/69 "2012-04-05T23:22:54Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > The important thing is that you tried your hardest. 🙂 > > Jokes aside, there are two mechanics I’d like to discuss. I believe resurrection is a possibility in this game, given how explicitly our host has reminded us that dead people cannot post or vote. That being said, I think that indicates that reveals will be delayed in some way. > > Anybody else get the same feeling? Heck if I know. Ask me next Tuesday when I have brain cells to spare. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/70 "2012-04-05T23:24:23Z")
**Vote: Renata** I’ll start with her first. Then the rest of you. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/71 "2012-04-05T23:26:00Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > The [**Demon**](http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/MafiaIMGS/DemonLord-Phere.jpg) [**Lord**](http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/MafiaIMGS/DemonLord-Phere.jpg) speaks… > > * * * > > "What are these writhing maggots I see before me, not fleeing in terror? Sitting around talking calmly, as if nothing horrendous were about to happen to them…[SIZE=1][COLOR=Black]-IC-\*\*[/COLOR][/SIZE]\* Shush, grown ups are talking. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/72 "2012-04-05T23:29:37Z")
It talks in red italics. How tacky. I bet it buys its flails at DemonMart, too. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/73 "2012-04-05T23:32:02Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Shush, grown ups are talking. 😃 \*\*\* “Grown!?! If this is as large as you grow, then one wonders why you pathetic insects bother speaking at all. After I crush you and rip out your throat, you needn’t bother polluting the air with the annoying high-pitched whine of your tiny vocal cords.” [SIZE=1][COLOR=Black]-IC-\*\*[/COLOR][/SIZE]\* ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/74 "2012-04-05T23:32:16Z")
I’m here. Busy as heck for our first Day, though. I got the norovirus and am still not 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/75 "2012-04-05T23:33:59Z")
**Attack: Askthepizzaguy** ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/76 "2012-04-05T23:34:41Z")
Sorry to hear, Drain Bead. Been there, done that, got the puke bucket. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/77 "2012-04-05T23:37:51Z")
> [@choie](#): > > With so many players, does anyone want to guess how many are likely to be Scum? > . The game master made several references to a singular traitor, which I bet is misdirection. My guess is “more than one.” I’m withholding my vote for now. But I have my eye on you! ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/78 "2012-04-05T23:40:58Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Holy cow, there’s a lot to take in. I’m with the “just gonna play Mafia” crowd for now; the extra D&D stuff makes me want to crawl under a bed and hug my security blanket. > > I genuinely can’t tell if **Guiri** ’s vote is in jest or not. I mean intuition’s all we’ve got for now, so anyone voting early is probably always going to base their votes on intuition. At least it gives us something to talk about. > > With so many players, does anyone want to guess how many are likely to be Scum? > > Anyway, I promised myself I was gonna do this the instant Day started and voting was allowed, so here goes: > > **vote septimus**. Just _because_, damnit. **Vote Choie.** There is no indication whatsoever that Guiri is joking about that vote. Guiri’s clarification– > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > It’s intuition based on the post from the player. –also does not indicate any jest. To answer your question: a good starting point for guessing scum is 1/4th of the total pool of players. Depending on town powers, third parties, and other things, that number _could_ go up or down. Why Septimus, besides “just cuz”? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/79 "2012-04-05T23:42:34Z")
Oops, forgot to explain why I found that scummy: Choie’s odd misrepresentation of Guiri’s vote, coupled with explaining to us that we don’t have any facts yet, seems off to me. Worthy of a day 1 Day 1 vote! ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/80 "2012-04-05T23:43:22Z")
Because septimus has been scum in at least two of choie’s previous mafia games. If Mhaye were here, he’d tell you that grudges are bad, choie. On the other hand, I’m perfectly happy lynching Mahaloth on the first day as a general rule so who am I to talk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=5)