# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1501 "2012-04-17T13:03:30Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> I have the sudden uncomfortable feeling that I have a target on my butt. Amazing how easy it is to forget about that in the heat of battle.

Scum gloooooooaaaaaaating?

😃

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1502 "2012-04-17T13:14:12Z")

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You’re such a bastard, Astral.

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**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1503 "2012-04-17T13:17:56Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Since I asked Gadarene for his thoughts on the vote leaders, I should probably share my own:
> 
> \*\*Weedy \*\*- I don’t see anything terribly suspicious. He does seem to have latched on to \*\*MHaye \*\*for what seems to be fairly thin reasoning, but there is reasoning there. I was a bit bothered by his sudden switch to \*\*Astral \*\*(which didn’t count because he neglected to unvote MHaye); combined with his “probably won’t be back before EoD” statement it looks like he just wanted to be in on the ‘winning’ bandwagon. Of course, he later returned and “revoted” MHaye…I’m not sure exactly what to make of that.

It means I would have preferred an MHaye lynch over an Astral lynch, but an Astral lynch over a demon-selected one.

And that I’m not used to unvoting, and I forgot.

I live in Australia, and EOD is early in the morning, so I will usually be voting before I go to bed, unless I wake up really early (but Tanaer explained this. Thanks, Tanaer).

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1504 "2012-04-17T13:21:37Z")

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still no results? first, most thought of us that EOD was earlier than it actually was and now were still at Dusk. it’s just prolonging our agony. 😃

> [@MHaye](#):
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> Gnarly’s is a pressure vote because the first sentence might be PIS, ignoring the rest of the post. That’s a slippery reason for a third vote. When I’ve done the reread, Gnarly will be my first candidate for close examination. That’s subject to nothing arising later in the Day. (PetW is second right now.)

so would my reason be good for a first vote? second? fifth? furthermore, do you find a third vote more relevant than other votes? do you subscribe to the theory that the third vote on a player is likelier to be from scum?

do you want me to guess what you’ll find when examine me? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1505 "2012-04-17T13:38:59Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> I’ve had to speed up a lot to ensure I get through all the Day 2 posts before Dusk But, _en passsant_: -I really doubt this.
> 
> Firstly the hue of my item doesn’t match my alignment, and secondly it’s a Day action to change alignment - just PM ATPG and he’ll do it for you no questions asked.

oh you magic types!  
We fighters don’t get it as an option and I didn’t know other people did til quite recently.

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**Author:** ![Tanaer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tanaer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaer)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1506 "2012-04-17T13:40:19Z")

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> [@Tanaer](#):
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> oh you magic types!  
> We fighters don’t get it as an option and I didn’t know other people did til quite recently.

Actually now I think about it, I haven’t checked in with other fighter types, but lowly soldier me certainly doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1507 "2012-04-17T13:52:27Z")

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I can’t. Which is a shame. I’d change my element to “holy.” Phere couldn’t touch me then! I’d be… _unlynchable._

And Normal, you should work on your people skills. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1508 "2012-04-17T13:52:33Z")

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Did you ask?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1509 "2012-04-17T13:54:57Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> I can’t. Which is a shame. I’d change my element to “holy.” Phere couldn’t touch me then! I’d be… _unlynchable._
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> And Normal, you should work on your people skills. 🙂

Hehe.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1510 "2012-04-17T14:09:35Z")

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Unlynchable, Astral?

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1511 "2012-04-17T14:21:05Z")

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@ Normal Phase

In regards to your transparent comment. I had nothing to hide then, I was under protection, etc.

Then again, I’m rarely, if ever scum. So it’s not surprising that you would never see it.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1512 "2012-04-17T14:22:09Z")

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Cuz, you see, he’s a _demon,_ and, and, I’d be _holy_, so, like…

Bah! It’s not funny anymore when you have to explain it! 😃

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1513 "2012-04-17T14:24:06Z")

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> [@Visorslash](#):
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> Then again, I’m rarely, if ever scum.

High-five! I’m rarely scum too. I was scum my first two games of mafia, and I haven’t been scum since.

Which is a shame. Being scum is fun. I’m missing half the game!

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1514 "2012-04-17T14:31:56Z")

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I’m so freakin paranoid I have you penciled in right now as an unlynchable godfather who’s just toying with us.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1515 "2012-04-17T14:36:06Z")

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Patience is a virtue.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1516 "2012-04-17T14:44:19Z")

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Ok, now with actual sleep in me, let’s see what the tally was for the lynch and the items.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1517 "2012-04-17T14:56:07Z")

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So…demons need sleep.

Good to know.

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**Author:** ![Believerer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@Believerer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Believerer)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1518 "2012-04-17T15:28:56Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> I’d like to hear something from **Drain Bead** ’s sub **Believerer**.

👋

I’m getting into it, I promise! You’ll have a better post from me later today. (Remember I’m on GMT+1)

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1519 "2012-04-17T16:05:39Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Does anyone recall the tiebreaker rules for this game? I could have sworn they were the standard “first person to reach the tied number of votes is lynched”, but I can’t seem to find that in the rules now.
> 
> Also, I wonder how the ‘hidden votes’ are counted. Assuming they are the result of players with a ‘double-voting’ ability, would they take effect for vote-counting purposes at the End of Day, or as of the post in which the person publicly voted?
> 
> **Pizza, in case you see this in the next 7 minutes, can you answer the question posed in the paragraph above?**

Double-voters take effect at the same time they vote, but won’t be shown in the tally until EOD.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1520 "2012-04-17T16:07:20Z")

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**Should I count obvious attempts at voting that were unfortunately not bolded?**

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