# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1061 "2012-04-13T15:44:54Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Saint Louis, Missouri. Just as I thought…and everyone knows that St. Louis is entirely peopled with [criminals](http://www.civilwarstlouis.com/gratiot/gratiot.htm), so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1062 "2012-04-13T15:45:44Z")
CONGRATS! 😃 I hope Pizza has another sub, but this is certainly a worthy cause. Enjoy yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1063 "2012-04-13T15:46:31Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I see **Visorslash** is still being very abrasive! I do wish he would at least try and make a case against\*\* Gad\*\* instead of just baiting him. \*\*Visorslash \*\*originally voted for \*\*Gadarene \*\*towards the end of Day 1 purely as a self preservation measure. > [@Visorslash](#): > > **Unvote; Vote: Gadarene** > > Simple survival. Since then he;s mentioned Gadarene’s ‘farewell post’ just after EoD and his “reactions to questioning” as reasons for thinking Gad is Scum. When pressed for more detailed reasoning, he’s replied > [@Visorslash](#): > > Gadarene, basically, you overreacted and said some scummy things which I don’t care to analyse as I need sleep. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe. > [@Visorslash](#): > > I said LATER. Let me enjoy the remnants of my life. and finally > [@Visorslash](#): > > I have provided some thought process and opinions, and my reasons are similar to others that want you dead. > > So there. So apparently Visorslash wants Gadarene dead because Gad is Scum. I cannot fight no more against such genius. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1064 "2012-04-13T16:05:12Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Are you saying you’re too busy to play? 🙂 > > Congrats on the new baby! Too busy for this game, which is a shame. I was(am) super pumped about it. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1065 "2012-04-13T17:06:44Z")
I’ll play for you, **Mahaloth** , just forward me your Role PM. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1066 "2012-04-13T17:14:32Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’ve requested to be subbed out, folks. > > Korea trip + new Mahalothbaby + return home + crazy cool mafia game = too much for me. > > Sorry, folks. > > If subs aren’t allowed, I’ll give it my best shot. Congratulations!!! You will be missed here though. I hope you don’t have too many sleepless nights. My guests left earlier than expected and I haven’t had a vat of wine yet so I am back. I am so tempted to vote for **Visorslash** again, he really wants\*\* Gaderene\*\* dead and I don’t find\*\* Gad\*\* scummy at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1067 "2012-04-13T18:05:24Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > I’ll play for you, **Mahaloth** , just forward me your Role PM. I’ll let pizza handle everything. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1068 "2012-04-13T18:21:03Z")
I feel as if we’re playing Party Quirks and **fubbles** ’ quirk is “thinks he’s at a garage sale desperate to make a deal, any deal.” I’m still sticking on him, but my trigger finger is _itching_ to get rid of **Visorslash**. (Now he’ll say ‘I don’t give a flying fuck at a rolling donut’ or some other charming riposte.) Actually he’s so very obnoxious he almost _has_ to be Town… either that or it’s a brilliant double- or triple-bluff. And now to _truly_ important stuff: best wishes and congrats to you, **Mahaloth**. I didn’t realize you had such a very good reason for being away. Mazeltov to you and your (increasing) family! ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1069 "2012-04-13T18:23:43Z")
Oh I forgot to ask: > [@Gadarene](#): > > Give actual reasons, or go jump off a cake. Jump off a _cake_? 🙂 Is this a new idiom or a typo? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1070 "2012-04-13T18:29:11Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Oh I forgot to ask: > > Jump off a _cake_? 🙂 Is this a new idiom or a typo? I try to use creative insults when I get mad in Mafia games. It defuses the situation (and my temper) a little. 🙂 Next time might be go climb a monkey or go lick an avocado or what-have-you. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1071 "2012-04-13T19:32:17Z")
Honestly,\*\* Visor \*\*is not playing the game. He wants \*\*Gad \*\*gone for no reason that I can see. If it turns out that **Visor** is Town well… he’s not helping Town at all. **Vote Visorslash** ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1072 "2012-04-13T19:54:45Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Too busy for this game, which is a shame. I was(am) super pumped about it. Congratulations, **Mahaloth** , and it’s been a pleasure playing with you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1073 "2012-04-13T20:04:44Z")
Then vig him if you must, Silver Jan, he’s already got a ton of damage. Lynching him is a waste of effort under the circumstances even if he is scum, and his behavior is making the votes against him almost impossible to read. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1074 "2012-04-13T20:13:06Z")
I’m catching up after a laggy couple of days. Need to read and reread about 8 pages, so don’t hold your breath. But… > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > so don’t be all rules-lawyery on me regarding this. My judgment is final! My word is Law! Etc. So you’re Lawful. Got it. That means Phere should be a _ **Devil** _ - they’re the LE fiends. Not a Demon at all. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1075 "2012-04-13T20:19:06Z")
**Pizza, can we have a vote count when you get the chance?** ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1076 "2012-04-13T20:27:49Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I had no read on BobAaarghh and attacked him just to see what would happen. I meant to ask you earlier, did you have information about Bob’s hit points, were you concerned he might die in the attack? Why not MHaye? Why not see what would happen defending? ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1077 "2012-04-13T21:03:23Z")
\*\*Is there a possibility of Recruitment in this game? \*\* I feel this is a fairly fundamental Question and one that changes the way I view Mafia games (And is often a factor in the games I join, as I tend to really hate playing in Recruitment+ games). That said- what say you, **Pizza**. Should we as players be concerned about the possibility of Recruitment (By which i mean: NOT a natural/willing shifts/alignment changes made by a player- but the active possibility of a forced change in status)? ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1078 "2012-04-13T21:10:59Z")
Vote Count: I hope I did this correctly. I have to say that _many_ of you who should know better having played in several SDMB games (glaring at **Silver Jan, Normal Phase** ) are not bleaching earlier votes, or are using blue for unvoting, etc. I know **Askthepizzaguy** didn’t give it as a rule, but this kinda stuff made things much harder for vote tracking. Anyway: **Astral Rejection** (4) - **Askthepizzaguy, Askthepizzaguy, Askthepizzaguy** (1027), **Normal Phase** (1035) **Gadarene** (3) - **Suburban Plankton** (813), **Visorslash** (824), **fubbleskag** (967) **fubbleskag** (2) - **choie** (811), **ToeJam** (977) **MHaye** (2) - **Astral Rejection** (814), **Normal Phase** (825, [del]838[/del], 904, [del]1035[/del]), **Weedy** (1040) **Weedy** (2) - Red Skeezix (995), **gnarlycharlie** (1041) **Visorslash** (2) - **Gadarene** (1052), **Silver Jan** (1071) Abstain (1) - **NAF1138** (844) Present (1) - **septimus** (870) **PetW** (0) - **Normal Phase** (838, [del]838[/del]), **Gadarene** (871, [del]1052[/del]), **gnarlycharlie** (886, [del]1024[/del]), **Silver Jan** (902, [del]1038[/del]), **Red Skeezix** (964, [del]995[/del]) **septimus** (0) - **ToeJam** (932, [del]977[/del]) **GuiriEnEspana** (0) - **Askthepizzaguy, Askthepizzaguy, Askthepizzaguy** (955, [del]1027[/del]) Note: I didn’t include anyone who never had a vote on him/her. * * * Whew. If someone beats me to this I’m gonna cry. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1079 "2012-04-13T21:12:53Z")
Also, **Normal** ’s vote record cracked me up. Pick a horse, lady! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1080 "2012-04-13T21:13:18Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Speaking of which, forgive me for my craptastic memory, but **Guiri** , did you ever mention why you protected **Inner Stickler**? Wonders why I protected Inner. > [@choie](#): > > I’m with **Weedy** and **LightFoot**. I’m fascinated by the dynamics here, especially the **Inner** / **Visorslash** / **Guiri** triad of protection. I mean I can basically buy **Inner Stickler** ’s explanations, because **Visorslash** was (briefly) in the spotlight. But **Guiri** protecting **Inner** is beyond me, and ditto **Bob** protecting **glee**. What do they know about each other?! Pure chance or some kind of coalition?origin? Cannot imagine why someone would decide to protect Inner. > [@choie](#): > > As **Inner Stickler** basically said after he risked his neck for you: _Earn this!_ The demon (or someone) seems to be against you. Be worthy of **Inner** ’s sacrifice and start helping Town… if you _are_ Town. But no “if” about Inner being Town? > [@choie](#): > > If you don’t want Town to win, I hope next time **Inner** saves his energy for someone worth it. Seems to imply a town Inner. > [@choie](#): > > Meanwhile, I’ve been determined to give **Inner** the benefit of the doubt, as opposed to my past games, and for once I was correct. Yet again a well-meaning **Inner** is blown to smithereens. Sigh. On the plus side, we seem to have proof that there’s a healer in our midst! Of course, she was right all along. Choie, your suspicion about my protection doesn’t sit with your own claimed opinion of Inner, why were you so confused/curious? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=55)